Minor Sonic revisions (Game)

[Maverick_Zero_X]

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Not going for large scale revisions as the title suggests but here's the stuff I wish to revise:

1. Sonic's AP description still links the outdated OPM calc (plus I kinda want it to be a little more detailed). I suggest:

"Multi-Continent level (Clashed with and defeated Ultimate Emerl and the Ifrit, both of which are stated to be able to destroy the world, the latter having already scorched a planet with its flames. Fought with Iblis, who burned an entire planet, ruining its atmosphere and leaving it in a state of ruins for over 200 years. Fought and defeated the Eggrobo, which was powered by energy from the planet's entire biosphere)"


2. The description for Time Break in the techniques section still says that it slows down Sonic as well, which is based on game mechanics.

3. Base Sonic should have Aura via Boost, and it should be noted that Classic Sonic can use the Cyan Laser, Yellow Drill, Indigo Asteroid, Pink Spikes and Red Burst.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Shouldn't the calc be burning the entire surface + the atmosphere?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Would doing all that simultaneously change the results?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Probably.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Good work, Mav, that profile looks a lot more clean than the one we currently have. But yeah, what Shadow brought up could bring the AP up a little but.

Quick question: What amount of energy does the "ruining its atmosphere" result in? A few dozen Petatons, a few hundred?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I can't convert for the life of me, but it's apparently High 6-A: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Dargoo_Faust/Burning_off_the_Atmosphere

 

[ShakeResounding]

Bumpernickel!

 

[Blueblur24]

Bump

 

[Jobbo]

Not even 7 petatons, barely over baseline High 6-A.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

We need the yield combining the surface and the atmosphere.

 

[Jobbo]

It's completely negligible since the surface is in the hundreds of petatons, the increase is less than 2%.

 

[Jobbo]

Oh, looks like the surface calc got downgraded, the increase is still completely negligible though.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Still, I thought Ifrit's world scorching was agreed to be over 300 Petatons. Did world grazing get downgraded agai?

 

[Jobbo]

It got upgraded and then downgraded. 511 > 366 > 646 > 183.

 

[Antvasima]

You should ask Dark649 and Sera EX to comment here.

It is also good to use the Knowledgeable Members List and the Sonic the Hedgehog (The Universe) page to find people to ask to comment here.

 

[Dark649]

Added a little thing, but i agree with the Non-Phisical Interaction and other Classic Sonic stuff, for the High 6-A stuff Jobbo is right.

 

[Antvasima]

I trust Dark649's sense of judgement.

 

[DMB_1]

Weren't we going to give Classic Sonic his own profile at one point?

Also, why is Sonic's stamina listed as "Limitless" in his super forms? He fell down unconscious after his fight with Dark Gaia.

 

[Dark649]

Well, Sonic has a lot of stuff in his profile, so it could be fine, however he only gets the two 8-A and the 5-A to Low 2-C keys, as he is not High 6-A during Forces.

I remember that it was his base form that fell, also in most appearences Super Sonic is never seen being tired.

 

[DMB_1]

He fell in his base because of he lost the stamina he had to maintain the transformation. Goku automatically reverts into his base forms when his stamina runs out.

Even if he had limitless stamina in his Super form, he wouldn't suddenly lose it once he reverts to his base form.

 

[Dark649]

His Base form was extremely strained from having his energy and Werehog being drained from Dark Gaia, from running back and fourth in order to destroy his eyes and then fighting his final form while in Super Form.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Weren't we going to give Classic Sonic his own profile at one point?

Also, why is Sonic's stamina listed as "Limitless" in his super forms? He fell down unconscious after his fight with Dark Gaia.

That was after he reverted to base, plus he was drained of energy from Perfect Dark Gaia before going super.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Maverick has a blog outlining a Classic Sonic profile.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Shadow Idk why Classic Sonic is only Sub-Relativistic+ for dodging lasers from a close distance as that should be in the Relativistic-Relativistic+ range tbh unless its calculated to be case (which it isn't on the profile for his base), otherwise that should be fixed soon. Also, that's just reaction speed, it doesn't apply for everything else really.

 

[Blueblur24]

So is sonic and now 183 petatons ?

 

[ShakeResounding]

A little higher due to the burned atmosphere + surface being wiped, but as Magi said, it's a negligable increase. Unless there's something else they scale to, I think that's it.

 

[ShakeResounding]

If we do end up splitting Classic and Modern Sonic, we could just note he likely has all of Classic Sonic's abilities. I wouldn't mind keeping them together, though.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Modern Sonic does have all of Classic Sonic's abilities.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Yeah, I realized that after. For a sec I thought we were making one for the Mania Timeline of Classic Sonic.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Bump. Also some additions for Classic Sonic's profile.

Can slow down time to a near stop with Time Break

Strength Augmentatio with Hercules Muscles

Enhanced Senses with Treasure Scanner

 

[ShakeResounding]

He has his own profile now, sweet. I agree with what you proposed, it makes sense.

You did a good job, Maverick. When do you plan on actually revising Modern Sonic's profile? On top of that, we should probably rename the profile to Sonic the Hedgehog (Modern).

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Thanks guy. As for your question, probably when I get finished with the Archie-verse.

 

[ShakeResounding]

I think it could be as simple as just having the draft looked over by Dark, use it as the actual one, paste his wind and losses, and boom.

Were be both talking about the profile, or were you talking about adding abilities and stuff?