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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

I’m not gonna argue we toss out all the calcs we have however he has a point since villains exist and they have performed environmental destruction feats and they’re tier 8.
Gigantomachia has a Tier 7 feat, All For One has a Tier 7 to Tier 6 feat. Thing is with Shigaraki is that we haven’t seen him in action going out and destroying cities; he’s being purposely isolated
 
I’m not gonna argue we toss out all the calcs we have however he has a point since villains exist and they have performed environmental destruction feats and they’re tier 8.
I don't see any issue beyond personal ones.

Actual destruction feats alone would make Re-Destro stronger than All Might. AFO's Air Cannon has been downgraded to a lower 8-A than Re-Destro, and their giant shockwaves don't reach the same size as Re-Destro. This kind of issue exist within the majority of super power series.

Prime AFO could have a 6-C destruction feat from the All Might Rising thing, but that requires some jumps in logic.
 
I don't see any issue beyond personal ones.

Actual destruction feats alone would make Re-Destro stronger than All Might. AFO's Air Cannon has been downgraded to a lower 8-A than Re-Destro, and their giant shockwaves don't reach the same size as Re-Destro. This kind of issue exist within the majority of super power series.

Prime AFO could have a 6-C destruction feat from the All Might Rising thing, but that requires some jumps in logic.
I didn’t say anything about an issue I just said he does have a point that the really high stuff is all cloud things.
 
I didn’t say anything about an issue I just said he does have a point that the really high stuff is all cloud things.
Because cloud calculations are absurd, I won't deny that.

Likely because there is no author in the world that actually thinks about how much energy would go into moving a bunch of clouds.
 
Because cloud calculations are absurd, I won't deny that.

Likely because there is no author in the world that actually thinks about how much energy would go into moving a bunch of clouds.
Honestly I feel like Hori’s idea of the characters are much weaker and slower than what’s on this wiki but he just doesn’t think of the science of what he’s doing.
 
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you got to admit guys, mr compress is very handsome don’t you think


But is this question true?

Question isn’t mr compress supposed to be based on Robin Hood (sort of)

Something something his ancestor/great grandfather something something steal from the rich.
 
Honestly I feel like Hori’s idea of the characters are much weaker and slower than what’s on this wiki but he just doesn’t think of the science of what he’s doing.
Highly doubt he thinks 5% Izuku is around 5 Tons of TNT and moves at 7 times the speed of sound.

100 km per hour Gigantomachia anyone? However that doesn't even make sense with his actual size.
 
I’d say Harima (his great whatever grandpa) is based on Robin Hood. Compress is just trying to follow his lead but he really doesn’t have that Robin Hood vibe.

so compress is a dick? (Though compared to the other members he’s not as evil as they are) am i right.


hey at least he’s handsome. And his mask looks cool.


plus he did the right job of destroying overhauls arm.
 
What would Gigantomachia's base strength be after the upgrades - would he be High 6-C+ scaling from Re-Destro or would he keep his 8-A rating?
 
What would Gigantomachia's base strength be after the upgrades - would he be High 6-C+ scaling from Re-Destro or would he keep his 8-A rating?
He should keep his 8-A rating, since his weakest showing of power is still 8-A.

Varies from 8-A, up to Low 6-B

This does cover him becoming High 6-C. Unless we want to also rate his High 6-C stuff as well, though it doesn't seem necessary to me.
 
Because cloud calculations are absurd, I won't deny that.

Likely because there is no author in the world that actually thinks about how much energy would go into moving a bunch of clouds.
literally how does this work in defense of cloud feats?


I can see horikoshi seeing even his characters as City-Mountain, based on him tanking nuclear warheads and gigantomachia's weird feat

But my god, country? Do you really think that Horikoshi sees his characters like that?

