More Eggman Upgrades

[Causalist]

Striking & Lifting Strength

Eggman punches truck

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I don't know how far into the process of evaluation this blog is, but if it's not ready to be applied yet I might as well use this thread as a reminder.
And if you think this lifting strength class is weird for Eggman, here's another feat to prove that this isn't his first blatantly superhuman showing (I got permission from the guy who made the calc to use it here btw).

Speed
This one is very minor, but it always kind of bothered me. Why is Eggman running at the same speed as a "casual" Sonic simply considered "Superhuman" with no number attached to that ranking? I understand that fully scaling him to the FTL Sonic would be ridiculous in the context of Sonic canon, but since Eggman's top speed on foot is otherwise impossible to pin-point and it's hard to tell just how casual Sonic was being at that moment, the least we can do is consider his speed "At Least Superhuman". You could even add a "Possibly far higher" if you want.

Super Egg Robot
Why is this MF still 4-A? We went over this in an older thread lol

 

[Theuser789]

Agreed with the AP and LS parts since it has a calc, disagree with adding an at least, Sonic's casual speed being unknown doesn't really mean Eggman could be faster there

Neutral about the 4-A bot, but if people agree...

 

[Causalist]

Agreed with the AP and LS parts since it has a calc, disagree with adding an at least, Sonic's casual speed being unknown doesn't really mean Eggman could be faster there

Then shouldn't Eggman's speed be Unknown?

Neutral about the 4-A bot, but if people agree...

There's literally no reason for it to be 4-A. It has nothing to do with the final Egg blaster. Its 4-A explanation is literally just scaling to Super Sonic's non-existent 4-A key.

 

[Theuser789]

Nah, superhuman is fine, that's the speed Eggman runs in other games, Sonic should just be removed or considered a non factor

 

[Causalist]

Ok then, which superhuman speed feat should we scale Eggman to instead?

 

[Theuser789]

He running in Lost World idk

 

[Causalist]

There is this feat which seems to imply he can at least run 100kmh.


While no unit of measurement seems to be given, this is still an extremely generous estimate, since the top speed of the extreme gear he rides on in-game isn't even that much higher, and it's officially stated to be beyond supersonic.

 

[ElixirBlue]

I agree but that calc can’t be used without approve.

Context of the Classic games says Sonic wasn’t casual, especially Sonic 1, but I’m not pushing it

There is this feat which seems to imply he can at least run 100kmh.


While no unit of measurement seems to be given, this is still an extremely generous estimate, since the top speed of the extreme gear he rides on in-game isn't even that much higher, and it's officially stated to be beyond supersonic.

Sonic Riders shows Dr. Eggman being relative in speed with the others if he is getting on the board roughly the same speed as the ones that he’s racing against. :/

 

[Theuser789]

There is this feat which seems to imply he can at least run 100kmh.


While no unit of measurement seems to be given, this is still an extremely generous estimate, since the top speed of the extreme gear he rides on in-game isn't even that much higher, and it's officially stated to be beyond supersonic.

Speed isn't a unit of mesuarement that can be used, it's not the same kilometers and whatever, it doesn't mean anything

 

[Causalist]

I agree but that calc can’t be used without approve.

Context of the Classic games says Sonic wasn’t casual, especially Sonic 1, but I’m not pushing it



Sonic Riders shows Dr. Eggman being relative in speed with the others if he is getting on the board roughly the same speed as the ones that he’s racing against. :/

Then Eggman should either be put at Unknown with his scaling to a "casual Sonic" being removed or straight up be scaled to the main cast in speed... I don't really like either of those options, but I do think they both make more sense than what we have now.

 

[Theuser789]

Eggman will never be scaled to the main cast in speeds, at best you get unknown, at best.

 

[Causalist]

We can go with that, then. His Superhuman ranking is just as much of a placeholder anyway and it's most likely an understatement

 

[Causalist]

Bump

 

[Theuser789]

Bumperino

 

[Causalist]

Did someone even submit the calc to begin with? I guess I kinda overlooked that lmao

 

[Theuser789]

I have no idea

 

[Causalist]

I made the resquest. Can we go back to the topic of speed and the SER?

 

[ElixirBlue]

I think… I think I might do Eggman’s speed rating for a CRT in the future. I just had a debate about Eggman's travel speed on foot and now… hmm I might have to write it up myself.

If the LS is accepted, then it can be applied and let’s change the Super Egg Robot’s rating.

 

[Theuser789]

Eggman won't be FTL on foot

 

[Causalist]

I think… I think I might do Eggman’s speed rating for a CRT in the future. I just had a debate about Eggman's travel speed on foot and now… hmm I might have to write it up myself.

Looking forward to it

If the LS is accepted, then it can be applied and let’s change the Super Egg Robot’s rating.

To straight up Low 2-C? I'm all for it. Anything is better than 4-A at this point, especially considering the explanation that comes with it.

 

[Causalist]

bump

 

[ElixirBlue]

To straight up Low 2-C? I'm all for it. Anything is better than 4-A at this point, especially considering the explanation that comes with it.

Ye, Dr. Eggman’s LS and SER’s tier upgrade is fine to apply.

 

[Causalist]

Is Psychomaster's word enough to allow the calc to be added to the profile? If so, I'd need Eggman and SER to be unlocked. Btw, your Eggman speed revision is based. I just saw it lol.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Yeah, Psychomaster’s word is fine. Eggman and SER are unlocked. Also, thanks.

 

[Causalist]

Done, the profiles can be closed again ( at least until Eggman gets another speed upgrade)

 

[ElixirBlue]

Done, the profiles can be closed again ( at least until Eggman gets another speed upgrade)

Got it. I do have to mention, the Wiki is using a new tiering format. So don't remove {{ }} when editing the tiers.

 

[Causalist]

Got it. I do have to mention, the Wiki is using a new tiering format. So don't remove {{ }} when editing the tiers.

I don't get how this "{{ }}" thing works. I just made another edit to Eggman's profile (which was necessary after Super Egg Robot's upgrade from 4-A to Low 2-C) and I wasn't able to edit the 4-A key into Low 2-C without removing the "{{ }}".
I also edited Eggman Nega's profile, but I don't know if I should do the same for G.U.N commander. Honestly, I don't think he has any reason to scale to Eggman physically...

 

[ElixirBlue]

Well, a suggestion for that is, instead of bolding the new tier, just put {{ }} on each side.

 

[ElixirBlue]

but I don't know if I should do the same for G.U.N commander.

Consider Dr. Eggman unique from his species for now, since Shadow easily blitzed the G.U.N. Commander in speed, while Eggman doesn't get blitz.

 

[Causalist]

Well, a suggestion for that is, instead of bolding the new tier, just put {{ }} on each side.

I did that. Didn't work. I'll let you handle this from now on lol