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Multiversal+ Character vs Athlete Level Character (Heaven DIO vs The Stalker)
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What do you mean? It is resistance. Also the "nobody but him can move", come on with that, might aswell say Ganon is invincible via similar statement.Eficiente said:
It's resistance to diavolo's time erasure. It resisted having it's time getting erased. So while the whole world got it's time erased, Diavolo's and GER's time stayed the same and were therefore able to move. GER resists time erasure, easy as that.
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Moving in a place with no time is considered to be Infinite speed.
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Yeah...and resistance. Dude you can resist having your time erased. So Diavolo has infinite speed too then, since he could move in erased time? No. The time is erased from the universe, so the universe has no time, you still do, your time wasn't affected because you RESISTED having your time erased (by you i mean GER).Xtasyamphetamine said:
You can't just compare hax to a true void kind of place. Hax is still hax and it can be resisted, it differs from our definition of true voids. Because true voids have no time, there just isn't, time just doesn't work, doesn't pass there, while with hax you just did something to someone or something and achieved a result, that "did something" can be easily resisted and therefore have it's effects negated.
Again hax and true voids are not the same thing.
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King Crimson allows Diavolo to move there, as said by him.
>"The time is erased from the universe, so the universe has no time, you still do, your time wasn't affected because you RESISTED having your time erased (by you i mean GER)."
And then what? You move in places that also don't have time how? Your magical resistence also prevented those places from having their time erased? No.
>"You can't just compare hax to a true void kind of place"
Watch me; Diavolo's time shenanigans place has the statements and consistency, therefore it is acceptable. "It's just hax lol" isn't an argument.
>"The time is erased from the universe, so the universe has no time, you still do, your time wasn't affected because you RESISTED having your time erased (by you i mean GER)."
And then what? You move in places that also don't have time how? Your magical resistence also prevented those places from having their time erased? No.
>"You can't just compare hax to a true void kind of place"
Watch me; Diavolo's time shenanigans place has the statements and consistency, therefore it is acceptable. "It's just hax lol" isn't an argument.
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>You move in places that don't have time how?
What do you even mean? The thing that's stoping people from moving in "true voids" is not "lack of time on the place" it's lack of time on you. V=S/t that is the formula for your velocity. In a true void there exists no time, there is nothing to resist in a true void because it isn't like you having time is being erased, it's more like you went to a place where it doesn't exist. So in a true void you have no time to be able to move, it's essentially 0 (because a time that doesn't flow is 0). In 0 time it is impossible to move, unless you are infinite. In hax however, like in Diavolo's case you DID have time, and so did your surroundings. Now the time gets erased for your surroundings, not for you because you are like "no you ain't touching me with that weak stuff", so you still have your time. Your time still exists, no matter where you go, you still have time because whatever was used to erase time wasn't strong enough to work on you. Your time still exists and therefore the formula
V=S/t still can be applied without infinite speed, because you still have time. The time of the surroundings doesn't matter. It's not the surroundings that stop you from moving, it's the inability to apply the speed formula due to your lack of time.
>Statements and consistency.
It's not them that make anything true. Goku has consistency of being strong, so he is tier 1A with tons of hax cus consistency. He is consistent and has statements or whatever for "he erases time" not "nothing without infinite speed can move here and i negate ALL kinds of resistance" kind of consistency and statement.
What do you even mean? The thing that's stoping people from moving in "true voids" is not "lack of time on the place" it's lack of time on you. V=S/t that is the formula for your velocity. In a true void there exists no time, there is nothing to resist in a true void because it isn't like you having time is being erased, it's more like you went to a place where it doesn't exist. So in a true void you have no time to be able to move, it's essentially 0 (because a time that doesn't flow is 0). In 0 time it is impossible to move, unless you are infinite. In hax however, like in Diavolo's case you DID have time, and so did your surroundings. Now the time gets erased for your surroundings, not for you because you are like "no you ain't touching me with that weak stuff", so you still have your time. Your time still exists, no matter where you go, you still have time because whatever was used to erase time wasn't strong enough to work on you. Your time still exists and therefore the formula
V=S/t still can be applied without infinite speed, because you still have time. The time of the surroundings doesn't matter. It's not the surroundings that stop you from moving, it's the inability to apply the speed formula due to your lack of time.
>Statements and consistency.
It's not them that make anything true. Goku has consistency of being strong, so he is tier 1A with tons of hax cus consistency. He is consistent and has statements or whatever for "he erases time" not "nothing without infinite speed can move here and i negate ALL kinds of resistance" kind of consistency and statement.
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It's called exageration, not false equivalency.Yobobojojo said:
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If time doesn't exist and you can still move, it is infinite speed.
v = s/t
=> v = s/0 (since t = 0 in a timeless space)
=> v = infinity (since any number divided by 0 is infinity)
v = s/t
=> v = s/0 (since t = 0 in a timeless space)
=> v = infinity (since any number divided by 0 is infinity)
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The dude literally predates time. He has literally existed before time itself. That's enough of a feat.Eficiente said:
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The above is applicable for indefinitely stopped time as well.
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I-I know...that was literally what i said. Though that applies to your time, not surroundings time. If your time resisted erasure there is no reason for you to be unable to move.TacticalNuke002 said:
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Sure. I just put it here to make sure that my point was correct. I wanted to know whether that's all there is to it, so like if there was any feat i was missing and stuff.Eficiente said:
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He literally says "he predates time". He existed when time was not a thing, when there wasn't a concept to create the velocity formula.Eficiente said:
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Being made out of a concept and being made out of a number are not the same thing. Also i don't even know the dude so can we not start comparing?Eficiente said:
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.this seems like a stomp on DIO's favor..How stalker's soul manipulation works?
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He can interact with other people's souls. Also, just a reminder that DIO does not have accausality
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I guess DIO thinks if I'm not mistaken
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I have no idea the votes but is that FRA?
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Is any of The Stalker's abilities thought based?
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Most of it is automatic as opposed to thought based. Iirc his time travel is tho
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What can save him from being erased while being frozen in time?
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DIO not erasing from a distance as an opener in character
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