My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

[Chronicplane]

Spoiler

Man this really is a dire situation at Gunga mountain lol, so if the heroes keep attacking him he'll just keep erasing the damage thanks to rewind and making the possible theory of the drug wearing of becoming more possible but if they don't attack him then there's nothing stopping AFO from freeing his main body at UA and killing countless heroes on the way out and he doesn't care since it was designated for the scrapeheap anyway. Talk about a win-win situation for the great demon lord

How are they going to stop him?!

Is bloody All Might going to arrive with Eri on his back or something?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Spoiler

What do you mean same character as last time? Bakugo was never in danger of dying nor did anyone believe he was going to die beforehand. Him shielding Izuku isn't considered a fake out by anyone I've seen, if anyone thought he was dying there they must have been trolling or literally illiterate. That isn't a fake out death, it was a good moment for Bakugo to finally show us that he has the instinct to be a top hero and how much he's grown.

Spoiler: Slight Rant

Also this isn't towards anyone in particular, just something I've noticed for years. This applies to not just MHA, but fiction in general.

Why do people keep saying something is factually bad, when it's all opinion based? Seeing people act like this is really disappointing and makes it hard to take part in conversations. If you personally dislike something that's fine. But don't say no it isn't about disliking it, they're 100% right this is bad and anyone who disagrees are just fans who refuse to accept it. That's why they say it's just bad writing, instead of saying they don't like the writing/direction.

They have to make it seem like the author is at fault and that their opinion is correct. Instead of just saying that they don't like the direction the story is going and find the events that happen to be rather stupid or something. It's also pretty insulting to the author if nothing is actually going on with them and are content with what they have

The author is tired or something is also disrespectful as hell, it's borderline an insult. Basically saying that even the author would agree with your opinion and that it was just a mistake they made while tired is so arrogant. Like wait until you actually know that the author is being force or is indeed being burnt out.

Because maybe... just maybe, the author's vision isn't what you personally agree with? I find it absurd that everyone apparently knows what is going on in an author's head. Instead of this being something they choose and wanted to make, and not the mistake people want them to think it is.

Criticism is needed for a story, and I have my share fair of problems towards many series (I love and watch RWBY). But people acting like what they say isn't a opinion but a fact, and when someone points out how they're acting they'll just say that it's only their opinion and you can't argue with them. That is childish behavior.

Chad Rusty speaking fact vs Virgin Therefir dropping the series like a soy wojack

 

[SuperStar]

Not throwing anyone under the bus or anything, but I hope no one here is serious about “dropping the series” over a bad moment that seems unnecessary

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Chad Rusty speaking fact vs Virgin Therefir dropping the series like a soy wojack

How’s about you don’t insult people regardless of their decisions on the series so I don’t report you for being an asshole?

 

[Dreymannn]

How’s about you don’t insult people regardless of their decisions on the series so I don’t report you for being an asshole?

Eh its not that big of a deal.

Regardless though, Japanese writers are different than Western writers. The amount of series where a character has died just to be brought back to life is quite a bit. Its not as bad as comics, but still. I mean, Hell, Saitama reversed time a bit ago to save Genos and the other heroes.

As much as I think it would be good if Bakugo stayed how he was in the previous chapters, Id be lying if I said I didn't want to see Bakugo fight in that awakened longer and fight with Deku. If Bakugo dies after the battle, then that'll be a different story.

I think people are expecting a bit to much from a Shonen series, but it is what it is.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Chad Rusty speaking fact vs Virgin Therefir dropping the series like a soy wojack

I'm going to assume this is sarcasm, due to the line through the sentence. But I find that this is still rather distasteful. I also hadn't read Therefir's comment when I wrote that. I haven't gone back through the pages yet, I wanted to write down my thoughts first.

But if someone is annoyed by something so much in a series that they truly do wish to drop it. That's perfectly fine. My entire point is that stories are heavily opinion based. And even stated that people are free to be angry and annoyed by a decision in the story.

While I don't care and still enjoy the turn around, for now I add, I won't truly argue against someone else opinion beyond pointing out why I disagree. But they are free to feel like someone has dropped the ball. My own opinion isn't fact either, just how I feel when reading the story.

How’s about you don’t insult people regardless of their decisions on the series so I don’t report you for being an asshole?

While I agree it was very uncalled for. This type of response doesn't help. Don't respond in anger because that has the possibility of growing into an issue. Just because someone maybe insulting you or another person, doesn't give you the right to insult them back. Since you have no idea how serious they actually are.

Obviously not the case here, but some people are also trolls trying to get a reaction.

Don't show hostility or hate over a fictional story, because some people will respond back with similar emotions and that will become a problem. Just ignore when someone is acting like that, or if you do feel the need to respond, try not to let your response back to them be in the heat of the moment.

I understand me of all people saying this is kind of absurd, but I do try my best and I won't stop trying until I have full control. Look I just don't want anyone to hold hard feelings or anything over a decision in a manga.

