Movie Pennywise Rewrite

[Gewsbumpz_dude]

This thread is exactly what the title suggests.

Here is where you can find the changes, check them out and give your opinion on them.

And while you're at it, take a look at this pure example of shameless self-promotion.

 

[Cropfist]

Would IT scale to the meteor that brought it to Earth?

 

[Gewsbumpz_dude]

Actually you just got me thinking that, because that might actually be legit since he survived the meteor impact undamaged and went on a killing spree soon after

 

[SamanPatou]

Agree with almost anything, but not Soul Manipulation
But first, a couple of things
Paul Bounian was an illusion, but this doesn't affect the additions.
The liquid would be more like a mix of Water Manipulation (liquid manipulation doesn't exists, but water manip is the closest power) and heat manipulation
Resistance to pain shouldn't be explained by the fire thing (since it was its own fire), but by the fact that he took a pole through the head without flinching should be enough, as well as all the other wounds it withstood
Organic manipulation is already covered by Blood Manipulation, which is in the profile.

Unfortunately, the movie doesn't explain well what the Deadlights are (and we can't automatically take the explanation from the book). I agree that they are likely Pennywise's true form, "core", or another weird thing, but turning it into resistance to Soul Manipulation requires to much assumptions

 

[Gewsbumpz_dude]

By Soul Manipulation are you talking about Soul Absorption or his Resistance to Soul Manipulation? Or both?

If its the latter, either way I feel like it would warrant the resistance since The Deadlights can be considered either an unconventional soul or not a soul at all

 

[SamanPatou]

I'm talking of resistance to Soul Manipulation, I agree with soul absorption.
The problem is that it is based on generous assumptions, maybe a "Possible" could be placed, as a compromise

 

[Gewsbumpz_dude]

Alrighty then

 

[SamanPatou]

Does anyone want to say something else?

 

[Gewsbumpz_dude]

I'm trying to get people to talk on both of my CRTs, pretty obvious that I'm not being so lucky.

 

[SamanPatou]

Well, let's wait until tomorrow, and if no one has objections then the changes will be applied

 

[Gewsbumpz_dude]

Great

 

[Antvasima]

Can somebody summarise what you want to do here in a rather quickly understood manner please?

 

[SamanPatou]

I don't know if this is quick enough, but a lot of things are being requested

• Adding "Consistently shows to be unaffected by darkness" to the already present Enhanced Senses, which at the moment is described as "Mostly when it takes the form of an animal, like a dog. Can smell fear"
• Adding Morality Manipulation next to the already present "Mind Manipulation (Throughout both movies he seems to have control over the residence of Derry, such as when he decided to torment Richie, making the surrounding people sway to his singing. This ability can also be achieved through his deadlights)"
• Heat Manipulation and Pseudo Water Manipulation (Constantly creates a black liquid that burns whatever it touches)
• Stealth Mastery (Sneaks around Derry, getting away with murder and performing ambush attacks)
• Possibly Soul Absorption (Seemingly trapped a boy's soul within The Deadlights. A child is heard yelling for help when it revealed The Deadlights to The Losers Club)
• Limited Gravity Manipulation (Its own blood floats. Made several dead bodies and various pieces of garbage float)
• Large Size (Type 0; When in spider form)
• Creation (Created various objects like balloons, dolls, etc...)
• Dream Manipulation (Gave adult Beverly dreams about her and the rest of The Losers Club being killed or die like Stanley). This can be put alongside Alternate Future Display
• Smoke Manipulation (The Deadlights created what seems to be smoke upon being unleashed)
• Fire Manipulation (Set its own head on fire)
• Light Manipulation (Has control over The Deadlights, which emanate light. Can also project them through its eyes and mouth)
• Resistance to Pain (Shown no signs of pain when its head was pierced by a pole or set on fire)
• Possibly Resistance to Soul Manipulation (The Deadlights, which are separated from the main body, might be its real self and they hold some sort of connection with it)
• Update the Intelligence section "Above Average, possibly Gifted (Skilled in manipulation and stealth. Can come up with ways to scare its prey with relative ease. Outsmarts The Losers Club on multiple occasions. Is extremely ancient, being millions of years old. Has been getting away with murder for centuries). The current section says "High (Manipulative and skillfully utilizes his victim's worst fears to his advantage. Is extremely ancient)"

I took the liberty to make changes from the original blog, like some explanations and link, but this is what I and Gewsbumpz agree on, nothing more and nothing less

While making this summary I realized that there are some things about the AP and a couple of other things that I'd like to discuss (and one about the AP is already in this CRT) but I feel that those other questions warrant a CRT of their own (I can make it myself after this).

Even if this gets accepted, I'll wait for Gewsbumpz opinion on how I adapted the changes

 

[Gewsbumpz_dude]

What Saman said is basically everything apart from the new tiering stuff. Except the Limited Gravity Manipulation is passive since the garbage and corpses floating in his lair continued to float while he is off doing his own thing in Derry, Maine.

 

[SamanPatou]

I think that the tiering stuff should be debated in another thread, because I want to give some personal input about it, and this is already filled with a lot of things.
We can start the new one after after we finish this

 

[Gewsbumpz_dude]

I don't see what is wrong with it but ok

 

[SamanPatou]

It more about the wording of it, instead of changing it.
Making a CRT at time helps to properly organize and keep track of things.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that the listed suggestions seem fine to apply.

 

[SamanPatou]

@Gewsbumpz You know, you're right and maybe another thread isn't necessary, I'd say that we can continue here, since the big block of powers has been accepted.
My concern came from the fact that I didn't remember well the size of Penny's spider form, so nevermind.
I believed that it was much smaller, and since Paul Bunyan was likely an illusion, I had some problem with 9-A, even though I'm strongly convinced that it could surely become Paul Bunyan. I tend to be very strict when judging things.
The only thing for which I'm still dubious is the wording. The base form should be included in the "varies" or treated as a separate part of the text? It's a very minor thing, I know. Also, I'd keep the 9-A part that comes from its death separated from the others, because it's not related to its form, it just happens. It wasn't even a spider when it died.

 

[Gewsbumpz_dude]

I changed the part with the Well House thing.

And I'm pretty sure its main form, Pennywise the Clown, should be part of its own separate text, so exactly how it is. It is essentially his base form, and we already have profiles with this sort of style.

 

[SamanPatou]

Ok then, since this is not an actual tier change, it can be applied immediately

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. Tell me here when I should close this thread.

 

[SamanPatou]

Done, everything should be fine. I also replaced a dead link and all the "his" with "its"

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you. Should I close this thread?

 

[SamanPatou]

Yes, everything is done, thank you

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.