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[MHA vs MCU] Deku vs Thanos
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Fajin speed blitz?
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Deku outstats?
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Ooh yeah just looked at it. It appears that he needs like "imaginary motivation" or smth like that along with that, it takes him a minute of like stationary charging in order for him to actually have it take effect.
Now heres my arguments for both sides.
Deku has Fa Jin in which if he somehow keeps Thanos busy for an extended period, he can actually pop it and destroy Thanos. Even without it, I'm not sure how strong his willpower is but it looks relatively strong. Along with that, Deku might outmaneuver Thanos due to Acrobatics, 100% (SOL) and can likely predict Thanos's next move via Analytical Prediction.
As for Thanos, Thanos will probably not let him pop Fa Jin (unless he just dialogues throughout the entire way). Thanos is a very formidiable fighter and extremely fast as he can react to Captain Marvel's top flight speed and can blitz Hulk. Very powerful foe, even without his gauntlet.
Now, who would win?
I'd give it to Thanos. Thanos will probably cut the Deku transformations short with a quick toss of his Double Blade, which he can do. Deku's transformations take him an extremely long time (like at least 30 seconds) for him to actually get them off, which is more than enough time for Thanos to blitz him in his s$!( and crack the f!%^ outta him.
Thanos takes this.
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On a utility end, I think Deku wins out in many ways. Thanos would struggle to get close to Deku due to Smokescreens, Fajin, and especially Black Whip via scaling off of Deku's higher LS. On that note, Black Whip, seems like a somewhat fair counter to the Double Blade.
It's also worth noting that it looks like Deku can LS crush Thanos with Black Whip. According to their pages Thanos is Class T, while Deku is Class P and gets higher under OFA amps. Fajin also amps Deku to FTL, which is looks like his only direct means to bypass the difference in RS.
Edit: I guess I'll be the one to bring up Deku's Danger Sense too. It's probably one of the only measures Deku against Thanos' RS and Power Stone.
Voting Deku for now
It's also worth noting that it looks like Deku can LS crush Thanos with Black Whip. According to their pages Thanos is Class T, while Deku is Class P and gets higher under OFA amps. Fajin also amps Deku to FTL, which is looks like his only direct means to bypass the difference in RS.
Edit: I guess I'll be the one to bring up Deku's Danger Sense too. It's probably one of the only measures Deku against Thanos' RS and Power Stone.
Voting Deku for now
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Thanos could vaporize the atmosphere with the powerstone though
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Pretty sure stones are restricted.
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Hmmm.. this'll be an interesting match. Can't wait for more arguments between the two.
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Naeem0304
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This isn't an answer to the match but rather a reminder. Do remember that the MCU Visual Guide stated that Ronan was "Infinity Stone-empowered" by the power stone which allowed him to survive the Hadron Enforcer:
So Thanos can amplify his AP/durability stats to Moon Level with the power stone.
Source: Rocket Raccoon's profile
So Thanos can amplify his AP/durability stats to Moon Level with the power stone.
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Thanos profile forgot that Ronan exists lol
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Oh hell thats oneshot worthy is it not?
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IIRC they didn't index it because Thanos hardly uses the amping aspect of the Power Stone when using the gauntlet. The only time he let himself get amped by the stone was when he punched Captain Marvel away
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True, although it's well within his capability of doing so (it would've been better to index it as something he's capable of, but not within his AP part of the page, I suppose.)
Yes, by a crazy margin. That's 2.15 Petatons for Deku vs 29 Exatons for Thanos (power-stone amped) or a 1348x difference.
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Deku… dodges literally everything Thanos does with Danger Sense and analytical prediction. Thanos is never touching him with anything other than massive AoE, and he’s going to be restrained by a colossal lifting strength Gap and disarmed near immediately.
Deku does not need time for anything other than Fa Jin, which he can charge in seconds. Idk what you’re talking about with transformations, all he does is increase his power instantly to whatever he needs it to be. In this case he is starting at 45%, which is weaker than Thanos, but his LS is still vastly higher as well as every other ability that makes Thanos hitting him colossally difficult.
There is no “30 second transformation” I think you have the completely wrong character.
Thanos only chance is Omni directional power stone with an AP gap kill blast. Which he would need to do before Deku restrains his entire body/hand and beats his ass unconscious.
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This is true, he can charge Fa Jin while actively fighting. He actually did this while dodging Lady Nagant's rifle shots in mid-air, so him being on the ground or needing to be still doesn't matter. What will matter though is whether or not Thanos can immobilize Deku, which... doesn't seem like a viable case.
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Danger Sense will warn Deku moments before it happens though
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It would have to be a one shot blast power wave and Thanos doesn’t typically lead with that. If he gets it off at a one shot, outlandishly large scale level, then yeah, he can catch Deku. If not, Deku is taking the gauntlet off and restraining him into a KO.
Those characters don’t have Deku’s analytical prediction or Danger Sense. Good fighters, yes, but even Bruce Lee can be defeated by anyone who can see and respond to his moves before he makes them. He’d just start predicting Thanos’s attacks and restraining him with Blackwhip.
