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Mortal Kombat 1 Discussion Thread
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Any 9-A MK characters I can use against hunter?
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Powerscaling brainrot is part of general plot consistency at times, in the main story Baraka could punch down iron doors, here Sektor's blade barely scratches a rusty ass door.
It's like Geras being incapacitated by some random chains in MK11, they were heavy, but even a real person could probably have wiggled out of 'em.
It doesn't take too much to keep consistency, honestly, Tekken and SF did it in their own cinematic stories. See Kazuya (almost) busting an island busting or Steve waving through bullets in Tekken 8, or Chun-Li knocking down a giant metal door and the cast casually jump down from helicopters hundreds of meter into the air.
MK kinda does the biggest offense, because some characters are presented as gods and abominations, and then they fall for the stupidest shit.
I honestly don't see any tier 2 feats in Invasions, burning and freezing timelines sounds more like a metaphor to me, not unlike the various hyperboles about destroying the world etc...
We also have to consider we never see them doing it, and Scorpion was literally berserk, he could have done it anytime if he could have.
Titan Mileena also is probably dead, but it she is, she was likely killed either by bullets or by orbital laser.
It's like Geras being incapacitated by some random chains in MK11, they were heavy, but even a real person could probably have wiggled out of 'em.
It doesn't take too much to keep consistency, honestly, Tekken and SF did it in their own cinematic stories. See Kazuya (almost) busting an island busting or Steve waving through bullets in Tekken 8, or Chun-Li knocking down a giant metal door and the cast casually jump down from helicopters hundreds of meter into the air.
MK kinda does the biggest offense, because some characters are presented as gods and abominations, and then they fall for the stupidest shit.
Yes, it's like Titan Raiden needing the Jinsei to bust 'em all or raising a barrier, or Liu Kang, Shang Tsung and Kronika needing the hourglass to reboot or destroy even a single one.
I honestly don't see any tier 2 feats in Invasions, burning and freezing timelines sounds more like a metaphor to me, not unlike the various hyperboles about destroying the world etc...
We also have to consider we never see them doing it, and Scorpion was literally berserk, he could have done it anytime if he could have.
Titan Mileena also is probably dead, but it she is, she was likely killed either by bullets or by orbital laser.
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1) The Jinsei thing is a chain reaction, that's true 2) Kronika did need to charge the Hourglass but was that a thing with Shang in the story mode? At the very least, we have Shang and Liu creating divergent timelines with their battle in Aftermath 3) Perhaps so but it lines up with the references to "devouring" or "destroying timelines" that we see and the sheer repetition makes me think it's something that is intended by the developers. 4) We don't get hard confirmation as to her death, all we know is her hybrids were being rounded up though many remain at large (this is also the only appearance of the orbital cannon so it has no anti-feats for being on a Titan's level) 5) This still ignores that Havik has conquered and absorbed timelines into his own before without seemingly needing the Kamidogu
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Unrelated; but is anyone disappointed TItan Havik's skin doesn't seem to have a Deception palette? That shit would be perfect
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Titan Shang Tsung also wanted to absorb Liu Kang's timeline, but iirc he needed the hourglass, that's why he set up the entire ordeal and deception.
Havik's might have done the same, or may still have used Geras's time crystals, since we know he is aware of them and is probably his standard M.O., as seen with other timelines he ravaged.
It is also unclear whether he has absorbed all of them, because the kamidogus were supposedly meant to spread khaos in all the timelines related to each Geras absorbed into them, and that would be moot if all of them had already be integrated into Havik's.
A 2-C/B/A character should be supposed to destroy/alter/affect the related construct with ease and especially on their own, but right now they always required an item or a man-made portal, like those in the Yin valley.
Splitting the timelines might honestly be a matter of space-time hax tbh, it was the first time two time titans ever fought, making it a sort of paradox (Liu Kang wasn't a titan yet whe he killed Kronika), and it was the only time such an event occurred, even when a hundred different titans started duking out, marking it as a singularity.
The orbital cannon causes something like 6-C levels of damage, calling it tier 2 is kinda disingenous, considering how vague the strength of the titans is in the first place.
It's more immediate to say the cannon is 6-C and an anti-feat, rather than calling it tier 2, while also built by the Special Forces without magic.
Havik's might have done the same, or may still have used Geras's time crystals, since we know he is aware of them and is probably his standard M.O., as seen with other timelines he ravaged.
