My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

[SuperStar]

Bro got flamed, I wouldn't try it again unless you've got some hard solid evidence for it

 

[TimmyTurnero]

God thats a horrible thread.
Someone even arguing that his precognition is limited by the amount of people wanting to go against it, like when the hell was that addressed in the manga?

 

[CloverDragon03]

I'm more concerned about the toxicity of the people in the thread, including a staff member.

Talk about unprofessional

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

I'm more concerned about the toxicity of the people in the thread, including a staff member.

Talk about unprofessional

The premise of the thread wasn’t the best but ppl were being so rude to the OP

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

God thats a horrible thread.
Some where even arguing that his precognition is limited by the amount of people wanting to go against it, like when the hell was that addressed in the manga?

The arguments for it were bad and so were the arguments against it

 

[SuperStar]

I mean, Damage did say if the topic was ever brought up again, it would be taken into serious consideration.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Knowing Bern, he made that thread because he was so bored (he also made High 3-A Kurohige because the similar reason)

But yeah, peoples who being rude to him in that thread wasn't better either

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Did my first calc using pixels and it was bad.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

I mean, Damage did say if the topic was ever brought up again, it would be taken into serious consideration.

Should've been taken serious the first time it was brought up

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Like, Nighteye quirk is stated to see the future, and even if you try to change the future, the timeline just automatically fixes itself. This means you can’t just divery from what he sees, the precognition is absolute. So I don’t understand how diverting from it, something describe as unchangeable (the future) isn’t fate hax

someone talk about this

 

[Therefir]

The power to change the future is something that everyone in the world of My Hero possesses, but at the same time cannot have individually.

The wishing energy of everyone involved in Eri's rescue was channeled into Deku, which allowed him to change Nighteye's foresight which up until now was absolute, but I don't think this is something Deku can do on his own.

 

[Damage3245]

Also, this is all just Nighteye's speculation anyway.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

The power to change the future is something that everyone in the world of My Hero possesses, but at the same time cannot have individually.

The wishing energy of everyone involved in Eri's rescue was channeled into Deku, which allowed him to change Nighteye's foresight which up until now was absolute, but I don't think this is something Deku can do on his own.

Thats why it is limited, because everyone has the energy, it just have to be built up to the point of changing the future.

 

[Therefir]

I really don't think the author's intention was to dismiss Nighteye's words as mere speculation, otherwise it would be useless to put it there and it would mean that Deku did actually change the future by himself.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Imagine getting AFO and AM clash at 7-A...

 

[SemiRaedi]

Hope Horikoshi pulls a Murata and draws a feat that is way stronger than it looks

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Can re destro at 100% be put at baseline Low 7-c? His current rating is 1.9x weaker than small town level if I did the math right. The reason is that he already stated his stress levels were decreasing and the blow that was at 100% was actually weaker than a 100% strike, tho by an unquantifiable amount. Then there's the fact that Tomura decayed a large portion of his attack, so much that it didn't really affect Tomura making the attack a lot weaker than it would have originally been. Then there's the fact that it was the shockwave that was this powerful, meaning the actual strike is far stronger than the calc.
So its like this
Re destro 100%> weaker state (one that did feat)>attack mostly destroyed by decay>calc being the result of a shockwave= at least 1.9x boost in power.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

It went from city level to High End Multi cityblock level?

 

[TimmyTurnero]

It went from city level to High End Multi cityblock level?

I messed up on the pixel scaling since it was my first time. So im not gonna post the calc. It'll just downgrade his current ratings.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Can re destro at 100% be put at baseline Low 7-c? His current rating is 1.9x weaker than small town level if I did the math right. The reason is that he already stated his stress levels were decreasing and the blow that was at 100% was actually weaker than a 100% strike, tho by an unquantifiable amount. Then there's the fact that Tomura decayed a large portion of his attack, so much that it didn't really affect Tomura making the attack a lot weaker than it would have originally been. Then there's the fact that it was the shockwave that was this powerful, meaning the actual strike is far stronger than the calc.
So its like this
Re destro 100%> weaker state (one that did feat)>attack mostly destroyed by decay>calc being the result of a shockwave= at least 1.9x boost in power.

