Minor Mario and Luigi revision

[Dark649]

Mario or Yoshi in Super Mario 64 can defeat King Bob-Omb, who created his own dimension and should be comparable to other minions like Wiggler, who has the sky filled with stars 4-A feat without Power Stars [0].

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Mario doesn't necessarily exclusively power himself up with the Power Stars, anyway. But yeah, I have several 4-A feats listed.

Oh, and Bowser created all of the realms in the painting, I believe, now the bosses in them.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

I still have my reservations about using a party game for feats.

It's allowed and valid, though.

 

[Dark649]

Oh, and Bowser created all of the realms in the painting, I believe, now the bosses in them.

Bowser star in the final battle is considerably bigger than all the other ones, Mario had all 120 of them when he fought Bowser the third time.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Mario did not necessarily need all 120/150 stars to fight Bowser, he only required 70.

 

[Dark649]

Mario main objective in 64 was to restore all the stars in the castle which Bowser had stolen, the latter has a special quote if defeated with all the stars.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Yes, I remember, the Yoshi atop The castle and whatnot.

Uhm, anywho, we still need Azathoth to agree for the High 4-C to be dropped and all the profiles to be edited.

 

[Dark649]

The feat can be also listed in the Ap or Feats section like other characters.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

For the justification, I can see "Can defeat enemies empowered by the Power Stars, that were used to create realms that have a sky full of stars. Has defeated King Boo(who would still have his 4-A justification). Has fought against Antasma(Who still has questionably 4-A justification). Has defeated Millennium Star, who created a realm with a background full of stars for their battle."

 

[Dino_Ranger_Black]

@Ant

Sorry, I was at work. I will, just let me know when you are ready.

@Hadou

I think simply labeling the explaination for the tier as "Comparable and able to fight characters capable of creating realms and powered by Power Stars" would be much simplistic while providing a link within the explaination instead of that long tedious explaination. There really isn't anything questionable about Antasma's feat as it's no different from Zeus' feats from Hercules. Luigi was singificantly much smaller than the stars within the constellations when approaching it. The close up just shows how the Luiginoids came to be.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Ah, okay. Well, do what you want with the profiles and you can link my respect blog to the verse page.

 

[Dino_Ranger_Black]

Actually, the page for the Power Star still has a link to the calculation. Maybe when don't need one at the moment.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

but. ;-; I already made one.

 

[Dino_Ranger_Black]

Oh....sorry. Well, if we are going to link the blog, you need to re-write it entirely.The MP9 feat needs to be removed completely. Not only it doesn't apply to anyone since it's done with a machine but the objects are Mini-Stars, according to the game's story, not actual stars. The Star Rod is pure speculation, unjustified, and the calculation from Pokemon USUM does not apply to it in anyway. The link referring to PM's feat is actually a link to MP3. Finally, as stated as above, the mere close-up of the Luiginary Works is just a show case of how the Luiginoids came to be. Luigi is significantly smaller than the stars within the constellation as seen when he approaches and came back from it.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Alrighty. I will apply the changes and then come back.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

I did it. You can check it now.

 

[Antvasima]

Can somebody ask Azathoth to comment here?

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

I did, maybe I should ask him again.

 

[Antvasima]

You can do so if you wish, yes. Just remember to do so in a polite manner.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Of course. I asked him again.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Did you guys see that thing about the speed of Millennium Star? How he's able to move from the center of the universe to the Mushroom Kingdom within seconds?

 

[Firestorm808]

The phrase used is "around that time," so I would say a half hour at most.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Would the low end be a few seconds?

 

[Firestorm808]

Wait, how many galaxies are in the Marioverse, again?

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

I don't think it's specified. I don't believe Mario traverses every galaxy within his universe in the Mario games.

 

[Firestorm808]

The first Galaxy game had 36 Galaxies with the final level taking place in the center of the Universe. This would be the most appropriate game to make a comparison.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

There are more than 36 galaxies in Super Mario Sunshine showcased by the visual nebulae you can see in the background of the secret levels.

 

[Firestorm808]

What I mean is that the map of Galaxy would imply that there is a maximum 36 Galaxies between the planet of the Mushroom Kingdom and the center of the universe.

 

[Firestorm808]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bcMnQDKOAR8/hqdefault.jpg

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Oh, that. I thought you were implying that there was only 36 galaxies in the Mario universe. Yeah, a calc could be made with a low end(five seconds), mid end(one minute), and high end(thirty minutes) for Millennium Star flying to the Mushroom Kingdom from the center of the Universe, which would require flying past your proposed 36 galaxies.

 

[Firestorm808]

Andromeda Galaxy (Closest Galaxy):

Distance to Earth: 2.537 million light years

Radius: 110000 light years

Traveled 18-36 Galaxy lengths

Time: 5s, 1min, 30 min

Millenium Star Speed

Low Ball:

(2.537*10^6+110000)*18/(30*60) = 26470 Light years/s = 8.3533*10^11c

High Ball

(2.537*10^6+110000)*36/5 = 19058400 Light years/s= 6.01437364*10^14c

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Hundreds of trillions? Nice.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Wait, the high-ball should be twice as fast, shouldn't it? If it's going by the high-end of galaxies, which would be 32?

 

[Firestorm808]

Sorry, I typed that wrong. Corrected it, now. The end number is still right though.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Oh, alrighty.

 

[Antvasima]

I will ask Azathoth to evaluate this.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Okay.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

The tier revision seems fine if the new reasoning is used.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Thank you. I have another Mario thread I made recently regarding the Abilities of Mario, Luigi, Paper Mario, and perhaps revising the speed of the cast. Would you take a look at it?