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Introduction
Ha get punked losers! This thread is not about AP or stats at all. This thread is to propose that the Almighty (its fate manip and precog) and Muken Aizen's KS (its illusion creation and perception manip) are 4D (2-A) hax.
In chapter 677, Yhwach explains what he can see with the Almighty. He consistently mentions how there are countless futures akin to the countless grains of sand or possibilities, in reference to the infinite possibilities people possess with what they can do and become in the future. Countless, as defined by Oxford Languages, as "too many to be counted" and is synonymous with phrases such as "incalculable/immeasurable/endless/infinite numbers of". Furthermore, CFYOW goes out of its way to confirm there are indeed infinite future timelines. The last bit of support comes from Giriko referencing the infinite torrents of time, indicating infinite futures exist. Multiverse level+ being defined as affecting an infinite amount of space-times. So, Yhwach is claiming there are an uncountable amount of, to possibly infinite future timelines that he can perceive with his Almighty. Hence, Yhwach's Almighty has 2-A Precognition.
In chapter 679, Yhwach claims he is able to intervene and affect every single one of those innumerably vast, to possibly infinite number of futures that he sees with his Almighty, a sentiment that is echoed by Rukia in chapter 681. Rukia would have gotten this knowledge from Orihime, who got the knowledge from Yhwach, and as such should be a reputable source considering Yhwach would know his ability best. With what is established prior, Yhwach's Almighty would have 2-A Fate Manipulation.
In chapters 683 and 684, we learn that Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu is able to hypnotize Yhwach's Almighty's sight. To do this, Aizen would have to place illusions in every single possible future Yhwach can see. As established earlier, that would require Aizen to craft illusions in an innumerable, to possibly infinite amount of future timelines. Therefore, Muken Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu, which at this point is an extension of his body and being, has 2-A Perception Manipulation and Illusion Creation.
Conclusion
Almighty and KS are nutty, unfortunately One Piece solos via speed blitz Ryuo dura neg with conceptual haki via will being inherently abstract. Here's what it would look like on profiles, credits to Arcker:
Yhwach: Precognition and Fate Manipulation (4D - Multiversal+ - The Almighty allows Yhwach to see everything clearly from the present into the distant future. Yhwach can see events in the near future, such as seeing the resurrection of Ichibē Hyōsube. The Almighty was also used by the to foresee events several centuries into the future, such as perceiving the death of the Soul King. Yhwach can see all possible futures like grains of sand on a beach. The true power of The Almighty is to “transform the future itself.” Yhwach is capable of changing and influencing all of the futures that he sees. The Almighty allows Yhwach to cut down any fate his opponent may make for themselves. The number of futures that Yhwach can manipulate are repeatedly stated to be infinite.)
Aizen: Illusion Creation and Perception Manipulation with Kyōka Suigetsu (While under Kyoka Suigetsu’s Complete Hypnosis, Aizen can control his opponent’s 5 standard senses, spiritual perception/reikaku, and sense of time. 4D - Multiversal+ in the Thousand Year Blood War - Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu was able to manipulate Yhwach's vision of the future)
Soul King: Precognition and Fate Manipulation (4D - Multiversal+ - Possesses an Almighty comparable if not superior to Yhwach’s)
Agree: Shiroyasha, Maverick, Shadow, Warren, Slayer (bordering neutral), Tracer
Disagree: DueDate (except Precog)
Neutral: KLOL (leaning agree)
Ha get punked losers! This thread is not about AP or stats at all. This thread is to propose that the Almighty (its fate manip and precog) and Muken Aizen's KS (its illusion creation and perception manip) are 4D (2-A) hax.
