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I also agree with my man Azzy. I'm currently going through the games myslrf to make sure. Just...can't be around literally anyone while I play them. Game's gr8 tho.
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MGQ: Tiers and Speeds
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@Cal
I'd appreciate if you could let me know if you find anything about Ilias being universal or holy magic being a permanent part of Chaos, because looking at the wiki, I can not find anything, or only find statements that directly contradict those.
I'd appreciate if you could let me know if you find anything about Ilias being universal or holy magic being a permanent part of Chaos, because looking at the wiki, I can not find anything, or only find statements that directly contradict those.
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@Ant
The problem is, as I am unfamiliar with the game, I can only remove what is obviously wrong, and not insert new statistics in place.
The problem is, as I am unfamiliar with the game, I can only remove what is obviously wrong, and not insert new statistics in place.
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Im sorry for going a bit off topic here but how is such a disturbing verse allowed in this site?? It is SERIOUSLY disturbing stuff from what ive been shown. It goes way beyond mere hentai... Rape vore and underaged children and some other shit I dont even know how to explain whats going on..
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As long as none of that stuff's on the wiki, I personally don't really care.
Berserk is extremely ****** in a lot of areas, but I would never advocate for its removal if that wasn't part of the profile.
I'm more concerned with how either unsubstantiated or extremely wanked certain parts of the profiles seem to be. Everyone but Chaos seems to have some huge overstatement, and Chaos itself had to be fixed, previously.
Berserk is extremely ****** in a lot of areas, but I would never advocate for its removal if that wasn't part of the profile.
I'm more concerned with how either unsubstantiated or extremely wanked certain parts of the profiles seem to be. Everyone but Chaos seems to have some huge overstatement, and Chaos itself had to be fixed, previously.
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Berserk doesn't have facial Bukake being triggered for an actual attack move.
Nor does the plot revolve around you having sex, raping, to orher biZare fetishes to different half girls/animals Azzy.
Nor does the plot revolve around you having sex, raping, to orher biZare fetishes to different half girls/animals Azzy.
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I don't get it either, I know Berserk has had its weird moments but this is more of a common things IIRC.
Sorry if this isn't enough cropping or extreme but if this is on XVideos dude with all of these scenes with a length of an hour long, and in Parts, it seems to be a common occurance. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
Sorry if this isn't enough cropping or extreme but if this is on XVideos dude with all of these scenes with a length of an hour long, and in Parts, it seems to be a common occurance. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
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And? The plot not revolving around it does not have any sort of effect on how obscenely common and easy it is to find. If someone sees or Berserk profiles and goes, "Golly gee! I sure want to read Berserk!", they're gonna find some ****** up shit. The same applies here. If a profile can be made without any of the obscenity, I have no qualms with it.
I have never so much as touched a game from this series, but I am against removal of profiles for purely personal reasons, as long as said profiles themselves do not contain any of the extremely mature content.
I have never so much as touched a game from this series, but I am against removal of profiles for purely personal reasons, as long as said profiles themselves do not contain any of the extremely mature content.
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If I was a berserk fan id be outraged at the comparison.
The entire plot seems is as grudge has described. Just purely.. messed up...hentai.
The entire plot seems is as grudge has described. Just purely.. messed up...hentai.
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This has a hentai animation, I thought we didn't allow it? Can I go make "Name a Hentai verse" on this site, if I just don't show any inappropriate content?
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@Aizen
I love Berserk, which is part of why I made said comparison. This is not an issue of quality.
I love Berserk, which is part of why I made said comparison. This is not an issue of quality.
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@Azzy berserk doesn't revolve around sex though. It's a very mature manga for sure. But the main focus isn't sex, meanwhile monster quest is literally a hentai game where the literal MAIN focus of the game is defeating monster girls via ******* them in all sorts of ways.
Didn't we take down the Adam conover page because he was borderline a YouTube/celebrity character. Yet we are okay now with stright up hentai. Not even just a mature game. It's literally a Hentai azzy you can't deny if you have played the game.
