Mihawk vs Sasuke

[Godernet]

no bro part 2 sauce

5C Part 2 Sasuke IS Six Path Sasuke(aka Rinnegan Sasuke)

 

[Robo432343]

5C Part 2 Sasuke IS Six Path Sasuke(aka Rinnegan Sasuke)

Yes

 

[Godernet]

Yes

Yes

 

[karo_senpaii]

Yes

That's still a stomp

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yes we can't coz that's the rules sorry

Rules RN are that any and all layers must be accepted on the below thread, that blog is currently dogwater until accepted in said thread

Hax Layer Evaluation Thread

The purpose of this thread is to evaluate which verses do and do not qualify for layered hax under the newly codified standards, much like Glass did for type 5 acausality not too long ago. Given the massive amount of ground that needs to be covered, this will be a somewhat disorganized thread...

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[That_moron2]

No on the blog it is right there it is 8.

That's resistance you goober.

 

[Robo432343]

Yes

u want me to use part 3 sasusaku?

 

[DaReaperMan]

fck

Biscuit Oliva vs Alien X (4/0/1)

Start 5 meters away Battle takes place at Arizona Prison in Oliva's room Albedo is in his Aliex X key Biscuit Oliva: 4 Albedo: 0 Inconclusive: 1

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In fact, I had the black man stomp

 

[Godernet]

u want me to use part 3 sasusaku?

if Kishi ever drops Part 3 sure

 

[TauanVictor]

Sasuke's genjutsu layer is 8:

Rinnegan's Genjutsu > Kotoamatsukami > Tsukuyomi > Base EMS Genjutsu > Base MS Genjutsu > Base 3-Tomoe Genjutsu > Base 2-Tomoe Genjutsu > Base 1-Tomoe Genjutsu > Conventional Genin's Genjutsu

 

[Robo432343]

if Kishi ever drops Part 3 sure

I meant new era

 

[DaReaperMan]

Sasuke's genjutsu layer is 8:

Rinnegan's Genjutsu > Kotoamatsukami > Tsukuyomi > Base EMS Genjutsu > Base MS Genjutsu > Base 3-Tomoe Genjutsu > Base 2-Tomoe Genjutsu > Base 1-Tomoe Genjutsu > Conventional Genin's Genjutsu

Has it been accepted on the Hax Layer evaluation thread? You know cause you're actually debatable

 

[Robo432343]

Sasuke's genjutsu layer is 8:

Rinnegan's Genjutsu > Kotoamatsukami > Tsukuyomi > Base EMS Genjutsu > Base MS Genjutsu > Base 3-Tomoe Genjutsu > Base 2-Tomoe Genjutsu > Base 1-Tomoe Genjutsu > Conventional Genin's Genjutsu

Hot

 

[Godernet]

Sasuke's genjutsu layer is 8:

Rinnegan's Genjutsu > Kotoamatsukami > Tsukuyomi > Base EMS Genjutsu > Base MS Genjutsu > Base 3-Tomoe Genjutsu > Base 2-Tomoe Genjutsu > Base 1-Tomoe Genjutsu > Conventional Genin's Genjutsu

you forgot IT but yeah

I meant new era

mf mf just goonin a bit

that probably wouldn't change too much tho tbh

New Era Sauce uses less rinnegan abilities but has stronger Genjutsu and BFR now

 

[TauanVictor]

Has it been accepted on the Hax Layer evaluation thread? You know cause you're actually debatable

Yes, it's been accepted in this thread.

 

[That_moron2]

Yes we can't coz that's the rules sorry

The rules do not forbid willpower based resistance, they just say they won't necessarily work if the energy systems aren't similar enough.

 

[Robo432343]

Yes, it's been accepted in this thread.

That’s not the hax layer thread

 

[TauanVictor]

you forgot IT but yeah

Cuz' Sasuke doesn't have it.

 

[karo_senpaii]

That's resistance you goober.

Are we reading the same thing?

Rules RN are that any and all layers must be accepted on the below thread, that blog is currently dogwater until accepted in said thread

Hax Layer Evaluation Thread

The purpose of this thread is to evaluate which verses do and do not qualify for layered hax under the newly codified standards, much like Glass did for type 5 acausality not too long ago. Given the massive amount of ground that needs to be covered, this will be a somewhat disorganized thread...

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Right there you see "verses in need if evaluation " did you see naruto verse there? If so then it means it is not in need of evaluation at least for now. Literally genjustu was actually used as one of the bench marks for layering

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yes, it's been accepted in this thread.