This is not DBZ, at least they had mentions of power there, hell, the BNHA sometimes talk about "devastating cities" but never something like a country
 
If you were to pick 3 quirks to combine to make a powerful one to surpass One For All, which three are you picking? No overly haxxy ones (New Order, Rewind)

I’m gonna go with:
Pump Up (The strength enhancement is on par with OFA alone, and can further amp one’s strength)
Overclock (Fastest quirk so far in series: can manipulate one’s own reactions, perception and speed to move so fast everyone seems frozen)
Air Walk (Just cause why not, flying sounds pretty fun)
 
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literally how does this work in defense of cloud feats?


I can see horikoshi seeing even his characters as City-Mountain, based on him tanking nuclear warheads and gigantomachia's weird feat

But my god, country? Do you really think that Horikoshi sees his characters like that?

This is not DBZ, at least they had mentions of power there, hell, the BNHA sometimes talk about "devastating cities" but never something like a country
Bro just let it go
 
literally how does this work in defense of cloud feats?


I can see horikoshi seeing even his characters as City-Mountain, based on him tanking nuclear warheads and gigantomachia's weird feat

But my god, country? Do you really think that Horikoshi sees his characters like that?

This is not DBZ, at least they had mentions of power there, hell, the BNHA sometimes talk about "devastating cities" but never something like a country
who gives a shit of what hori thinks in terms of power? do u really think hori thinks 5% deku can destroy a large building? do u think hori beilves bakugos howitzer impact can destroy a whole town?

god this argument is so dumb, only people who are so desperate against characters in certain ratings talk like this
 
literally how does this work in defense of cloud feats?
Because it doesn't matter if they don't actually destroy a countries or islands in universe. Also the Tier names don't equal what a character can destroy.

Your arguing from incredibility because you personally don't believe it. But moving clouds is no different from destroying something large, they both require lots of energy to perform. Only in this case moving clouds aren't as flashy as destroying a city.

Saying there is no way an author thinks they're a certain level isn't an argument against the ratings. The guidebooks made by Horikoshi are a prime example, we don't accept the rating he gives the characters as legitimate as they don't make sense. IDK why Horikoshi rated Endeavor's power and speed above Hood's.

Those feats exist in universe. A cloud feat isn't less of a feat vs destroying a city/mountain/country.

This wiki doesn't not put one higher than the other.
 
If you were to pick 3 quirks to combine to make a powerful one to surpass One For All, which three are you picking? No overly haxxy ones (New Order, Rewind)

I’m gonna go with:
Pump Up (The strength enhancement is on par with OFA alone, and can further amp one’s strength)
Overclock (Fastest quirk so far in series: can manipulate one’s own reactions, perception and speed to move so fast everyone seems frozen)
Air Walk (Just cause why not, flying sounds pretty fun)
Actually I’ll swap out Air Walk for Air Cannon, I can propel myself at high speeds and also use long range attacks
 
Im trying to ignore the silly arguments going on rn but I doubt Horikoshi doesn’t know what he’s doing with the cloud feats. We’ve had like 6 or 7 in the series so far, and we literally had one in the first episode (that was seen as an impressive feat for All Might)

I don’t think Horikoshi would continuously feature cloud feats if he didn’t know at least SOME of the science
 
If you were to pick 3 quirks to combine to make a powerful one to surpass One For All, which three are you picking? No overly haxxy ones (New Order, Rewind)

I’m gonna go with:
Pump Up (The strength enhancement is on par with OFA alone, and can further amp one’s strength)
Overclock (Fastest quirk so far in series: can manipulate one’s own reactions, perception and speed to move so fast everyone seems frozen)
Air Walk (Just cause why not, flying sounds pretty fun)
-Permeation
-Erasure
-Hyper regen
 
If you were to pick 3 quirks to combine to make a powerful one to surpass One For All, which three are you picking? No overly haxxy ones (New Order, Rewind)

I’m gonna go with:
Pump Up (The strength enhancement is on par with OFA alone, and can further amp one’s strength)
Overclock (Fastest quirk so far in series: can manipulate one’s own reactions, perception and speed to move so fast everyone seems frozen)
Air Walk (Just cause why not, flying sounds pretty fun)
Erasure, Pump Up, Overclock objectively kills everyone in the verse
 
who gives a shit of what hori thinks in terms of power? do u really think hori thinks 5% deku can destroy a large building? do u think hori beilves bakugos howitzer impact can destroy a whole town?

