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Minor change to Incorporeality

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This is kinda nitpicky, but the Incorporeality page is wrong about energy.

Incorporeal (or Non-Corporeal) beings are those who have no true physical form. Though they may have physical avatars or bodies, but their true essence exists non-physically, whether as a soul, as energy, or as an abstract concept.
Energy is not non-physical. If it was, it would be metaphysical and physicists around the world would be studying something spiritual. Energy would be intangible (not immaterial which is also spiritual)

I think this is important as this sentence could lead people to believe interacting with energy means your attacks can work on characters that are actually non-physical.
 
What will be the new exemple? Since Pyron is made of pure energy
Forgot to mention, but Pyron's profile states he's spiritual energy. If that's true, he would be non-physical. Maybe we should think of a new example but I'll wait for more replies
 
This is kinda nitpicky, but the Incorporeality page is wrong about energy.


Energy is not non-physical. If it was, it would be metaphysical and physicists around the world would be studying something spiritual. Energy would be intangible (not immaterial which is also spiritual)

I think this is important as this sentence could lead people to believe interacting with energy means your attacks can work on characters that are actually non-physical.
There are a couple of issues here:

Energy is physical. Yes, but in the same vein as, for example, space, time, and fields, which while they exist and are expressly physical, you would be extremely hard-pressed to say that any of those are material, and thus, interactable through conventional means.

Energy is not material, it is not composed of, nor is matter (in the ways that matter), it is a property matter or a field can carry (the latter of which being how we energy interacts with us IRL anyways).

Relating to what I said above, fiction does not portray energy as how it actually behaves IRL. It is not a substance, it is a property, there is no free/pure energy as how fiction may portray it.

With all this it should be clear that most examples of energy within fiction do not behave, nor are they portrayed, as how it functions IRL, why would we limit it to how real energy works.

Also the argument about energy being nonphysical and stuff is just a non-sequitur. Even if it was nonphysical to begin with it wouldn't change anything, physicians studying something nonphysical (which doesn't necessarily mean spiritual) is something that has happened and has been happening for a very long time, given how much of math and its concepts apply to physics. Like the fact that multiple phenomena can be described by equations that use imaginary numbers, and those sure as hell aren't physical.

So no, energy being physical doesn't necessarily make it corporeal or material, and even if it did, it would apply to typical portrayals of energy in fiction, which treats it in ways it does not actually exist within the laws of physics.
 
Energy is physical. Yes, but in the same vein as, for example, space, time, and fields, which while they exist and are expressly physical, you would be extremely hard-pressed to say that any of those are material, and thus, interactable through conventional means.
I never disagreed with that

So no, energy being physical doesn't necessarily make it corporeal or material, and even if it did, it would apply to typical portrayals of energy in fiction, which treats it in ways it does not actually exist within the laws of physics.
Never said it was corporeal, the point of my thread was that the NPI page says energy was non-physical which isn't true
 
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