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[MHA vs MCU] Deku vs Thanos
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You mean when he tried to web him up/yank him? Deku in that situation solo restrains Thanos with his colossal LS gap and way more prehensile and versatile Blackwhip.
Deku with Danger Sense activated is dodging every attack option Thanos has that isn’t from an Infinity Stone. Unless you can show me Thanos having as much skill as Nagant calculating Deku’s position and predicting where he would be despite him dipping in and out of line of sight in pitch darkness between buildings, Thanos is not hitting Deku through Danger Sense.
Also, even if Thanos is close enough to hit Deku, Deku just restrains him with Blackwhip, which Thanos has no answer for if Deku goes for the Gauntlet/his fingers first.
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Idk what all Thanos gets from the Space Stone or what he does in character, but phasing hax and teleportation sounds incredibly difficult to deal with.
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Thanos is an EG, he’s already more than qualified to do this by profile.
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Intelligence in science =/= can overwrite practical precog. EG but he can get hit by and didn’t insta win vs Captain America?
KaydeeX
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His combat feats don’t give him EG friend. Deku has better combat feats on every level from Thanos. He has EG due to his outlandishly high scientific intelligence.
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Please give me a single combat feat from any character that Thanos has defeated that is superior to Deku having an in-built practical precognition on top of the intelligence to calculate the trajectory of impossible angle bullets that can blitz him through his in-built practical precognition.
KaydeeX
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Why is this being downplayed so excessively? There’s really no reason to relist everything, since the information is already provided on the linked profile, which clearly demonstrates that Thanos outmaneuvered most of them—many of whom are classified as gifted-geniuses on a combative scale.
Also, Shigaraki, who was visibly brawling, has managed to land several strikes on Deku in this particular key.
Also, Shigaraki, who was visibly brawling, has managed to land several strikes on Deku in this particular key.
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Cool. None of them have Deku’s feats or Danger Sense. Not a single character Thanos has defeated even comes close to the things Deku has had to deal with and analyze in combat. Name a single one.
Those images don’t work and it doesn’t matter because Deku didn’t have danger sense when he fought Shigaraki in this key.
In a later key, when Shigaraki steals Danger Sense from Deku, he becomes untouchable without Deku blitzing him. So you have no argument from in universe of Danger Sense ever faltering unless you’re getting blitzed.
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Also “outmaneuvered” is hilarious when he has been hit by literally every person on that list except Hulk because he wasn’t going all out. Cap has hit him, Iron Man has hit him, Strange has hit him, Thor has hit him.
Thanos is not some combat skill god that cannot be touched and can see through precog-like abilities to hit you by calculating the trajectory of your movements.
He is a very skilled fighter in a verse with skilled fighters. None of their feats compare to Deku’s analytical prediction or can keep up with him through danger sense. Thanos is never getting a hit off here without the stones.
Thanos is not some combat skill god that cannot be touched and can see through precog-like abilities to hit you by calculating the trajectory of your movements.
He is a very skilled fighter in a verse with skilled fighters. None of their feats compare to Deku’s analytical prediction or can keep up with him through danger sense. Thanos is never getting a hit off here without the stones.
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That’s because Thanos was facing them all at the same time, which inherently made it easier for them to land occasional hits during the chaos. If it had been a one-on-one battle, the outcome would have been entirely different and likely another repeat of what happened with the Hulk.
Additionally, during Thanos battle against Spidey and gang, he was able to predict the majority of Spider-Man’s movements with precision, including the exact locations where he would jump out next. This is the same Spider-Man who successfully navigated and escaped the Mirror Dimension, relying purely on his mental calculations and analytical skills to outthink the environment around him.
He is also Described as the Genghis Khan of the Marvel Universe and unbeatable in 1-on-1 battle, having conquered thousands of worlds and being a much more polished fighter than Hulk, Thor and Loki.
Additionally, during Thanos battle against Spidey and gang, he was able to predict the majority of Spider-Man’s movements with precision, including the exact locations where he would jump out next. This is the same Spider-Man who successfully navigated and escaped the Mirror Dimension, relying purely on his mental calculations and analytical skills to outthink the environment around him.
He is also Described as the Genghis Khan of the Marvel Universe and unbeatable in 1-on-1 battle, having conquered thousands of worlds and being a much more polished fighter than Hulk, Thor and Loki.
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Fa Jin blitz?
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Iron Man 1v1 landed hits on Thanos.
He one time reacted to Spider Man coming from one of Strange’s portals to grab him, and Spider Man didn’t even have his actual Spider Sense fully unlocked yet. Peter was not doing any analytics or calculating when he was just lading hits in and out of portals that Thanos had to overcome with sheer skill. Him just being faster than Spider Man was enough.
Again, none of those statements are actual feats that compare to Deku’s ability to simply avoid any attack Thanos throws at him. Or are you telling me that Thanos knows every martial arts in the verse and beats Goku in a straight up hand to hand fight? Does Thanos beat every character on the wiki in a 1v1 because one author, in reference to their own verse, said that he can win 1v1 against characters in their verse?
Thanos attempts to hit Deku. Danger Sense activates and Deku is out of the way because he already knows where Thanos is going to attempt to hit him. Their speed is equal, which mean Deku will always and forever be keeping up with him, since Danger Sense already makes him untouchable if you have similar speed to him. The only way so far shown to get past Danger Sense is to be faster than it, which Thanos is not.
