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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Hold on hold on hold on, for deku lifting the steel beam why not do the acceleration of the newtons of him moving it up? I'll do it rn.
 
TimmyTurnero said:
Lets ******* do it
also i edited it accordingly. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:TimmyTurnero/Shigaraki_implodes?venotify=created Large town level now.
I seriously dropped all the way from large mountain level to large town level.
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Had a feeling there was something seriously off when Tomura’s cloud dispersion somehow got much higher results than Stars and Stripes’ cloud dispersion which dispersed clouds in a much wider area compared to the explosion.
 
Peter1129 said:
Had a feeling there was something seriously off when Tomura’s cloud dispersion somehow got much higher results than Stars and Stripes’ cloud dispersion which dispersed clouds in a much wider area compared to the explosion.
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That should've been a little higher honestly. The time frame is 1 second because Shigaraki couldn't react to the attack, or hit the ground before the clouds dispersed. But we all know Shigaraki's reaction time is greater than one ******* second. And with the amount of force Star was hitting him with, he would've been sent into the ocean in milliseconds.
 
Earthyboy said:
That should've been a little higher honestly. The time frame is 1 second because Shigaraki couldn't react to the attack, or hit the ground before the clouds dispersed. But we all know Shigaraki's reaction time is greater than one ******* second. And with the amount of force Star was hitting him with, he would've been sent into the ocean in milliseconds.
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Ill make a blog adding additional timeframes. Low end being superhuman and high end being a timeframe assuming his reactions is just SOS
 
Star’s giant is invisible to the naked eye so of course Shigaraki couldn’t “react” to it. There’s nothing to react to. And also she seems to punch him with an upward angle so I don’t think calcing the feat ”before he begins to fall” makes that much sense since he’s going upwards slightly, not parallel or down.
 
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AtomicSekiro said:
And also she seems to punch him with an upward angle so I don’t think calcing the feat ”before he begins to fall” makes that much sense since he’s going upwards slightly, not parallel or down.
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After the punch she crushed Shigaraki with both hands, so he should be falling normally.
 
Therefir said:
After the punch she crushed Shigaraki with both hands, so he should be falling normally.
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But he was crushed and held between the giant hands for a time, so he couldn‘t fall. We don’t see when Star released him. Star and her jet can’t he seen during the clap but when she begins to swing the laser they’re right next to him. The timeframe is a bit iffy.
 
Metalballrun said:
I completely forgot this detail from the movie, but where did Wolfram even get all those metals from to create his metal cubes?
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Apparently the tower. It's a miracle it didn't collapse. But again it seemed as if once he got on the Quirk Enhancing Device, multiple metallic wires, tubes, pillars, etc all popped out of nowhere as if he was multiplying/creating the extra metal.
 
It's about time Shigaraki got or used a speed quirk.

Like right now people are wanking Shigaraki but I don't think people realize how outmatched he is by current Deku. Like he is far outmatched speed-wise.

War arc: Deku - Black Whip, Float + 45% Full Cowl combo was already too fast for Shigaraki to even react. He could not outspeed Black Whip in straight up movement speed. In the end he ended up being played like a ping pong by Deku.

Right now: Deku - 45%, Black Whip (literally one of Deku's fastest abilities), Fa Jin combine for Faux 100%. Throw in Danger Sense for reactions and will Shigaraki even be able to tag Deku?

With Faux 100% it is ridiculously above like everyone. Iida is fast enough to keep up with 2 High-ends and said to be faster than Gran Torino who was matching war arc Shigaraki just fine; Bakugo even when injured was fast enough to be relevant in the Near High-end battle and not get tagged; Shoto's Flashfreeze Heatwave matched Deku's 100% air force during the Sports Festival so using it to launch something should result in insane speeds.

And it's not just these 3 but like 10 kids combined their quirks in order to catch up to Faux 100% all going all out.

Mina took care of the friction, Ochako removed their gravity which should have made them way faster as they were now weightless.

The characters with superstrength assisted in the initial launch, etc. And they even had an ice ramp to make the launch even smoother. Like the sheer speed these kids must have reached is ridiculous and that's what it took to catch up with a worn out Faux 100% Deku.

I think Shigaraki will need like 3 powerful speed quirks minimum to keep up with Faux 100%. Even Overclock as it currently stands in Vigilantes doesn't cut it, he needs way more speed boosters.
 
Well, the limit of Faux 100% is that he can only do it a few times before needing to charge up Fa Jin to do it again.

The real problem for Shigaraki is when Deku uses the actual 100% again. At that point he just gets shit on unless he manages to steal New Order to give him more stats or has new quirks to compensate. If nothing has changed since the war arc for his quirks or statistics, then yeah, he and AFO are toast if Deku gets near them with all his quirks now unlocked.

But remember, they are villains. AFO very obviously has some kind of plan for Deku to not obliterate them, he’s kind of a genius at reading people. He won’t let the fight be fair at all.
 
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Shigaraki only ever got tagged by Deku when he used 100% and/or when his body was failing and weakening.

100% or Faux 100% > Shigaraki‘s All Might tier speed >>> 45% Deku.

Shigaraki doesn’t even need a speed advantage given how ungodly tanky he is. Shigaraki is still faster than Deku’s limits without Fa Jin with BASE PHYSICALS, he doesn’t need a speed quirk. XD
 
Gitagon said:
I forgot this place thinks Deku can use Full Cowl 100%
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He /can/, in specific circumstances, he just /doesn’t/, or he faces death.

