WAHOOOO! Mario Bros AP Revisions (M&L Brothership Spoilers) - Part 1 (Feat-Gathering)

[Omnificence]

I was counting Planck. He makes it 4-2.

Well, I'm looking at his post and the votes in the OP and it says this:

Staff Neutral: 1 (Planck69 [Ice Flower Feat])

So, for clarification, is he actually neutral on the entire thread? Or just the Ice Flower feat?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Yeah. I know. But it was also counting Planck in the agrees to most things. As he is listed there, too. With Planck signing off on a lot of the thread, the vote is 2-4. I urge you to read the votes. You'll see I'm right.

 

[Omnificence]

I urge you to read the votes. You'll see I'm right.

Okay, that's fine. I'm not really saying whether or not you're right or wrong; I'm just making sure we're not doing anything like... misinterpreting a vote since the staff has a problem with it in CRTs.

 

[Nierre]

oh yeah let me pitch in my vote and say I agree with the upgrades. I believe we have enough supporting feats to justify the rating.

Edit: I'm neutral on the Ice Flower feat though

 

[Omnificence]

oh yeah let me pitch in my vote and say I agree with the upgrades. I believe we have enough supporting feats to justify the rating.

Okay, so that's 5-2 now, yes?

 

[Nierre]

yes.

 

[IDK3465]

Again everyone, we should really focus on getting a consensus on the Wario Land storm feat.

Tbh, I think moving that conversation to its own thread in the calc group section would be best, as then it’d be less daunting for new CGMs to look at the discussion and give their thoughts.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Planck69 [High 6-A]

He's IN the agree section Omni, he specified he's fine with High 6-A.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Okay, that's fine. I'm not really saying whether or not you're right or wrong; I'm just making sure we're not doing anything like... misinterpreting a vote since the staff has a problem with it in CRTs.

It says he agrees with High 6-A? I'm not sure what you're trying to ask.

 

[Omnificence]

It says he agrees with High 6-A?

Uh, never mind... I'm probably acting a bit oblivious here...

Sorry about that.

 

[Dalesean027]

oh yeah let me pitch in my vote and say I agree with the upgrades. I believe we have enough supporting feats to justify the rating.

Edit: I'm neutral on the Ice Flower feat though

Oh I am late asf and just now seeing this, Congrats on becoming a thread mod!!

 

[Dalesean027]

Again everyone, we should really focus on getting a consensus on the Wario Land storm feat.

Tbh, I think moving that conversation to its own thread in the calc group section would be best, as then it’d be less daunting for new CGMs to look at the discussion and give their thoughts.

I disagree with moving the wario calc but I'll leave it to yall

 

[ShakeResounding]

On further thinking, I also agree moving it to another thread is unnecessary. High 6-A can be handled here, the entire premise is set and I have instructions in OP to where staff can find which feat in the pages and which pages were wasted with debates.

That being said, are we waiting for even more calc group members to settle the Wario calc? Because we can make it easier on them by tagging them in a post with the run-down of Chariot and Bambu's reasonings for their stance on the calc.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Also, for those worried about getting Calc Group Members being summoned here and getting caught up in all the pages: realistically, they only need to look through 2 pages at most even without a catch-up post.

We don't need the incoming CGMs to look through anything except the Wario Land calc unless they want to because that's essentially the main point of the debate atm (wouldn't mind evaluations of the Ice Flower feat as well but that can be left alone).

 

[Dust_Collector]

So if the Wario Land feat generally gets accepted (The 6-A end anyway) how many more feats would we need to be consistent with High 6-A? Dark Bowser's feat is very nice but given it's 4,500 to 260,000 times higher than the next highest calc and sits at tier 5 it's looking like a pretty big outlier and unusable with the Brothership and Wario Land feats.

 

[ShakeResounding]

So if the Wario Land feat generally gets accepted (The 6-A end anyway) how many more feats would we need to be consistent with High 6-A?

We currently have 2 feats that give the characters their 6-C ratings. Take that for what you will.

Dark Bowser's feat is very nice but given it's 4,500 to 260,000 times higher than the next highest calc and sits at tier 5 it's looking like a pretty big outlier and unusable with the Brothership and Wario Land feats.

The issue is we can always shift the goalpost and declare we require another feat for better consistency and play the "Outlier!" card. If there are 2 feats holding up the current rating, I doubt we need a dozen feats for the other end of Tier 6.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Also, I re-organized the OP for maximum information with minimal room being taken up.

I've also added a "Current Discussion" tab with a link to where the Chariot/Bambu debate began.

 

[Dust_Collector]

We currently have 2 feats that give the characters their 6-C ratings. Take that for what you will.

huh, thought we had more than that for 6-C lol

 

[Armorchompy]

There's a bunch of tier 7 backing those up.