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What does burning time and space even mean? Pretty sure Natsu beating Zeref was a nakama attackYufeng.wang.7334 said:Natsu spite with the zefef update he can burn time and space
That was absolute PIS so that doesn't count.Omega998 said:Since speed is equal should we remove precog.
Btw natsu can one shot people on same tier or above(zeref)
Luffy 5 and Natsu 1 or 2 I think ┬»\_(Òâä)_/┬».Knightofannihilation666 said:Fair enough but so far what's the vote count ( Proper ones.)
Byakushiki Setsura said:Both are physical fighters, which means Luffy will have some advantages in durability due to the nature of his body (taken to 11 with Gear 4th). But all of Natsu's physical blows are imbued with fire, so it may damage Luffy despite inflicting little blunt damage. Which leads to me asking for evidence of Luffy's heat resistance. A scan for that would be good. His fire heat resistance comes from his Haki which Natsu would also need to deal with.
Natsu can also straight-up Fire Dragon Roar's Luffy.
Once again Armament haki would protect him from doing so.
Luffy also has limited movepool, as his attack style just involves physical blows. Red Hawk is the exception, but it won't trouble Natsu much given it's fire.
The same could be said for Natsu considering his only attacks consist of Lightning and Fire which Luffy has resistance to both.
So far I'm leaning toward Natsu, but count my vote as inconclusive for now because:
1. Luffy will most likely not go straight for Gear 4th which grants him advantage of flight and further-enhanced blunt force resistance.
"Both are at their strongest." Meaning Gear 4th Luffy.
2. As I said above, I need the scan/ chapter that proves Luffy's heat resistance
3. How does Observation haki work with speed equalized, anyway?
Actually I'm not all to sure about that but i do believe Precog still works in speed equalized fights.
My vote may change if there are sufficient arguments for these points
That... makes no sense. I was asking for a scan/ the chapter that shows his heat resistance, but you just say that unless proven otherwise he is resistant. At least give me a more concrete proof of his heat resistance. As I said, if he is resistant to heat, he would use Red Hawk consecutively, no? And don't forget about the SH group struggling in the fire half of Punk Hazard.Knightofannihilation666 said:And his fire resistance is still there so there's no denying that unless proven other wise.
PaChi2 said:natsu burns luffy's soul. rofl.