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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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It’s kinda weird that the leaks dropped so early
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Summary of both OVAs. We get a reveal of Shishido's quirk which is like a lion on steroids: super strength - stops a moving truck, super claws - cuts some drills, and super roar. Also Shishido is basically equal to Gang Orca in terms of physical strength and their 1v1 super-powered game ends with both knocked out. They are basically rivals.
Smiley, the villain of the laughing OVA, has gotta be like top 10 in the verse with how broken his quirk is. Seeing his face even if it's a recording is enough to get people laughing for 2 hours straight. They can't even use their quirks right, knock themselves out, and even Bakugo passes out at the end. His quirk even works on robots. He basically defeats the team twice. Everyone is defeated - Endeavor, all the Flaming sidekickers + the origin trio. And in the end his quirk even works on everyone watching his arrest through TV so that's gotta be millions of people.
Smiley, the villain of the laughing OVA, has gotta be like top 10 in the verse with how broken his quirk is. Seeing his face even if it's a recording is enough to get people laughing for 2 hours straight. They can't even use their quirks right, knock themselves out, and even Bakugo passes out at the end. His quirk even works on robots. He basically defeats the team twice. Everyone is defeated - Endeavor, all the Flaming sidekickers + the origin trio. And in the end his quirk even works on everyone watching his arrest through TV so that's gotta be millions of people.
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First that is broken as heck. Second how’d they even beat that?
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First, do we have some Burnin action? And second, how are they defeated and arrested Smiley?
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This is a Gen. Disc. Thread
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The plan was for a blindfolded Bakugo to fight him while Endeavor gives directions like B1, C3, etc in his ear though this failed when Deku intervened.
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He's more like Gentle so he isn't "real villain".
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So did they not beat him or what, what happened
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Their plan would have definitely worked to beat him since Bakugo underwent like a week of training to fight blindfolded with Endeavor. Then they had Endeavor giving instructions through an ear piece, stuff like B1, C2, etc. They didn't beat him since Deku interfered causing the blindfold to come off and Bakugo to pass out. Then some armed robbers interfered and Smiley helped capture them.
It's all in the Twitter thread I linked so I am just summarizing. Beating him isn't exactly rocket science just that with the first encounter, one is likely to lose unless they blitz him from behind making sure they don't see his face even if it is just a reflection or recording. Or just fight blindfolded/eyes closed.
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Kinda out of character for Deku of all people to end up ruining their operation, but that's how OVA writers work I guess.
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Smiley is a graffiti artist not some supervillain. His only crime is graffiti lol. Even Endeavor didn't plan to go after him until he drew on his house thus making it "personal". The OVA is light-hearted with zero stakes. It's mostly comedy. It's not like they are chasing a killer or something.
Deku also identifies with him since he was/is a failed artist and he only stops Bakugo since he was about to destroy one of the paintings. Basically "protecting his dream." It's very reminiscent of Gentle arc only this time there is no conflict of interest (Eri's happiness). All in all, even if they didn't catch this guy, the world would have continued on just fine. This is one of the few OVAs where no one truly acted out of character. Heck Deku spent a week researching Smiley with Kaminari's help just to understand him.
In the end, the true violent villains are bunch of armed robbers with guns and shit.
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Even in MHA, guns are the root of all evil...
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Ngl I think All For One has a top 3 villain entrance in shonen. The only villains who compare imo are Blackbeard, Chrollo, maybe Meruem
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Aizen in the anime when he stops Ichigo’s sword with a finger and shuts off his theme song is a 1000/10 introduction I’d say, even if we knew and had seen him a lot prior.
That was a “no, I’m changing the plot” moment I can never forget. That basically started Bleach all over revealing the actual antagonist and that all this soul society bs was actually just a starting point for the main villain to arrive.
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Also holy **** Endeavor is a badass for making a flame arm to punch through AFO’s attack. Absolute sauce. And his backstory stuff, at long lost, further makes me truly appreciate one of the top 5 characters in the manga.
Props to Tokoyami for smacking the hell out of AFO as well, he got a good hit in that actually rocked the big bad, flat out damage. Love that for him.
