My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

[Damage3245]

Nvm just realized Gigantomachia wasn’t demoralized; he was given morale so strong he could overpower Mount Lady with ease

Means I can use 343 m/s for speed instead of 34.3 , since Gigantomachia is almost as fast as Gran Torino who can outspeed his own voice

From the Calc Stacking page:

Hiding calculations is the practice of trying to avoid calculating a feat in order to be able to use the result in another calculation. In other words it is the practice of trying to fool people into not noticing that calc stacking is being used.

This usually occurs if a feat is quantified per a rule of thumb instead of precisely calculated. A typical example would be a character dodging a bullet from a short distance being ranked as "Supersonic" and then using that ranking to calculate the speed of another character, whose speed one can compare to the former in some feat.

 

[SuperStar]

Bakugo also can’t use Cluster instantly he seems to need to build it up a bit.

Once he warms up, I think he can use cluster like his regular explosions.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

From the Calc Stacking page:

How is this hiding calc stacking? The feat isn’t even animated; it’s impossible to calc Gigantomachia’s speed in the scene since there isn’t a timeframe or anything

And I’m not using logic that comes from calculations; these are objective things that occur. Gran Torino can move faster than his own voice. That doesn’t need a calc, it’s blatantly Supersonic. Same with Endeavor generating sonic booms.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

@Damage3245 IF you have the time to can you look at this?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ative_Bewegung:_Himmelsdurchdringende_Eiswand

 

[Damage3245]

How is this hiding calc stacking? The feat isn’t even animated; it’s impossible to calc Gigantomachia’s speed in the scene since there isn’t a timeframe or anything

And I’m not using logic that comes from calculations; these are objective things that occur. Gran Torino can move faster than his own voice. That doesn’t need a calc, it’s blatantly Supersonic. Same with Endeavor generating sonic booms.

And that's fine for rating characters off of that; but you're just assuming that for Gigantomachia's speed which is the same as hiding an actual calculation to find his real speed. That's the whole reason why that rule exists.

It's no different than saying. "This character scales to this character who scales to this character who can dodge bullets, so I can assume X speed for them in this calc."

 

[Therefir]

@Damage3245 IF you have the time to can you look at this?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ative_Bewegung:_Himmelsdurchdringende_Eiswand

You need to use the 1 second timeframe that was decided for this feat here.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

You need to use the 1 second timeframe that was decided for this feat here.

Ah ok

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

You need to use the 1 second timeframe that was decided for this feat here.

changed
but before anyone checks it I’m going to do some slight remeasuring @Therefir
I noticed another spike that would work better

 

[Therefir]

You're just going to use the highest ice spike to get greater results, I know.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

You're just going to use the highest ice spike to get greater results, I know.

I more thought that the one I used was cradled between the highest/farthest out spike and others that it wouldn’t be the best one to use, so I’m taking the one farthest out because well, it’s the farthest one out so it’s the most reliable place to put point B It having higher results has nothing to do with it, it’s just a nice bonus

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

@Therefir ok now it’s updated

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

And that's fine for rating characters off of that; but you're just assuming that for Gigantomachia's speed which is the same as hiding an actual calculation to find his real speed. That's the whole reason why that rule exists.

If it’s impossible for an accurate calc to be made on his speed, I don’t see why the assumption wouldn’t be valid

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

@Therefir lol That's going to be the third calc I made that has been relegated to the secondary calcs section

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

I looked at the festive explosion calc just to see how it was done, and while I am kinda confused on why Rusty measured it from side to side.

The uh, the air burst Formula has changed from Y being Tons to Megatons, and the * 1000 has changed to be / 1000.

So unless we really want to start that fire I don’t think that things being touched.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Nvm did the math using just the first number ( aka just 60 and 80, none of the other stuff) from Rusty’s measurements (side to side) and my own (top to bottom).

It’s either 4.919 tons (Close enough to 5) or 11.66 tons using that, and using Rusty’s entire number its still 5.13

 

[Cyberblader90]

spoilers are out

 

[Gitagon]

Spoiler

Spinner and Shoji about to get a boost after this. The 2 new quirks Spinner uses this chapter is Rigidity & Scale Armor.(the names might be different in the officials).

Shoji on the other hand basically pulls a Muscular and wraps his arm in fleshy eyes.

Koda grows out his horns and I guess he can control way more animals now.

