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Mewtwo vs Shadow
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Mewtwo is dwarf star level and his mind hax can severely ruin Shadow's day.
He takes it with speed equalized.
He takes it with speed equalized.
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^^^
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Well Shadow does have a speed advantage since PMD Mewtwo has unknown speed.
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Speed is equalized.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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I did not see that somehow... Anyway just like in my Mewtwo vs Silver thread Mewtwo wins.
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Since this is going to be the next DB, bump.
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Mewtwo via DC and Me First.
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Isnt Me First game mechanics and a potential NLF?Dragonmasterxyz said:
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No as it counts as Precognition and copy abilities. But it's just that he doesn't move faster than his foe. It won't effect speed.
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It's on his file.
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Precognition i get but for copy abilities what limit is it at?
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likely anything except like Conceptual Manipulation or thing like that. Any type of energy attack should be fine.
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Kk. So that means as long as the said users attack isnt higher than Mewtwo's lvl, Mewtwo will copy it?
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Likely he'll use a weaker variation of it. But that's what power swap is for 
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Lmao then whats Power Swaps limit xD?
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That is tricky. Likely anyone 3-A and Below if Mewtwo is fast enough.
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But i thought Mewtwo was only 5-A
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He's High 5-A. Power Swap swap AP while Guard Swap Swaps Durability.
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Kk. So then why exactly would power swap be able to obtain levels of power such as 3-A?
Sorry if im bothering u about this i just really want to get this straightend out to use myself in the future lol
Sorry if im bothering u about this i just really want to get this straightend out to use myself in the future lol
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Well just like Durability Negation it can effect stronger foes. For example, If Mewtwo fought Beerus with Speed Equalized, There is a chance Mewtwo may use Power Swap. What would likely happen is that Mewtwo AP would become Universal while Beerus' Ap would become Dwarf Star Level. Same deal with Guard Swap.
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Kk i see. Thank you very much
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but remember that's if he gets a chance to use it. It's best to ask Mighty about it.
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Kk. Now would Skill swap count for anything or is that just plain game mechanics?
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Likely Game Mechanics but ask Mighty just in case.
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If speed is not equalized then do people think that Shadow wins?
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I realized that I never answered. Mewtwo's mind hax has a lot on Shadow, and super form can and will run out. Plus, the swaps are still a thing, along with me first.
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Sorry but we decided that the swaps would be a NLF. But Me first is still a thing.The real cal howard said:
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Yeah. Noticed that shortly before you replied. I posted a responce after you replied though, so I didn't see this^ until after I posted.
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Something that I think a lot of people forgot about was Psych up, which gives any stats changes that Shadow might do to Mewtwo. So if Mewtwo were to get this off right after Shadow uses Super form then Mewtwo would get the same boost. Speed could be a major factor here but if Mewtwo can get a trick room off (if we are using TMs in the battle) then Shadow's speed would leave him at a disadvantage for a while. Then again, Shadow has Chaos Control and is much faster then Mewtwo, so he could get a couple of hits in before Mewtwo uses something like Trick Room. It could go either way.
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no tm's and speed is equalized in this fight.
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If speed is equalized then Trick Room wouldn't matter anyways. The only thing that Shadow has above Mewtwo now is Chaos Control.
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Actually i just thought, wouldnt Trick Room sortve count as low level reality warping since its changing the laws of the space it's enclosed in to make the user faster while the opponent slower? A more better example of laws changing when Trick Room is activated is when, in the XY anime, Ash uses Talonflame against the fairy type gym leader. One of her pokemon uses trick room and so on happens. Ash tries to counter it's effects by having Talonflame use Flame Charge over and over to try and make talonflames speed increase. But according to Clement, because of Trick Room's effects, Talonflame was actually getting slower, not faster.
Does anyone have a thought about this? I'll make a thread about this too in a sec so other ppl can put their thoughts in.
Does anyone have a thought about this? I'll make a thread about this too in a sec so other ppl can put their thoughts in.
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trick room is a tm move for Mewtwo last I checked.
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Maybe but if prep is involved wouldnt mewtwo have it?
Also, my statement about Trick Room was more in general, not just specifically towards mewtwo. My bad
Also, my statement about Trick Room was more in general, not just specifically towards mewtwo. My bad
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i was just going through the whole chaos control thing and read that it can stop time,entirely..............
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However only for a little bit.
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Due to Mewtwo having a higher attack potency, he is winning this, plus he could read Shadow's mind and react to him with more ease since speed is equalized.
Shadow will still give him a hell of a battle tho, due having superior hax (time stop + teleportation)
Shadow will still give him a hell of a battle tho, due having superior hax (time stop + teleportation)
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Mewtwo has teleportation as well. All average psychic type pokemon have teleportation hax
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I'd just like to point out that Shadow has Telepathy resistence feat from Black Doom in Shadow the Hedgehog, Black Doom can be debated to not be on Mewtwo's level but he isn't fodder, it should also be noted he tried to control Shadow via sharing the same blood so he had an advantage in controlling him that Mewtwo doesn't have.
Even if Mewtwo has Teleportation how much can he spam it? Since Death Battle is coming up it's likely they will count Hero Shadow and Dark Shadow from Shadow the Hedgehog as "counters" for Mewtwo's X and Y forms.
Not sure if they are going to use Shadow Mewtwo from Pokken Tournament but if they did I'm guessing that is Super Shadow's Counter.
Even if Mewtwo has Teleportation how much can he spam it? Since Death Battle is coming up it's likely they will count Hero Shadow and Dark Shadow from Shadow the Hedgehog as "counters" for Mewtwo's X and Y forms.
Not sure if they are going to use Shadow Mewtwo from Pokken Tournament but if they did I'm guessing that is Super Shadow's Counter.
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