god this argument is so dumb, only people who are so desperate against characters in certain ratings talk like this
-Yes, horikoshi probably think deku is around building, and Homitzer at town, maybe not exactly 5 tons of tnt or any hard numbers, but you can still see it way more with their feats

-"Who gives a shit of what horikoshi thinks"

Anyone who is honestly trying to analyze HIS verse, and not just going for overthinking High end stuff
 
Anyone who is honestly trying to analyze HIS verse, and not just going for overthinking High end stuff
i think its very well known that we don't scale characters off of what the authors think, no verse on this site does that
-Yes, horikoshi probably think deku is around building, and Homitzer at town, maybe not exactly 5 tons of tnt or any hard numbers, but you can still see it way more with their feats
yea see? hori doesn't think deku can generate ******* 5 tons of TNT in his kicks, why? because were scaling off of our interpretation. power scaling in general is about interpretation
 
-Yes, horikoshi probably think deku is around building, and Homitzer at town, maybe not exactly 5 tons of tnt or any hard numbers, but you can still see it way more with their feats

-"Who gives a shit of what horikoshi thinks"

Anyone who is honestly trying to analyze HIS verse, and not just going for overthinking High end stuff
Gege making his verse slower than Mach 3 is still the funniest thing to this day
 
If you were to pick 3 quirks to combine to make a powerful one to surpass One For All, which three are you picking? No overly haxxy ones (New Order, Rewind)
For pure strength.

Rabbit, Pump Up, and Sugar Rush for a 5X multiplier. What combo would be stronger than this?

I think Rabbit + Overclock would be better than Pump Up + Overclock. Since Pump Up is strong but lacks speed, Muscular is slow as hell. While Rabbit gives just as much leg strength, if not more, and is much faster than Pump Up. At least going by what we see, I think the speed multiplied by Overclock is worth being a Glass Cannon.

Though honestly just Pump Up and Overclock would be insane. Adding on Erasure just makes it unfair.
 
What does overclock do?
Overclock: This Quirk can boost the users speed by 3x to 10x normally, and up to 24x in fight-or-flight situations.

It has been stated on multiple occasions that this Quirk can make the user so fast that the world is perceived as frozen.
 
Overclock: This Quirk can boost the users speed by 3x to 10x normally, and up to 24x in fight-or-flight situations.

It has been stated on multiple occasions that this Quirk can make the user so fast that the world is perceived as frozen.
Don’t forget the crazy ass evolution BS that Number 6 was doing with this quirk that literally turned him into a multi-phase JRPG boss battle.
 
Don’t forget the crazy ass evolution BS that Number 6 was doing with this quirk that literally turned him into a multi-phase JRPG boss battle.
I believe the Bomber Cells were helping out a good deal as well. It seemed to be a combination of both Quirks that allowed such absurdity.

Overclock does some crazy things with other Quirks. No wonder AFO wanted it so bad, who knows what kind of BS he'd be able to pull.
 
Honestly it's a little absurd that AFO never copied Overclock, unless the Doctor didn't have the knowledge to copy Quirks during Vigilantes. However this should be impossible, since the Doctor's Quirk was given to AFO and is how he lived so long. Which means he should be able to copy Quirks at this point.

Also Shock Absorption would still be useful, they should've copied it and made it a standard for every Upper/High-End Nomu like Hyper Regen is.
 
Honestly it's a little absurd that AFO never copied Overclock, unless the Doctor didn't have the knowledge to copy Quirks during Vigilantes. However this should be impossible, since the Doctor's Quirk was given to AFO and is how he lived so long. Which means he should be able to copy Quirks at this point.

Also Shock Absorption would still be useful, they should've copied it and made it a standard for every Upper/High-End Nomu like Hyper Regen is.
Inb4 Shiggy gets his quirks back and immediately uses Overclock
 
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