Momoshiki and Kinshiki boost

[Mobzzzzz5]

I think we can all agree thay Momoshiki on his own is stronger than Kinshiki, with that in mind this is Kinshiki's databook profile, stating that he can split worlds, plural, but let's lowball and say just one world, a planet, Earth for example. The amount of force one would need to split a world without the gravitational force just pulling it back together is the same force necisarry to blow up the planet. In fact it requires slightly more energy to split Earth as shown in these calculations. So Kinshiki is a planet buster. Then you have Momoshiki who fused with kinshiki, so Multi-Planetary to Large Planet, and He gets absolutely destroyed by Weakened Naruto and Sasuke. Sasuke was weakened because he transported 8 people including himself to another dimension. Naruto was weakened because he was strapped to a tree having his chakra sucked out. So where does that put them on the Destructive scale. If that's not enough proof that their planetary, Sasuke when weakened, but stronger than when the big fight happened, he only teleported himself, was easily fighting Kinshiki, with no troubles at all. Hopefully we can reach a concensus with this argument as these characters should be 5B-5A Tier's especially considering that both Naruto and Sasuke were weakened. What do you guys think.

The amount of energy needed to split a Earth VS the amount of energy needed to blow up a planet


The range of energy necessary to blow up a planet.


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[Dark649]

We discussed this thing and the calc about this so many times and it's against the Discussion Rules.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

no. world can have more than one meaning and this would contradict everything that he has been shown, i dont even personally believe Momoshiki when absorbing Kinshiki is worthy of being 5C ,nevermind 5A, besides these statments should be taken with a grain of salt aswell. as the databook says that haku moves at the speed of light and Temari can blow away a universe.

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

Apologies I haven't witnessed any of these discussions, since I'm new, and I haven't had a chance to read the discussion rules.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

no problem.

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

no problem.

with what

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

no. world can have more than one meaning and this would contradict everything that he has been shown, i dont even personally believe Momoshiki when absorbing Kinshiki is worthy of being 5C ,nevermind 5A, besides these statments should be taken with a grain of salt aswell. as the databook says that haku moves at the speed of light and Temari can blow away a universe.

Please show me a scan of the databook saying Temari can blow away the universe, but Haku's feat I've read it makes sense I could explain it to you if you like

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

im well versed in naruto myself and its my fav anime but in no way agree to haku being light speed

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

im well versed in naruto myself and its my fav anime but in no way agree to haku being light speed

I mean the databooks are written by kishimoto who is the author and creator of the franchise so what he says is what the basis of the series, which is exactly why I don't believe that there is a databook that says Temari can blow away the universe, and I would love some proof for that or your argument about the databooks being out of line is invalid.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

by your logic Madara should be 3A and Naruto by this time should MFTL?. no . heres the scan Blowing away a universe. Feats>>> Staments

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

madara said that his susanoo can destroy anything in the universe.. so madara can now kill goku no lol.

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

by your logic Madara should be 3A and Naruto by this time should MFTL?. no . heres the scan Blowing away a universe. Feats>>> Staments

You and I both know that's an exageration blow away is a pun because she has a fan get it, Naruto is light speed, or he at least dodged a light speed attack and Madara is high 5A

 

[Dark649]

Madara claims to destroy the universe with his Perfect Susanoo

Source Here.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

no naruto is not light speed and madara is nowhere High 5A, madara has not shown any feats to put him that level. the biggest feat madara has shown was him dropping those meteors on sasuke and naruto when he was casting the IT and that was nowhere near dwarf star level in power

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

Madara claims to destroy the universe with his Perfect Susanoo

Source Here.

Funny that we have different translations, clearly that could be a translation error

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

no naruto is not light speed and madara is nowhere High 5A, madara has not shown any feats to put him that level. the biggest feat madara has shown was him dropping those meteors on sasuke and naruto when he was casting the IT and that was nowhere near dwarf star level in power

First of all he had no intention of killing Naruto and Sasuke, or destroying the planet for that matter, he had accomplished his goal, Infinite Tsukoyomi. If he was truly using his full power he would have used Susanoo, but he didn't why becaus he was just toying with them, as he makes a joke

He calls his meteorites rain drops, and says they're slightly big and hard, a joke so much for greatest feat.

in his " biggest feat", and like I said he wasn't even using Susanoo, and Naruto and Sasuke weren't challenged by the meteorites

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Where is 5-A Madara coming from? Also, please don't bring up light speed Naruto as it's against the rules and I think it has been agreed to leave the Momoshiki and Kinshiki matter either till the next chapter gets released or the arc ends.

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

Where is 5-A Madara coming from? Also, please don't bring up light speed Naruto as it's against the rules and I think it has been agreed to leave the Momoshiki and Kinshiki matter either till the next chapter gets released or the arc ends.

Why the movie is already out

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

It says Kinshiki can split worlds. Ok. Over what period of time, with what technique, how often can he use this technique, how big are the's worlds, how much of his Chakra does it take to use this technique, does he use his own Chakra or the surroundings and etc.

Yeah, no. Kinshiki is not Planet level and no one in Naruto is FTL.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Why the movie is already out

Movie is no longer canon with the release of Boruto manga.

 

[Omimi]

databook

manga says too

 

[Flashfilledfaker]

i dont know, But if you think about it, sasuke is stronger than we he fought rikudo naruto since he's been constantly fighting in kaguya's dimensions. And rikudo naruto/rinnegan sasuke are small planet, so kinshiki and momoshiki being planet level isn't inconsistant, as kaguya (who has a planet level tech) is scared of them. Naruto characters being LS, that's a toss up. They can be Sub-rel for might guy distorting space with pure speed is a sub-rel to reletavistic feat.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Are we sure that Sasuke's been constantly "fighting" in Kaguya's dimensions? I remember it being devoid of life when he and Naruto fought Kaguya. Then again, we didn't really see the entire dimensions being explored.

 

[Dark649]

These type of questions and upgrades have been discussed infinite times by different users, which have all been denied and are against the discussion rules, this thread will be soon be closed.