Didn't we take down the Adam conover page because he was borderline a YouTube/celebrity character. Yet we are okay now with stright up hentai. Not even just a mature game. It's literally a Hentai azzy you can't deny if you have played the game.
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Actually, that's the exact opposite of the plot, and you avoid getting f***ed. The slogan is "lose and be raped!" (That's not helping my point...)
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Hmm. If the verse is THAT messed up, I also do not know if it was a good idea for me to allow it. I thought that it was just softcore.
I was told in private that since we allow Demonbane, and other verses like it, we should allow this as well, for the sake of consistency, but if it is very extreme, barely has any plot, and no quality to speak of, I agree that it sets a very bad precedent, and should probably be removed.
I was told in private that since we allow Demonbane, and other verses like it, we should allow this as well, for the sake of consistency, but if it is very extreme, barely has any plot, and no quality to speak of, I agree that it sets a very bad precedent, and should probably be removed.
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@Grudge
Berserk has multiple scenes of sexual abuse, rape, extreme violence, etc. A lot of them. The plot doesn't revolve around them, but that doesn't matter. At all. They are a frequent thing you will encounter when reading through Berserk. If an admin is offended by Berserk, should we remove it?
As long as these are actual characters and none of the obscene or offensive imagery is posted or linked on their profile, I genuinely could not give a shit what the character's source material portrays. I am extremely opposed to getting rid of something just because of personal distaste.
Berserk has multiple scenes of sexual abuse, rape, extreme violence, etc. A lot of them. The plot doesn't revolve around them, but that doesn't matter. At all. They are a frequent thing you will encounter when reading through Berserk. If an admin is offended by Berserk, should we remove it?
As long as these are actual characters and none of the obscene or offensive imagery is posted or linked on their profile, I genuinely could not give a shit what the character's source material portrays. I am extremely opposed to getting rid of something just because of personal distaste.
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I already knew that you lose by being raped, but it's a bit funny how its not mentioned on the verse page. If we can accept the slogan "lose and be raped!", then I might as well ask if we can approve someone like the anti-hero Rapeman, but just exclude all the parts about the action of rape.
Another cropped example, this happens in every battle IIRC. Yeah, you can lose and get raped, but you can't disregard the fact THAT YOU CAN LOSE AND GET RAPED.
Another cropped example, this happens in every battle IIRC. Yeah, you can lose and get raped, but you can't disregard the fact THAT YOU CAN LOSE AND GET RAPED.
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Well, it has a pretty solid plotline from what I know, it's just that there's also a lot of ****.
Kav disagreed with allowing the verse in the past due to the issues it could cause for our wiki, and I'm inclined to agree here.
Kav disagreed with allowing the verse in the past due to the issues it could cause for our wiki, and I'm inclined to agree here.
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@Ant
Again, I have never played any of these games, but it seems to be an actual game with an actual story and actual art, so how would one objectively define "no quality"?
I am inclined to bring up back when I first joined the wiki, and you deleted multiple profiles I made for the Cthulhu Mythos simply because you found the series ideologically distasteful.
If the profiles are to be deleted, delete them for a legitimate reason, as I have pointed out, currently nobody but Chaos has any legitimate or supported ratings on their profiles, despite high stats and powerful abilities.
Again, I have never played any of these games, but it seems to be an actual game with an actual story and actual art, so how would one objectively define "no quality"?
I am inclined to bring up back when I first joined the wiki, and you deleted multiple profiles I made for the Cthulhu Mythos simply because you found the series ideologically distasteful.
If the profiles are to be deleted, delete them for a legitimate reason, as I have pointed out, currently nobody but Chaos has any legitimate or supported ratings on their profiles, despite high stats and powerful abilities.
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For starters, excuse me if I'm a little...off kilter right now. There's a legit reason, but can't say why due to rules.
You can (potentially) avoid that, though there is a chance it can happen anyway if you take too long, even if you don't lose. Anyway, like I was saying, the plot of the game has nothing to do with sex, or at least very minimally. Sex is as much apart of the game as mushrooms are for Mario. Purely a game mechanic.