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He stomped Spiderman who has a better danger sense and maneuverability
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Didn’t Spider-Man not even have his honed spider sense yet? And he “stomped” him by grabbing him when he flew in from a portal, not much of a fight.
For a comparison with spider sense vs danger sense (one of my favorites):
Spider Sense is better at all around sensing and automatic movement. However it is not always reliable, doesn’t always activate. It’s more potent with more uses but less security.
Danger Sense is PERMANENTLY active, to the point that you can a dodge attacks that can blitz you, consistently, with it active. Any movement Thanos makes, Danger Sense will immediately pick up and Deku will dodge. It doesn’t sense around and can get overwhelmed (sort of), but when it comes to opponents attacking you, it will never fail to pick them up outside of those with no hostility whatsoever.
Also Spider Man does not have better maneuverability, Deku has all his movement options plus true flight in this key.
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Yeah Spidey didn't master his Spider Sense until after the Infinity Saga during his fight with Mysterio. I don't think this is a good comparison in this case.
About Deku's acrobatics, he also has a lot more air maneuverability than Spidey thanks to OFA's Float quirk. This coupled with Danger Sense hard enables easy mid-air dodges at range and a handicap against Thanos' RS. It's also worth noting that Deku is likely to be in the air for 80% of the fight, if this key wasn't indicative enough.
About Deku's acrobatics, he also has a lot more air maneuverability than Spidey thanks to OFA's Float quirk. This coupled with Danger Sense hard enables easy mid-air dodges at range and a handicap against Thanos' RS. It's also worth noting that Deku is likely to be in the air for 80% of the fight, if this key wasn't indicative enough.
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Do you think giving him the Space Stone would make this a tad bit more fair?
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Alright then, but Deku can use everything he can do in his Dark Hero Arc key, including 100%.
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IDK much about Thanos so I cannot really judge how the fight goes down right now.
But doesn't Thanos stomp with the Power Stone and Space Stone?Or is he just that inefficient with the Infinity Stones?
But doesn't Thanos stomp with the Power Stone and Space Stone?
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Thanos never really used the Power Stone to do something relevant and he just used the Space Stone to teleport around the universe
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He isnt. He's considered the best user of the stones by the time of IW/Endgame
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Idk if he was able to do this because the gauntlet was complete and it amped the stone, but with the space stone he was able to basically use kamui on the hulk to turn HIM intangible which made him fly through thanos and get him trapped inside some rocks, IF he can do that it'll provide a major edge because he literally wont be able to touch anything. Besides that one unique skill deku should be able to handle everything the power stone could do and with all his other quriks he can handle thanos in close combat and mid range
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He didnt have the complete IG, he was about to get the Mind Stone when that happened
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Oh yeah he deleted vision a minute AFTER THAT, well then if he uses that cheesy intangability move it can definitely net a W
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Mentality-wise, Izuku is a crazy multi-tasker (such as adapting to Nagant's movement patterns) and 100% determined to either knock out his opponent or take away their main gimmick. Also, Danger Sense is a crazy effective ability against the Infinity Gauntlet; Izuku can accurately detect threats and pinpoint it to the gauntlet itself, and given his higher Lifting Strength, he can pry it off (Danger Sense is a better ability than Spider-Man's unmastered Spidey Sense.) Thanos is a more general-based experienced fighter (given how he's conquered hundreds of worlds), however, he lacks Izuku's battles against those with crazy hax abilities.
Because this is Thanos with his Battle of Titan mentality, that means he plays it extremely safe. The reason being is because he's extremely confident with the power of the stones that he doesn't need to exert killing levels of effort, and not to mention, he lacks pre-knowledge of Izuku's abilities. The power stone's energy is variable and doesn't always exert Moon Level or higher force + Izuku's combination of Fa-Jin and OFA buffs (similar Plus Ultra) gives him speed/power amps. Thanos loses the gauntlet thanks to Izuku's Class E LS and six Blackwhips that he can conjure. Izuku is too smart to not realize that the Gauntlet is keeping Thanos as a relevant threat.
I vote Izuku
Because this is Thanos with his Battle of Titan mentality, that means he plays it extremely safe. The reason being is because he's extremely confident with the power of the stones that he doesn't need to exert killing levels of effort, and not to mention, he lacks pre-knowledge of Izuku's abilities. The power stone's energy is variable and doesn't always exert Moon Level or higher force + Izuku's combination of Fa-Jin and OFA buffs (similar Plus Ultra) gives him speed/power amps. Thanos loses the gauntlet thanks to Izuku's Class E LS and six Blackwhips that he can conjure. Izuku is too smart to not realize that the Gauntlet is keeping Thanos as a relevant threat.
I vote Izuku
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Thanos overpowered him twice. The second was Peter trying to attack him directly, and by maneuverability i mean his keen instinctive reaction and flexibility.
Thanos is a skilled experienced combatant, I doubt Deku Danger sense would keep him from evading all hits from Thanos, and that isn’t always the case in the series.