 

[Gitagon]

Spoiler

also I'm glad this storyline is getting more than a few chapters. The actual Shoji vs Spinner full fight seems like it will be next chapter. And it seems Koda will take on the PLF Advisers/Lieutenant

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Spoiler

Tomura being a LOL fan explains SO MUCH about his character...

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Spoiler

Tomura being a League of Legends fan makes so much sense, explains why he doesnt shower

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Re-Destro needs High Hypersonic reactions for intercepting Tokoyami’s charge.

This also makes Awakened Shigaraki High Hypersonic

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Absolutely. Some of the shit that he was able to pull off in earlier chapters wouldn't be possible if he wasn't. Like jumping up multiple building stories before gravity kicks in.

If we can get everyone to agree on it we can upgrade a lot of characters.

 

[Damage3245]

Re-Destro needs High Hypersonic reactions for intercepting Tokoyami’s charge.

This also makes Awakened Shigaraki High Hypersonic

There is a scaling problem on the profiles.

Tokoyami is High Hypersonic for keeping up with Dabi who is Massively Hypersonic because he scales to Endeavor who scales to Shigaraki who scales to Nine who scales to 100% Full Cowl Izuku.


Are we saying that Re-Destro and Tokoyami are on par with 100% Full Cowl Izuku?

 

[Emerald]

I guess they are scaling to a suppressed Dabi or something, thats why they are baseline HH and not MHS

 

[TimmyTurnero]

There is a scaling problem on the profiles.

Tokoyami is High Hypersonic for keeping up with Dabi who is Massively Hypersonic because he scales to Endeavor who scales to Shigaraki who scales to Nine who scales to 100% Full Cowl Izuku.


Are we saying that Re-Destro and Tokoyami are on par with 100% Full Cowl Izuku?

If random ass heroes can keep up with high end nomu and “use sheer force to brush off their strength like it’s nothing”
I wouldn’t put it past me

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

If random ass heroes can keep up with high end nomu and “use sheer force to brush off their strength like it’s nothing”
I wouldn’t put it past me

High End Nomu really mess with the scaling lol.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Spoiler

Tomura being a LOL fan explains SO MUCH about his character...

Spoiler

Deku and Tomura are really two sides of the same coin

 

[Kingofwolves999]

High End Nomu if statements didn’t exist

 

[BlackeJan]

Ochako could solo the verse quirkless with no limbs and blind while on fire, and they would still hate her

I-is that even possible?

 

[Therefir]

High End Nomu really mess with the scaling lol.

And Shigaraki being incapable of blitzing anyone with Prime All Might speed.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

And Shigaraki being incapable of blitzing anyone with Prime All Might speed.

That too like ngl Hori could’ve given him super strength and toughness without it being AM level or he could’ve given him AM level strength and toughness but lower reaction speed or something.

 

[Therefir]

@TheRustyOne Tokoyami is still High Hypersonic from older scaling, should he continue to scale from Dabi and make him MHS?

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

I-is that even possible?

Anything's possible in shonen.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

There is a scaling problem on the profiles.

Tokoyami is High Hypersonic for keeping up with Dabi who is Massively Hypersonic because he scales to Endeavor who scales to Shigaraki who scales to Nine who scales to 100% Full Cowl Izuku.


Are we saying that Re-Destro and Tokoyami are on par with 100% Full Cowl Izuku?

To be fair, I wouldn’t be surprised if Tokoyami had MHS reactions. Even though it happened after the first war, he essentially moved on par with Hawks and kept pace with AFO

And Re-Destro will end up scaling to MHS regardless because of tagging Edgeshot I thought

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Unfortunately, the scaling chain becomes incredibly weird because Awakened Shigaraki would almost be as fast as 75% AFO Shigaraki

 

[SuperStar]

I was afraid this would happen one day

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Awakened Shigaraki can tag Re-Destro and catch punches from him, who can fight on par with Edgeshot, who can evade Shigaraki’s hand growth, which is fast enough to tag Mirko

Weird

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

The Re Destro thing could be explained as him not actually keeping up with Edgeshot but damaging him due to the range of his attacks. We don’t actually see the fight so there could be multiple other reasons he damaged him.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

The Re Destro thing could be explained as him not actually keeping up with Edgeshot but damaging him due to the range of his attacks. We don’t actually see the fight so there could be multiple other reasons he damaged him.

Assuming we end up scaling Tokoyami up to MHS through Dabi like Therefir said, we may end up still having Re-Destro at MHS and therefore Awakened Shiggy at MHS

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Oh dang you’re right.