Hax Layer evaluation thread is 2023, ya need to go do it again because a lot of Hax shit didn't go very well

Hax Layer Evaluation Thread

The purpose of this thread is to evaluate which verses do and do not qualify for layered hax under the newly codified standards, much like Glass did for type 5 acausality not too long ago. Given the massive amount of ground that needs to be covered, this will be a somewhat disorganized thread...

vsbattles.com

 

[TauanVictor]

That’s not the hax layer thread

What changes?

 

[Godernet]

Cuz' Sasuke doesn't have it.

Sasuke's rinnegan is above IT

 

[karo_senpaii]

Sasuke's genjutsu layer is 8:

Rinnegan's Genjutsu > Kotoamatsukami > Tsukuyomi > Base EMS Genjutsu > Base MS Genjutsu > Base 3-Tomoe Genjutsu > Base 2-Tomoe Genjutsu > Base 1-Tomoe Genjutsu > Conventional Genin's Genjutsu

You skipped infinite tsukyomi

 

[TauanVictor]

Sasuke's rinnegan is above IT

I don't remember that.

 

[DaReaperMan]

You skipped infinite tsukyomi

Not all mindhax is created equal

 

[karo_senpaii]

Hax Layer evaluation thread is 2023, ya need to go do it again because a lot of Hax shit didn't go very well

Hax Layer Evaluation Thread

The purpose of this thread is to evaluate which verses do and do not qualify for layered hax under the newly codified standards, much like Glass did for type 5 acausality not too long ago. Given the massive amount of ground that needs to be covered, this will be a somewhat disorganized thread...

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Sane recycled shit. In the "verse in need of Evaluation " section in that thread naruto is not there. So for now it 100% stands. It's like you saying coz a crt is ongoing to change something then you can't use what is previously there even though the crt has not passed.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Not all mindhax is created equal

Sasuke genjustu is stated to be verbatim above IS. This is not about what we think

 

[That_moron2]

Are we reading the same thing?

Furthermore, attacks that require a special type of energy to be effective, like anti-magic requiring magic, will be assumed to work against the energies of different Verses, as long as they are somehow similar and the mechanics are somehow compatible with the known mechanics behind the energies from different Verses. For example, mind control resistance by being a capable mind user would also work against other Verses, but mind control resistance through a strong will would not necessarily work against mind control from other Verses. It is also important to note that characters won't lose or gain any abilities or resistances which they do or do not inherently possess. However, if an ability has a weakness, condition, caveat, or limitation, consistently shown throughout its use (such as not working on characters under a specific condition, like energy gap) or stated by a valid and uncontradicted statement, then it should be applicable after the equalization.

Read the bold parts.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Sane recycled shit. In the "verse in need of Evaluation " section in that thread naruto is not there. So for now it 100% stands. It's like you saying coz a crt is ongoing to change something then you can't use what is previously there even though the crt has not passed.

Because Naruto hasn't even been brought up there lmfao, you want me to grab that CRT and go make sure for ya'll, or do you want to do it your damn selves?

 

[Godernet]

Also, GJ layers already meet the criteria of that one thread Fuji made, it doesn't need to be accepted in an already closed thread if it has been accepted and meets these criteria.

Layered Hax

Layering is a term used to refer to the ability of one's hax to break through resistance to such hax. For instance, if Character A is said to have resistance to Mind Manipulation, and Character B is able to successfully use Mind Manipulation on them, then Character B would have layered Mind Manipulation. In theory, this process can extend indefinitely - another character may be able to resist Character B's Mind Manipulation, and therefore have layered resistance. Another character may then be able to use Mind Manipulation on that character, making their hax even more layered, so on and so forth.

It is important to note that the ability to bypass resistances is the sole means through which layered hax should be measured. Other means of measuring potency - such as range, number of people affected, vague increases in strength, or multipliers - cannot be used to determine if hax are layered or not. For example, if a character is stated to have Soul Manipulation that is 10 times more powerful than normal, this would not be considered layered without direct showings or statements of bypassing resistance.

Layered hax should not be confused with Resistance Negation - the former can still be resisted, so long as one's own resistances match or surpass the number of layers of the ability in question. Resistance Negation, on the other hand, is the ability to remove or ignore resistances entirely, rendering the strength of one's resistances irrelevant.

the only reason that thread was made was to outline these requirements to stop goons from abusing Layered Hax with faulty logic.

if anything the GJ Potency blog needs updating because GJ is more busted than what was accepted back two years ago when the layers were added.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Sasuke genjustu is stated to be verbatim above IS. This is not about what we think

You are equating sense and illusion mind shit to something else in the case I brought up, I wasn't speaking on IS

 

[Robo432343]

fr let’s just wait for Naruto layers to get accepted

 

[That_moron2]

Yes, it's been accepted in this thread.