If I'm worrying too much then I apologies for overreacting like this. I don't mean to make this an issue.

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Spoiler

I don't but the Quirk bit, BUT...

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

If personalities change after a organ transplant, wouldn’t that further link to my Soul Manipulation argument? Assuming the transplants affect the user’s personality as a result of the quirk factor of the organ, that would mean that souls are related to the thing

 

[SuperStar]

And since every quirk comes with a soul then Deku gets 8 layers of soul hax

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

If personalities change after a organ transplant, wouldn’t that further link to my Soul Manipulation argument? Assuming the transplants affect the user’s personality as a result of the quirk factor of the organ, that would mean that souls are related to the thing

You also have the common phenomenon of a people’s soul leaving their body upon death, and you have Bakugou meeting All Might’s vestige

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Spoiler: Never gonna give you up,never gonna let you down

Why do people keep saying something is factually bad, when it's all opinion based? Seeing people act like this is really disappointing and makes it hard to take part in conversations. If you personally dislike something that's fine. But don't say no it isn't about disliking it, they're 100% right this is bad and anyone who disagrees are just fans who refuse to accept it. That's why they say it's just bad writing, instead of saying they don't like the writing/direction.

Spoiler: Never gonna give you up,never gonna let you down

it comes from people conflating perscriptive and descriptive judgments and believing because one aspect is objective that the conclusion would be as well

The author is tired or something is also disrespectful as hell, it's borderline an insult. Basically saying that even the author would agree with your opinion and that it was just a mistake they made while tired is so arrogant. Like wait until you actually know that the author is being force or is indeed being burnt out.

Theres nothing wrong with making inference, it's only an issue when the statement you make is being argued as absolute, Like for example i would argue that the Rise of skywalkers messy production is what caused many of it's issues, the strict deadlines and lack of time most likely lead to the writers taking shortcuts to get the story they wanted without building it organically, it's not a fact but it is an argument you can make based on inference.

Because maybe... just maybe, the author's vision isn't what you personally agree with? I find it absurd that everyone apparently knows what is going on in an author's head. Instead of this being something they choose and wanted to make, and not the mistake people want them to think it is.

It can be either.

Criticism is needed for a story, and I have my share fair of problems towards many series (I love and watch RWBY). But people acting like what they say isn't a opinion but a fact, and when someone points out how they're acting they'll just say that it's only their opinion and you can't argue with them. That is childish behavior.

People like feeling correct, they like to dish out objective criticism of some sort but fall back on the safety net of subjectivity when they get called out on it. it's more often than not people just disliking something and trying to find reasons after the fact to justify it, but more than likely those same people will love something else with the exact same flaws anyway[/SPOILER]

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Unironically one of my fav Volume covers

 

[Chronicplane]

Unironically one of my fav Volume covers

My man spittin fax, and Jirou is also underrated girl.

 

[Chronicplane]

 

[Gitagon]

Only difference is that AFO doesn't have a love interest lol. (Maybe Ujiko considering his lines this chapter )

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Spoiler

Is this feat usable? AFO flew down to the ground from the cloud’s height and also perception blitzed a random pro hero in the process

 

[Chronicplane]

probably if we assume he dropped to the ground in a few seconds but I'm unsure how fast that would be.

 

[Mageman460]

Is this feat usable? AFO flew down to the ground from the cloud’s height and also perception blitzed a random pro hero in the process

Spoiler stuff until official release please.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

If personalities change after a organ transplant, wouldn’t that further link to my Soul Manipulation argument? Assuming the transplants affect the user’s personality as a result of the quirk factor of the organ, that would mean that souls are related to the thing

The kanji used not only to describe the "consciousnesses" within One For All but also the "raw spirits" Shigaraki spoke of is 意識, "isshiki", in direct reference to the mind. Moreover, All For One explains to Izuku and Nana that all Quirks contain the consciousness of their former owners, comparing Quirks to cells that house their own memories in this regard, and references a medical phenomenon in which patients of organ transplants are reported to experience shifts in emotions and tastes, a real world phenomenon that links the body and the brain.

 

[SuperStar]

Once they bring out the Kanji, it's over

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Spoiler stuff until official release please.

Spoiler

My bad

Still would like an answer tho. I did some rough calcs for the feat and got Mach 641

 

[TheRustyOne]

Spoiler

My bad

Still would like an answer tho. I did some rough calcs for the feat and got Mach 641

Spoiler

No. AFO didn't blitz anyone until he arrived on the ground, people can't even see a human if they really are at cloud height. No one on the ground was shown to noticed him until he landed and was already behind them. You can't use blitzing timeframe for when he's falling from the sky. Since he wasn't blitzing anyone there.

We don't see people looking up at him and suddenly losing sight of him and he is behind them. He lands in front of them and ends up behind them before they react.