Given he’s at a 45% limit and 100% does a LOT less damage now, it’s not entirely outlandish that he could currently hold Full Cowling 100% for a few seconds and survive.
 
Gitagon might be referring to the Heroes Rising finale where Deku turns into a human lightbulb, AKA Full Cowl 100%. Which probably lasted more than a few seconds. Something Deku also never does in the manga yet (except maybe when he raged?).
 
AtomicSekiro said:
Katsuma’s quirk enforced the strength of his cells temporarily so he and Bakugo could use 100% Full Cowling.

Deku doesn’t exactly have Katsuma on speed dial.
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Where/When was this stated? I don't remember anything that says Katsuma's Quirk temporarily increases their cells and that is what let him use Full Cowl 100%?

Apologies if this can be found easily, my memory might be bad right now.
 
It’s not stated that Katsuma allowed them to use FC 100%, though he did make their bodies stronger.

It’s also never stated that using FC 100% will just kill Deku in a few moments. That is the assumed reason for why Deku doesn’t use FC 100%, even though when FC 100% was introduced, Deku doesn’t ever use 100% in the manga again until vs Shigaraki.

FC 100% breaks his whole body, but he’s a pain sponge so he just ignores it, especially since when he’s using 100%, he’s going Plus Ultra. So he should be capable of FC 100% whenever he wants, but only for a little while until his body can’t keep up with his will.

In the movie, he uses FC 100%, but only for a punch rush and a kick, all while blitzing Flect Turn. So he used it for at best a few seconds there.
 
Metalballrun said:
Gitagon might be referring to the Heroes Rising finale where Deku turns into a human lightbulb, AKA Full Cowl 100%. Which probably lasted more than a few seconds. Something Deku also never does in the manga yet (except maybe when he raged?).
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Movies are canon to the manga.

Anything movie Deku can do, Manga Deku can do too
 
Metalballrun said:
Gitagon might be referring to the Heroes Rising finale where Deku turns into a human lightbulb, AKA Full Cowl 100%. Which probably lasted more than a few seconds. Something Deku also never does in the manga yet (except maybe when he raged?).
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It's because here people take blue lighting as automatic Full Cowl 100% despite stuff not adding up.

Like how can it be considered Full Cowl 100% if Deku's arms are breaking but his legs aren't. And while his limbs can be patched up after he uses 100% in them, the situation would be completely different if Deku activates 100% in body parts with actual fragile and irreplaceable organs like the brain or heart.
 
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AtomicSekiro said:
Katsuma’s quirk enforced the strength of his cells temporarily so he and Bakugo could use 100% Full Cowling.

Deku doesn’t exactly have Katsuma on speed dial.
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But their arms broke from the actual 100% moves they used. How do you guys even interprete Full Cowl here. Full Cowl is OFA spread out all over Deku's entire body.

If 100% breaks Deku's arms then Deku and Bakugo would have broken their legs if they actually ran at100% and worse what about their hearts and brains. Broken arm bones can be fixed but the head?
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
It’s not stated that Katsuma allowed them to use FC 100%, though he did make their bodies stronger.

It’s also never stated that using FC 100% will just kill Deku in a few moments. That is the assumed reason for why Deku doesn’t use FC 100%, even though when FC 100% was introduced, Deku doesn’t ever use 100% in the manga again until vs Shigaraki.

FC 100% breaks his whole body, but he’s a pain sponge so he just ignores it, especially since when he’s using 100%, he’s going Plus Ultra. So he should be capable of FC 100% whenever he wants, but only for a little while until his body can’t keep up with his will.

In the movie, he uses FC 100%, but only for a punch rush and a kick, all while blitzing Flect Turn. So he used it for at best a few seconds there.
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Only reason people say this is because people are equating blue anime lightning to Full Cowl 100%. Did Deku even break his arms against Flect to say he used 100% let alone Full Cowl 100%.

Also given the damage Deku's limbs take from using 100% in the war arc I just don't see how anyone can say he is using Full Cowl 100%. Arm and leg bones can be patched up but what about Deku's cranium, his brain, his internal organs.

Like it should literally be impossible for Deku to use 100% anywhere near his torso or head otherwise he's dead.
 
Gitagon said:
It's because here people take blue lighting as automatic Full Cowl 100% despite stuff not adding up.

Like how can it be considered Full Cowl 100% if Deku's arms are breaking but his legs aren't. And while his limbs can be patched up after he uses 100% in them, the situation would be completely different if Deku activates 100% in body parts with actual fragile and irreplaceable body parts like the brain or heart.
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His legs are breaking, they’re just under his clothes which don’t show their state.

The better question is do you think anyone attempting to write a story would put in that sort of logic for his power up against a final boss type character? Suspend your disbelief friend. This is the same manga where you can be fully impaled through the stomach and walk it off, and where you cough up blood from a hard hit to the stomach. Are you going to argue that Aizawa should be dead after getting his face bashed into concrete so hard the concrete broke and destroyed his eyes?

Please name any shonen anime that takes brain injuries that seriously for power ups. This is fiction at the end of the day. It’s not going to be 1:1 with reality. You’re arguing something that a writer simply would not and should not care about for their big climax fight.
 
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