The moment Thanos attempts to hit Deku, Danger Sense goes off, he dodges, and Thanos is immediately restrained by dozens of Class P lifting strength tendrils that he will never escape from without the stones, so if Deku grabs the gauntlet he loses the match in a single move. Thanos does not know about Danger Sense, cannot possibly figure out he HAS Danger Sense, and already has absolutely 0 feats of analysis during combat that even compare to Deku’s baseline analysis of predicting someone who can blitz him to hit them or avoiding bullets by reverse calculating their trajectory.
Thanos does not have the skill feats required to deal with Danger Sense and analytical prediction. He has EG due to his scientific mind not due to any amount of physical combat skill he could ever muster up. No character you name or feat you give is going to be superior to Deku’s unless I missed something.
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False universalism. I’m in no way implying that since they are other factors to a battle. I do not wish to continue this since our respective views are different.
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Then why even bring up a quote of him beating everyone 1v1 but not providing any feats at all for the people he has beaten in relation to Deku?
Fine. Deku dodges any physical blow from Thanos and restrains him.
Can someone explain what Thanos’s mindset is with the Power and Space stone and what move he goes for first.
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He never yanked anyone’s soul, and if you’re referring to when he knocked away Strange’s clones or pulled Strange toward him, that was a mix of Soul + Power and Reality + Space respectively. He only has Power and Space here.
When has he restrained anyone with the power stone in combat? From what I saw he either defensively uses it to destroy things people hit him with, shoot generic blasts of power that can be survived or mixes it with other stones to do something.
KaydeeX
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…ok? He doesn’t have the soul stone. So that point doesn’t matter.
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Also you can literally see that it was both soul and power in the film so that description should be updated. Also that link doesn’t work.
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how in character is it for thanos to use the stones in this fight
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Regarding the first part, he uses the Space Stone to restrain Loki before killing him. He probably does it more, but I don't have the time to rewatch the entirety of the Titan fight to make sure of it.
Regarding the Power Stone blasts, it should be noted that they inherently have Deconstruction and Matter Manipulation on an atomic level, the resistence of several characters to this haxes comes from resisting this. He still needs to hit him with it, but it is something worth mentioning.
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Very much in character. IW shows him opting to use the IS more often than physical attacks
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Im reading a bit more into the space stone and in addition to the phasing (both on himself or making his opponnet go through things) and teleportion, it also has telekinesis and gravity powers, it how he was able to pull apart the moon. Its also stated as the stone that created that mini "black hole" vs strange and can make forcefields
KaydeeX
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the abilities of the space stone are undeniably cracked. since this is thanos with the gauntlet, it’s in character for him to use the stones powers to eliminate his opponent quickly. with the space stone, he can create force fields if he’s ever bound by black whip; these force fields are strong enough to repel iron man’s charged repulsor blasts, which are more lethal than than black whip’s dura.
if deku becomes too troublesome, thanos can counter by making him intangible then sending him through a wormhole, using his disoriented state to his advantage. additionally, the space stone has shown telekinetic abilities strong enough to affect the moon; while the exact LS of this feat hasn’t been calculated, it likely yields high results. Thanos can restrain Deku with the space stone and finish him off by atomizing him with the power stone.
Voting Thanos
if deku becomes too troublesome, thanos can counter by making him intangible then sending him through a wormhole, using his disoriented state to his advantage. additionally, the space stone has shown telekinetic abilities strong enough to affect the moon; while the exact LS of this feat hasn’t been calculated, it likely yields high results. Thanos can restrain Deku with the space stone and finish him off by atomizing him with the power stone.
Voting Thanos
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Thanos FRA. Without the stones Deku wins almost every time, but the stones even this out & give Thanos plenty of broken options in taking down Deku
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Deku isn't an idiot, seeing Thanos using his abilities through the gauntlet, he can use Blackwhip and his immense lift strength advantage to simply rip the gauntlet out of Thanos' hand.
Also, Thanos is on a timer, these arguments are based on Thanos getting desperate enough to try new things, when all Deku needs to do is charge up a Fa Jin powered attack strong enough to break Thanos' jaw or mortally wound him.
Fa Jin's speed advantage would ensure the hit lands squarely.
And honestly Thanos' combat skills are useless when your opponent can just instantly close distances with you or use massive Blackwhips to restrain you.
Something nobody has mention is how Thanos doesn't have Relativistic+ movement speed, only combat speed, meaning Deku would be running circles around him at Relativistic+ speeds, and he is a bit faster than Thanos as well.
That's another thing, Deku is faster than any of Thanos' attacks with the stones, meaning he could literally outrun them even without Fa Jin.
Also, Thanos is on a timer, these arguments are based on Thanos getting desperate enough to try new things, when all Deku needs to do is charge up a Fa Jin powered attack strong enough to break Thanos' jaw or mortally wound him.
Fa Jin's speed advantage would ensure the hit lands squarely.
And honestly Thanos' combat skills are useless when your opponent can just instantly close distances with you or use massive Blackwhips to restrain you.
Something nobody has mention is how Thanos doesn't have Relativistic+ movement speed, only combat speed, meaning Deku would be running circles around him at Relativistic+ speeds, and he is a bit faster than Thanos as well.
That's another thing, Deku is faster than any of Thanos' attacks with the stones, meaning he could literally outrun them even without Fa Jin.
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Thanos can end the fight by clenching his fist if Deku doesn’t act fast enough either.
If Thanos is getting the space stone, Bloodlust Deku or give him knowledge of the Gauntlet.
KaydeeX
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this will likely play out since Thanos lacks actual haxes without the gauntlet.
this back and forth will just create a stomp