Hawks still MVP of this fight for saving Jirou and Tokoyami from the Rivet Stab barrage, he’s been putting in the most work until Endeavor this chapter.
Jirou affecting the vestiges explained as her affecting the quirks that deal with hearing and his vision. Very interesting explanation I’d say, and she’s still going strong like she isn’t missing an ear, I love it. I think she can even pseudo fly with the sound waves in one panel? Idk need full chapter. But yeah, then thinking ahead to bring Jirou because they know he uses vibrations to sense, and that actually affecting his vestige world not just his body, is a big brain play by the heroes.
And of course, AFO, getting bodied left and right. I love that he got smacked around by people he was disrespecting 2 chapters ago. Very deserved. However, he isn’t beaten yet, of that I guarantee. This last attack by Endeavor ****** him up, but it’s not over until we see the man dead. I think he’s actually going to win in this particular fight of the battlefield, but we’ll see how things play out.
Props to Tokoyami for smacking the hell out of AFO as well, he got a good hit in that actually rocked the big bad, flat out damage. Love that for him.
Hawks still MVP of this fight for saving Jirou and Tokoyami from the Rivet Stab barrage, he’s been putting in the most work until Endeavor this chapter.
Jirou affecting the vestiges explained as her affecting the quirks that deal with hearing and his vision. Very interesting explanation I’d say, and she’s still going strong like she isn’t missing an ear, I love it. I think she can even pseudo fly with the sound waves in one panel? Idk need full chapter. But yeah, then thinking ahead to bring Jirou because they know he uses vibrations to sense, and that actually affecting his vestige world not just his body, is a big brain play by the heroes.
And of course, AFO, getting bodied left and right. I love that he got smacked around by people he was disrespecting 2 chapters ago. Very deserved. However, he isn’t beaten yet, of that I guarantee. This last attack by Endeavor ****** him up, but it’s not over until we see the man dead. I think he’s actually going to win in this particular fight of the battlefield, but we’ll see how things play out.
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We need a new feat for low tier UA students to scale to
Even the top tiers that aren’t Bakugou, Deku, and Todo only upscale to baseline 8-B (besides Tokoyami who will likely reach 7-A, and High 6-C if the CRT happens)
I want tier 7 students
Even the top tiers that aren’t Bakugou, Deku, and Todo only upscale to baseline 8-B (besides Tokoyami who will likely reach 7-A, and High 6-C if the CRT happens)
I want tier 7 students
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You could say Endeavor is "wielding a firearm".
Okay, I don't think the joke is that funny, but some people on another site I posted it on did, so... shrug
Okay, I don't think the joke is that funny, but some people on another site I posted it on did, so... shrug
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This was a really good chapter! Even if AFO isn't defeated by this, I hope the results of this battle hinder him from here on out. Anyone else notice in that wide shot for AFO's big rivet stab you can see Endeavor's flame trail that he left as he flew up? Which is a nice detail.
Tsukuyomi landing a heavy hit on AFO and Jirou can slow her own fall with her soundwaves. Endeavor literally punched AFO with a Flashfire Fist. I know he did this earlier with his Vanishing Fist attacks, but I like how Endeavor just made a flaming fist from his stump.
Guess Endeavor is getting a second key after all.
Tsukuyomi landing a heavy hit on AFO and Jirou can slow her own fall with her soundwaves. Endeavor literally punched AFO with a Flashfire Fist. I know he did this earlier with his Vanishing Fist attacks, but I like how Endeavor just made a flaming fist from his stump.
A calc that might upgrade Fat Gum and Unbreakable Kirishima's Lifting Strength to Class M. Not entirely sure if what I have here works at all.
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that scale to anyone else? Like the top ten or tokoyami (who broke from fatgum‘s hold)
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Top ten is a no go. They'd have to have actual reason to scale, being top ten isn't enough.
But I completely forgot Tokoyami was able to overpower Fat Gum's hold and escape him with Black Ankh. If this scales to Dark Shadow, would 100% Re-Destro scale as well? Since he nearly withstood Dark Shadow's Ragnarok, only failing because of his legs breaking.