You can (potentially) avoid that, though there is a chance it can happen anyway if you take too long, even if you don't lose. Anyway, like I was saying, the plot of the game has nothing to do with sex, or at least very minimally. Sex is as much apart of the game as mushrooms are for Mario. Purely a game mechanic.
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@Azzy I know the plot of Berserk, I love the series, I've read it cover to cover.
but comparing Berserk to MGQ, is like comparing Rated R movies to rated XXX.
but comparing Berserk to MGQ, is like comparing Rated R movies to rated XXX.
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Well, I personally agree with Kavpeny, LordAizenSama, Promestein, and Grudgeman that a game that revolves around rape, vore, and paedophilia, with very limited plot thrown in, cannot be compared to a serious, if disturbing, series like Berserk. Allowing such works opens bad doors for allowing anything whatsoever, which would give our wiki an extremely bad reputation.
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"In a world, where monsters take the forms of women who lust after a substance only men can give them, one boy is fated to change everything forever. And to continuously get raped doing so."The real cal howard said:
Actual plot, just game mechanics?
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I honestly don't care either way. I felt no different when the verse wasn't here than when it was. I'm simply being akin to that lawyer who was assigned to defend the guilty defendant. Pardon my analogy.
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@Grudge
Having now read through Berserk, though having not played any of MGQ, I genuinely find it difficult that its worst is that much different than something like, say, that demon horse that molested, licked, and tried to rape Farnese (especially in terms of something purely disgusting), unless you are more referring to sheer quantity of such things.
Having now read through Berserk, though having not played any of MGQ, I genuinely find it difficult that its worst is that much different than something like, say, that demon horse that molested, licked, and tried to rape Farnese (especially in terms of something purely disgusting), unless you are more referring to sheer quantity of such things.
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I'd like to point out Luka is not a child, at least not by the verse's terms. The baptism is supposed to be a coming of age ritual, so Luka is considered an adult by the verse's standards. The only queue we have for his age other than that is that he's younger than 21, that's all.Antvasima said:
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@Azzy you do realize those moments aren't treated EROTICALLY. All the moments of rape,sex,and lust are treated like how most people would. With absolute horror and disgust.
Meanwhile MGQ is legit taking every rape and sex scenes to extreme levels of eroticism.
Meanwhile MGQ is legit taking every rape and sex scenes to extreme levels of eroticism.
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Nothing in MGQ tops Femto raping Casca to literal stupidity while looking in her boyfriend Guts' eyes the entire time while he watches bound in horror.
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Okay, going by Thebluedash's quote, I definitely do not want that kind of verse featured here. It will inevitably lead to lots of demands for very extreme and inappropriate content, give us a reputation as a wiki that endorses rape and paedophilia, and possibly get us in trouble with the official fandom staff.
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Can you guys honestly with a straight face or with a honest heart say you play Monster Girl Quest for the PLOT.
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Again, I can go either way for this. I'm simply just doing a favor for my friend Saik to defend the verse. Unlike Adam, I won't put up a fight over the official decision.
Again. Sorry if I sound different from normal.
Again. Sorry if I sound different from normal.
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@Grudge
...That's what makes it infinitely more disturbing, though. How horrific said moments are portrayed as to give a legitimate sense of trauma and fear. I'm not saying it's not art, because Berserk is amazing, but if we are going only by how completely ****** up something is, I find the shit in Berserk much, much more disturbing than a monstergirl game made for people to beat off to, which is more just gross.
...That's what makes it infinitely more disturbing, though. How horrific said moments are portrayed as to give a legitimate sense of trauma and fear. I'm not saying it's not art, because Berserk is amazing, but if we are going only by how completely ****** up something is, I find the shit in Berserk much, much more disturbing than a monstergirl game made for people to beat off to, which is more just gross.
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And was that treated sexually no. Every diehard or normal berserk fan views that scene as one of the saddest if not THE saddest moment in berserk. It was horrible, horrendous, disgusting and meant to be TAKEN that way. Who watches that scene unless your into thst suit and say "oh that's hot thanks for the fanservice Kentaro."The real cal howard said:
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