 

[Kingur_RG3]

Spoiler

So basically all for one is going to rewind until it disappears?
we will see a teenage year and a child
that would be interesting

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

No. AFO didn't blitz anyone until he arrived on the ground, people can't even see a human if they really are at cloud height. No one on the ground was shown to noticed him until he landed and was already behind them. You can't use blitzing timeframe for when he's falling from the sky. Since he wasn't blitzing anyone there.

We don't see people looking up at him and suddenly losing sight of him and he is behind them. He lands in front of them and ends up behind them before they react.

Spoiler

I’ll combine two results: him falling from the clouds at high speeds and him blitzing the hero and see what I get

Edit: Nvm only got Mach 18

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

This feat is actually really good.

I just realized that Toga wasn’t just perception blitzing them: they were literally frozen. You can see because some of them are mid-movement and some of them are in the air.

I can’t calculate the distance travelled well but this is Hypersonic+ at bare minimum, likely High Hypersonic

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

This feat is actually really good.

I just realized that Toga wasn’t just perception blitzing them: they were literally frozen. You can see because some of them are mid-movement and some of them are in the air.

I can’t calculate the distance travelled well but this is Hypersonic+ at bare minimum, likely High Hypersonic

If anyone could calc the distance I’d appreciate it

 

[Damage3245]

I just realized that Toga wasn’t just perception blitzing them: they were literally frozen. You can see because some of them are mid-movement and some of them are in the air.

That might just be an exaggeration of the animation.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

That might just be an exaggeration of the animation.

Could be but there’s no counter evidence to it since the manga also depicts them getting perception blitzed, we just can’t tell if they’re frozen in the manga as well

Plus animation exaggerations like this usually never appear in MHA so I don’t think it’s an artistic liberty thing

 

[Earthyboy]

Unironically one of my fav Volume covers.

It looks even better physically. It really pops.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Could be but there’s no counter evidence to it since the manga also depicts them getting perception blitzed, we just can’t tell if they’re frozen in the manga as well

Plus animation exaggerations like this usually never appear in MHA so I don’t think it’s an artistic liberty thing

Would like other opinions on this

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

That might just be an exaggeration of the animation.

The manga panel doesn’t really give us anything different.
In fact I think it supports this, given she darts through and their all in the same position when they died as they were in when when she started to c-c-c-c-c-combo them (unless some did, and I just don’t remember)

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

If someone knows how to calc the distance I’ll make the calc

 

[Gitagon]

Toga doesn't have hyper-sonic movement speed. She's not reaching that level in pure running speed any time soon and no one does in the verse unless they have a speed or power boosting quirk.
Some scaling is pointless since we all know that's not how things are.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Toga doesn't have hyper-sonic movement speed. She's not reaching that level in pure running speed any time soon and no one does in the verse unless they have a speed or power boosting quirk.
Some scaling is pointless since we all know that's not how things are.

We already list her as having Hypersonic movement lol

Like 10-20 different characters have Hypersonic or higher movement without a power quirk

Plus u saying she doesn’t “have hypersonic movement speed” is irrelevant and kinda a pointless statement since I just brought up a feat that’s in that range

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

How’s about you don’t insult people regardless of their decisions on the series so I don’t report you for being an asshole?

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Flect Turn
Aizawa
Toga
Gentle Criminal
Vlad King
Shigaraki
Re-Destro
Best Jeanist

All Hypersonic and above with no speed boosts or power boosts

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Anyway while what Rusty said is correct and thats my bad for made that comment, i'm still can't get over the fact that peoples are still taking the stripped words seriously while it was not intended at all lel

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

We already list her as having Hypersonic movement lol

Like 10-20 different characters have Hypersonic or higher movement without a power quirk

Plus u saying she doesn’t “have hypersonic movement speed” is irrelevant and kinda a pointless statement since I just brought up a feat that’s in that range

Yeeeeeaaaaaah we have
How many people there?
Like everyone at the 5% range as it, all of them scaling at or above Mach 7.
Hell by that logic none of the people fighting COMPLETE AFO Shigaraki outside of Miruko or Shigaraki himself (Shigaraki had all his quirks cancelled, he doesn’t count for having quirks either) should be reach HS,HS+,HHS,HHS+, or MHS, yet as you can see from rusty’s drafts (on page 213), they already have

 

[Gitagon]

We already list her as having Hypersonic movement lol

Like 10-20 different characters have Hypersonic or higher movement without a power quirk

Plus u saying she doesn’t “have hypersonic movement speed” is irrelevant and kinda a pointless statement since I just brought up a feat that’s in that range

I have obviously never agreed with such nonsense otherwise characters like Endeavor wouldn't be hiding from nail guns of all things but I understand how this site works.

 

[InvisibleInternetMan]

Ujiko was fruity as hell this chapter, not that there's anything wrong with that but I feel he can do better than AFO ******* face