I summon Therefir

 

[Therefir]

I got tomura crater at a radius of 874.9m.
Why does this matter? Well in the re Destro fight his shockwaved traveled all the way past Gigantomachia.

I know you said this, but the shock wave didn't reach Gigantomachia, there are even buildings in front of Machia that are still intact.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

I know you said this, but the shock wave didn't reach Gigantomachia, there are even buildings in front of Machia that are still intact.

All of it was wrong so it doesnt even matter, and no I was saying it went passed his direction.

 

[ÆONS]

Why the fu-

What on Earth was that thread.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

The power to change the future is something that everyone in the world of My Hero possesses, but at the same time cannot have individually.

The wishing energy of everyone involved in Eri's rescue was channeled into Deku, which allowed him to change Nighteye's foresight which up until now was absolute, but I don't think this is something Deku can do on his own.

Could we put on the profile for MHA itself that it possesses fate manipulation?

 

[ÆONS]

Could we put on the profile for MHA itself that it possesses fate manipulation?

And put none on the characters' profiles even for Deku? It would seem a bit sus IMO.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

And put none on the characters' profiles even for Deku? It would seem a bit sus IMO.

I’d advocate for Deku getting very limited fate manip but eh

 

[Emerald]

Send em

Here's the Aizawa calc, dont know if its good tho
That was my first time doing this

 

[Therefir]

Ripping a metal pipe out of a wall or something similar is a Class 5 feat, you probably got that result for using the whole volume of the pipe rather than just its thickness.

 

[Emerald]

Would it still be Class 5 if the pipe was forcefully removed from other two pipes?

 

[SuperStar]

What on Earth was that thread.

Honestly people don’t take mha serious when you have potential powerful abilities

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Honestly people don’t take mha serious when you have potential powerful abilities

There’s a bias that inevitably comes into play with a lot of people, which is more evident on TikTok. People will immediately disregard MHA characters outputting relatively high AP feats and/or having good hax

 

[Mageman460]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/deku-fate-hax-or-resistance-to-it.119849/

Someone really should redo that thread tbh ... all the complaints about it are completely unfounded and using different series as examples to "disprove" Nighteye's quirk. I think there were some more statement on Nighteye's quirk that could be used to back it up as well.

Oh but Nighteye doesn't get any extra Fate Manipulation. Saw someone mention that.

When there is one potential future, creating a new future should be considered Fate Manipulation right? Cause that's what is happening here.
Granted the Fate Manipulation isn't really combat applicable for MHA characters.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Someone really should redo that thread tbh ... all the complaints about it are completely unfounded and using different series as examples to "disprove" Nighteye's quirk. I think there were some more statement on Nighteye's quirk that could be used to back it up as well.

Oh but Nighteye doesn't get any extra Fate Manipulation. Saw someone mention that.

When there is one potential future, creating a new future should be considered Fate Manipulation right? Cause that's what is happening here.
Granted the Fate Manipulation isn't really combat applicable for MHA characters.

Yeah it’s not really usable in a combat setting but still a cool attribute

 

[SuperStar]

Yeah it’s not really usable in a combat setting but still a cool attribute

Why is it not combat usable?

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Why is it not combat usable?

Hasn’t really been depicted to do much, outside of Deku supposedly circumventing his fate

 

[Theendzero13]

I mean they did change fate to a limited extent so i don't see why not limited fate manipulation

 

[ÆONS]

Someone really should redo that thread tbh ... all the complaints about it are completely unfounded and using different series as examples to "disprove" Nighteye's quirk. I think there were some more statement on Nighteye's quirk that could be used to back it up as well.

Oh but Nighteye doesn't get any extra Fate Manipulation. Saw someone mention that.

When there is one potential future, creating a new future should be considered Fate Manipulation right? Cause that's what is happening here.
Granted the Fate Manipulation isn't really combat applicable for MHA characters.

Makes sense.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

I agree with the basis of Deku having limited fate manipulation, I just think we’d need solid evidence in the thread to back it

 

[Therefir]

That's gonna be a mess, and probably not the best idea considering the power itself requires outside help.

 

[Zezu1995]

i agree with therefir... i dont think we should go into this..