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Yeah, he probably should.
would this also mean that anyone who can grapple Rappa/Unbreakable Kirishima would scale as well
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Rappa doesn't scale to this, since he's never grappled with them and this came from a punch. Which means this was his striking strength, which doesn't scale to Lifting Strength. It scales to Unbreakable Kirishima and Fat Gum because they aren't blown away by it, and holding your ground against a lot of force is Lifting Strength.
Also yes, anyone who grapples with Kirishima or Fat Gum, and aren't overpowered by them, would scale to this.
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thanks for explaining
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All the students did so shouldn't they have new keys?
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Makes sense considering how Kirishima performed against a casual Gigantomachia
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Also curious, what would the feat yield in AP?
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Yeah, in the future. Did someone imply the students weren't getting a new key? Though they need to actually have battles, we aren't going to make new keys that are basically the same beside being vaguely stronger by an unknown amount.
9-A or 0.11 Tons.
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Alright, the calc was accepted so will we make a CRT soon? It would affect:
Unbreakable Kirishima
Fat Gum
Tokoyami
Re-Destro
Tetsutetsu ?
Gevaudan from 1-B was able to overpower Unbreakable Kirishima and send him flying
Mirio is stated to be superior to all the students without quirks, so would he scale?
Unbreakable Kirishima
Fat Gum
Tokoyami
Re-Destro
Tetsutetsu ?
Gevaudan from 1-B was able to overpower Unbreakable Kirishima and send him flying
Mirio is stated to be superior to all the students without quirks, so would he scale?
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I remember hori saying that in an interview not sure how the site deals with that type of statement
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Mirio is stated to be superior without Quirks. For obvious reason he doesn't scale to any of the students when they're using their Quirks. Unless he has actual feats of overpowering them with his Lifting Strength. Tetsutetsu is a no go, he hasn't shown anything on par with what Unbreakable Kirishima can do.
Gevaudan is good, since Unbreakable Kirishima couldn't break out of his grasp quickly. And he stated Kirishima could match his strength.
Do Ibara's vines scale as well, since she was able to restrain Kirishima put him in jail? Or do we assume Kirishima couldn't hold Unbreakable anymore?
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Probably yes they scale
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Probably smth around wall level, unless we convert compressive strength in newtons to joules for some reason?, in which idk, probably 9-B+ i’m not good at this if you can’t tell.
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We’re going to have so many CRTs lmao
End of War CRT
High 6-C to Low 6-B CRT
Earthyboy speed feats CRT
Class M mid tiers CRT
I have a Class 50 feat I found that needs to become a blog, so that needs to become a CRT if accepted
End of War CRT
High 6-C to Low 6-B CRT
Earthyboy speed feats CRT
Class M mid tiers CRT
I have a Class 50 feat I found that needs to become a blog, so that needs to become a CRT if accepted
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Let's not jump into any CRT right now. Also I may have more possible Lifting Strength calc.
Fat Gum: (Held his ground against a barrage of Rappa's punch, with a single one being able to produce this much force)
Unbreakable: (Held his ground against a barrage of Rappa's punches, with a single one being able to produce this much force)
Tokoyami (Black Ankh War Arc): (Overpowered Fat Gum's hold)
Re-Destro: (Nearly withstood Tsukuyomi's Ragnarok, and only failed because his prosthetic legs broke)
Gevaudan (Beast): (Was able to hold Unbreakable Kirishima, and stated he could match his strength)
I'm uncertain with Ibara, since Kirishima reverted to his base form as he was falling.
Fat Gum: (Held his ground against a barrage of Rappa's punch, with a single one being able to produce this much force)
Unbreakable: (Held his ground against a barrage of Rappa's punches, with a single one being able to produce this much force)
Tokoyami (Black Ankh War Arc): (Overpowered Fat Gum's hold)
Re-Destro: (Nearly withstood Tsukuyomi's Ragnarok, and only failed because his prosthetic legs broke)
Gevaudan (Beast): (Was able to hold Unbreakable Kirishima, and stated he could match his strength)
I'm uncertain with Ibara, since Kirishima reverted to his base form as he was falling.
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