Its not eight layers on the blog that was accepted's provided scaling chain. You're adding extra layers that aren't in the accepted thing.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Also, GJ layers already meet the criteria of that one thread Fuji made, it doesn't need to be accepted in an already closed thread if it has been accepted and meets these criteria.

Layered Hax

Layering is a term used to refer to the ability of one's hax to break through resistance to such hax. For instance, if Character A is said to have resistance to Mind Manipulation, and Character B is able to successfully use Mind Manipulation on them, then Character B would have layered Mind Manipulation. In theory, this process can extend indefinitely - another character may be able to resist Character B's Mind Manipulation, and therefore have layered resistance. Another character may then be able to use Mind Manipulation on that character, making their hax even more layered, so on and so forth.

It is important to note that the ability to bypass resistances is the sole means through which layered hax should be measured. Other means of measuring potency - such as range, number of people affected, vague increases in strength, or multipliers - cannot be used to determine if hax are layered or not. For example, if a character is stated to have Soul Manipulation that is 10 times more powerful than normal, this would not be considered layered without direct showings or statements of bypassing resistance.

Layered hax should not be confused with Resistance Negation - the former can still be resisted, so long as one's own resistances match or surpass the number of layers of the ability in question. Resistance Negation, on the other hand, is the ability to remove or ignore resistances entirely, rendering the strength of one's resistances irrelevant.

the only reason that thread was made was to outline these requirements to stop goons from abusing Layered Hax with faulty logic.

if anything the GJ Potency blog needs updating because GJ is more busted than what was accepted back two years ago when the layers were added.

All right, good

 

[Robo432343]

Who has the AP advantage

 

[karo_senpaii]

Because Naruto hasn't even been brought up there lmfao, you want me to grab that CRT and go make sure for ya'll, or do you want to do it your damn selves?

Good it hasn't been brought up. Till then it is still on the verse page and it will stay there till it gets reviewed

Also, GJ layers already meet the criteria of that one thread Fuji made, it doesn't need to be accepted in an already closed thread if it has been accepted and meets these criteria.

Layered Hax

Layering is a term used to refer to the ability of one's hax to break through resistance to such hax. For instance, if Character A is said to have resistance to Mind Manipulation, and Character B is able to successfully use Mind Manipulation on them, then Character B would have layered Mind Manipulation. In theory, this process can extend indefinitely - another character may be able to resist Character B's Mind Manipulation, and therefore have layered resistance. Another character may then be able to use Mind Manipulation on that character, making their hax even more layered, so on and so forth.

It is important to note that the ability to bypass resistances is the sole means through which layered hax should be measured. Other means of measuring potency - such as range, number of people affected, vague increases in strength, or multipliers - cannot be used to determine if hax are layered or not. For example, if a character is stated to have Soul Manipulation that is 10 times more powerful than normal, this would not be considered layered without direct showings or statements of bypassing resistance.

Layered hax should not be confused with Resistance Negation - the former can still be resisted, so long as one's own resistances match or surpass the number of layers of the ability in question. Resistance Negation, on the other hand, is the ability to remove or ignore resistances entirely, rendering the strength of one's resistances irrelevant.

the only reason that thread was made was to outline these requirements to stop goons from abusing Layered Hax with faulty logic.

if anything the GJ Potency blog needs updating because GJ is more busted than what was accepted back two years ago when the layers were added.

For real US will work on them soon. They aren't going to be able to believe it.

Read the bold parts.

Bold part ain't necessary. I didn't say he looses anything he still has his resistance. And if someone can use Mind Manipulation via will power he would resist it fine coz he has resistance via willpower. But anything outside that still needs to be proven.

You are equating sense and illusion mind shit to something else in the case I brought up, I wasn't speaking on IS

I said he skipped IT as it is a layer less than Sasuke's and a layer higher than kotoamatsukami . That is all I am saying. You're saying unrelated stuff

 

[karo_senpaii]

Who has the AP advantage

We're not talking about ap advantage when mihawk is one tapped. This match cannot be added. It is pointless to argue

 

[Robo432343]

We're not talking about ap advantage when mihawk is one tapped. This match cannot be added. It is pointless to argue

so Mihawk stomps??

 

[That_moron2]

I said he skipped IT as it is a layer less than Sasuke's and a layer higher than kotoamatsukami . That is all I am saying. You're saying unrelated stuff

No I'm not. The different tomoe scaling was added and not accepted.

 

[Godernet]

so Mihawk stomps??

I think he's talking about how one is 33 Exatons(Worlds skilliest swordguy) and the other is 88.4 Exatons with several amps(nard's BF)