Scans
- Rukia/Orihime comments about what they learned from Yhwach on the Almighty
- Yhwach explains the Almighty
- Kyoka Suigetsu messes with the Almighty's sight
Translations
- ここから先の未来全てで折られたものを“拒絶”で消す事はできねという事か
- "You’re saying your “rejection” can’t erase something broken in every future from this point." ~ Rukia Chapter 681
- 未来とはここより先にばら撒かれた無数の砂のようなもの
- "The future is like countless grains of sand scattered from this point." ~ Yhwach Chapter 677
- その一見ばらばらに見える無数の砂粒の一つ一つが“未来”だ
- "Each one of those seemingly isolated, countless grains of sand is a "future"." ~ Yhwach Chapter 677
- それは言い換えれば無数の“可能性”とも言える
- "They are countless "possibilities", to put it in other words." ~ Yhwach Chapter 677
- 私はこの眼に映る未来の全てに干渉できるだけの事だ
- "I am only able to intervene in every future reflected in these eyes." ~ Yhwach Chapter 679
Argument
The claims for this argument upgrading the potency of Yhwach's Almighty hax and Muken Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu hax are: 1) Yhwach's Almighty has 4D (2-A) Fate Manipulation and Precognition, 2) Muken Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu has 4D (2-A) Perception Manipulation and Illusion Creation.In chapter 677, Yhwach explains what he can see with the Almighty. He consistently mentions how there are countless futures akin to the countless grains of sand or possibilities, in reference to the infinite possibilities people possess with what they can do and become in the future. Countless, as defined by Oxford Languages, as "too many to be counted" and is synonymous with phrases such as "incalculable/immeasurable/endless/infinite numbers of". Furthermore, CFYOW goes out of its way to confirm there are indeed infinite future timelines. The last bit of support comes from Giriko referencing the infinite torrents of time, indicating infinite futures exist. Multiverse level+ being defined as affecting an infinite amount of space-times. So, Yhwach is claiming there are an uncountable amount of, to possibly infinite future timelines that he can perceive with his Almighty. Hence, Yhwach's Almighty has 2-A Precognition.
In chapter 679, Yhwach claims he is able to intervene and affect every single one of those innumerably vast, to possibly infinite number of futures that he sees with his Almighty, a sentiment that is echoed by Rukia in chapter 681. Rukia would have gotten this knowledge from Orihime, who got the knowledge from Yhwach, and as such should be a reputable source considering Yhwach would know his ability best. With what is established prior, Yhwach's Almighty would have 2-A Fate Manipulation.
In chapters 683 and 684, we learn that Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu is able to hypnotize Yhwach's Almighty's sight. To do this, Aizen would have to place illusions in every single possible future Yhwach can see. As established earlier, that would require Aizen to craft illusions in an innumerable, to possibly infinite amount of future timelines. Therefore, Muken Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu, which at this point is an extension of his body and being, has 2-A Perception Manipulation and Illusion Creation.
Conclusion
Almighty and KS are nutty, unfortunately One Piece solos via speed blitz Ryuo dura neg with conceptual haki via will being inherently abstract. Here's what it would look like on profiles, credits to Arcker:
Yhwach: Precognition and Fate Manipulation (4D - Multiversal+ - The Almighty allows Yhwach to see everything clearly from the present into the distant future. Yhwach can see events in the near future, such as seeing the resurrection of Ichibē Hyōsube. The Almighty was also used by the to foresee events several centuries into the future, such as perceiving the death of the Soul King. Yhwach can see all possible futures like grains of sand on a beach. The true power of The Almighty is to “transform the future itself.” Yhwach is capable of changing and influencing all of the futures that he sees. The Almighty allows Yhwach to cut down any fate his opponent may make for themselves. The number of futures that Yhwach can manipulate are repeatedly stated to be infinite.)
Aizen: Illusion Creation and Perception Manipulation with Kyōka Suigetsu (While under Kyoka Suigetsu’s Complete Hypnosis, Aizen can control his opponent’s 5 standard senses, spiritual perception/reikaku, and sense of time. 4D - Multiversal+ in the Thousand Year Blood War - Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu was able to manipulate Yhwach's vision of the future)
Soul King: Precognition and Fate Manipulation (4D - Multiversal+ - Possesses an Almighty comparable if not superior to Yhwach’s)
Agree: Shiroyasha, Maverick, Shadow, Warren, Slayer (bordering neutral), Tracer
Disagree: DueDate (except Precog)
Neutral: KLOL (leaning agree)
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