It is also unclear whether he has absorbed all of them, because the kamidogus were supposedly meant to spread khaos in all the timelines related to each Geras absorbed into them, and that would be moot if all of them had already be integrated into Havik's.
A 2-C/B/A character should be supposed to destroy/alter/affect the related construct with ease and especially on their own, but right now they always required an item or a man-made portal, like those in the Yin valley.
Splitting the timelines might honestly be a matter of space-time hax tbh, it was the first time two time titans ever fought, making it a sort of paradox (Liu Kang wasn't a titan yet whe he killed Kronika), and it was the only time such an event occurred, even when a hundred different titans started duking out, marking it as a singularity.
The orbital cannon causes something like 6-C levels of damage, calling it tier 2 is kinda disingenous, considering how vague the strength of the titans is in the first place.
It's more immediate to say the cannon is 6-C and an anti-feat, rather than calling it tier 2, while also built by the Special Forces without magic.
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Question is, can it be used as a feat for a regular tier? If the canon causes around 6-C levels of damage, can we use it to make most characters at least tier 7 or something like that?
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I don't think so, it explicitly obliterates several Mileena clones and possibly even Titan Mileena.
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Final calc update got accepted, we can do profiles now
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Don't we still need to figure out LS and Speed ratings?
We might have to separate LS for higher and lower tiers, idk, characters like Geras seem more physically impressive or menacing than others, but I admittedly don't know where to draw the lines.
Khaos Geras collapsin the giant pillar is a great LS feat, considering he breaks it with the push alone.
Iirc Bi-Han actively wrestles against Ermac's TK trying to restrain him.
The Dark Fusions sound more like around the level of the overall cast, just like all the alternate version jobbers.
The Hero Final Fighter is just a titan iirc.
The Kombat Pack also scales to the main cast, aside from crossover that are Titan Level due to existing in their own bubble story and killing Titan Shang Tsung.
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I don't think the Dark characters, the timeline fusion characters like Klockodile, or the Final Fighter deserve profiles, the first two are insignificant and the FF is just a Titan version of a character in MK1 which means we'll be making dozens of profiles. Only Titan who needs a profile IMO is Havik, we already have Titan Shang and Liu which is their current profiles here
Btw, not related to MK1, but can anyone finish the Midway MK profiles? I'm tired of doing them, but you can copy them from my sandbox here. Don't forget to put that box where there's links to the profiles of alternate versions of the character, like their MK9-11 selves and their selves from the movies or crossovers. Will answer questions about what's in their profile and why it's there
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Btw, not related to MK1, but can anyone finish the Midway MK profiles? I'm tired of doing them, but you can copy them from my sandbox here. Don't forget to put that box where there's links to the profiles of alternate versions of the character, like their MK9-11 selves and their selves from the movies or crossovers. Will answer questions about what's in their profile and why it's there
Ecstasy Amphetamine/sandbox5
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No because the hunter may be 9-A but he doesn't oneshot MK chars, none of them are glass cannons
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Yeah, Dark Characters and such are irrelevant, but in the back of my mind I thought there might have been some more relevant one I wasn't remembering at first.
I'd say even Liutenant Johnny Cage might not deserve a profile, idk he's cool and everything, but quite minor all in all. Even Emperor Rain and Tanya have a slight glow up and are playable, but they are minor versions than the main ones (although they ironically have more screen time).
Also, this time we might really have to separate some fatalities and related abilities in different optional tabbers, stuff like Sektor stating she cannot fly over great distances is sort of a gravestone on the notion she can fly to space and back in seconds.
I'd say even Liutenant Johnny Cage might not deserve a profile, idk he's cool and everything, but quite minor all in all. Even Emperor Rain and Tanya have a slight glow up and are playable, but they are minor versions than the main ones (although they ironically have more screen time).
Also, this time we might really have to separate some fatalities and related abilities in different optional tabbers, stuff like Sektor stating she cannot fly over great distances is sort of a gravestone on the notion she can fly to space and back in seconds.
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So what will be the new profiles? Titan Shang, Titan Havik and Invasion characters and some? Will the New Era recieve specific profiles?
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New Era kharakters should definitely receive new files.
Invasion Titans are pointless and it's better to just use them for whatever skaling purpose it may be.
Invasion Titans are pointless and it's better to just use them for whatever skaling purpose it may be.
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I'd pay her to let her do this to me!
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As I tend to say it "I love a woman who can kick my ass."
