Meruem vs the Doom Slayer

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Again that means nothing, in every possibility they foresaw, they lost. In every single possibility they cannot counter what Doomguy has no matter what they do so their precognition is virtually useless. Either this or Makrys didn't act on what he foresaw in game/lore or there's more context to how they died. So how did Makrys actually die?

Also they knew all his possible moves but not what he would favour because each possibility would be different. So they would have to try and counter literally everything he could do which they obviously did not. In actual combat Meruen knows what Doomguy will favour to do because of his bias.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Doesn't matter if he has Reactive Power Level, Meruem was able to counter Netero who was faster than him. He just needs to whittle away at Doomguy and counter his attacks by precoging and dodging them. Meruem closes the AP gap with Nen, Accelerated Development and possibly eating parts of Doomguy stealing his power.

Meruem also has the abilities of his Royal Guards, in particular Pouf in which Doomguy cannot resist.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Yeah, mindhax in millions

 

[DTG499]

That 2x gap is going to stay there for the remainder of the fight no one in HxH has reactive power level. His precog isn't going to help him here either and you keep misunderstanding the quote about the makyrs. When they can see all the infinite possibilities they can see what he's going to attacks he's going to favor too! Nothing is going to pan out differently because they can literally see all infinite timelines with "omniscient inextricable clarity". And they can time travel!

Doomguy resists mind hax and death hax.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Meruem does and Gon does. Nen also has distinctive amplification, Ryu, Gyo etc.

I already told you why their precog is useless. Also how did they die exactly?

Does he resist it in the millions?

 

[LordUrien935]

Doomguy's resistance to mindhax comes from being unaffected by Buff Totems. Doesn't sound like it's in the millions range.

 

[LordUrien935]

That 2x gap is going to stay there for the remainder of the fight no one in HxH has reactive power level.

That is not true.

 

[Strawboi]

Meruem has re and high-mid to high regen how can doomguy bypass the regen.

 

[SpookyShadow]

The regen is if he can clone himself

 

[DTG499]

Meruem does and Gon does. Nen also has distinctive amplification, Ryu, Gyo etc.

I already told you why their precog is useless. Also how did they die exactly?

Does he resist it in the millions?

And I told you why your reasoning is flawed.

 

[DTG499]

Doomguy's resistance to mindhax comes from being unaffected by Buff Totems. Doesn't sound like it's in the millions range.

How long did it take him to mind hax millions? It said 24 hours on the page if so DG can resist.

 

[DTG499]

That is not true.

Trying to argue whose reactive power level acts quicker is pointless. But if you want to we do have proof that doomguy's reactive power level can take him to 7-A where as we have no proof what level Mereum's reactive power level can take him to in AP.

 

[SpookyShadow]

He didn't go to 7-A in the entire DOOM 2016 doe

 

[DTG499]

He didn't go to 7-A in the entire DOOM 2016 doe

Because he was literally stomping everyone. The highest level demon was an 8-A.

 

[DTG499]

This might be a mind hax stomp anyway.

 

[SpookyShadow]

He needs to inhale the mindhax dust to me mindhaxed, so.

 

[DTG499]

If that's the case he'll never get mind haxed. One because of his helmet and two because of his Self-Sustenance type 1

 

[SpookyShadow]

That's why it's not a mindhax stomp like you've said

Anyway, Meruem has many amps.

 

[DTG499]

As does doomguy, before he got the divinity machine buff he had the capability of surpassing the sentinels in the middle of the fight. After the buff he revived a passive constant power increase.

 

[Jangles211]

Doomguy can resist mind hax from The hell priests, who are capable of mentally effecting billions of demons and controlling hell titans.


A Single BFG shot should destroy him via heat alone.

 

[SpookyShadow]

What's the proof?

Especially when it doesn't one shot any boss which is far weaker than Doomguy himself. Not to offend anyone, but I have to agree with Weekly that Doomguy is a bit wanked recently...

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

And I told you why your reasoning is flawed.

No you didn't, you just keep repeating how the precognition works and not refuting anything I said directly.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

A single BFG shot will not kill Meruem. Lol.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Doomguy can resist mind hax from The hell priests, who are capable of mentally effecting billions of demons and controlling hell titans.


A Single BFG shot should destroy him via heat alone.

I highly doubt Hell Priests have mind hax and it's probably more so the demons are literally their soliders.

 

[SpookyShadow]

A single BFG shot will not kill Meruem. Lol.

Especially when Zero Hand, an attack far stronger than BFG itself exists, and Meruem survived it while barely damaged.

 

[ThisThingisReallyBroken]

Except their magic is literally described as psychomancy(magic that affects the minds and the ability to manipulate them)

The Archiville has a fear aura around him all the time,doomslayer resists

The Icon of Sin has mind manipulation magic being fired as one of his main attacks.

The Hell priests can command lesser demons to do their bidding with mind manipulation

How about just check the damn page for doomguy?

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

And any internal damage won't work because of how thick his exoskeleton is.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Except their magic is literally described as psychomancy(magic that affects the minds and the ability to manipulate them)

The Archiville has a fear aura around him all the time,doomslayer resists

The Icon of Sin has mind manipulation magic being fired as one of his main attacks.

The Hell priests can command lesser demons to do their bidding with mind manipulation

How about just check the damn page for doomguy?

Literally none of his page states the potency. You should start a CRT.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Imagine being salty about that.

Anyway mindhax isn't even a factor when he has a helmet that protects him from inhaling it. Still, hand to hand combat matters. And as a DOOM fan for years, I have to say that Doomguy doesn't really come close.

 

[ThisThingisReallyBroken]

Archville's mind manipulation drove soldiers to biological insanity

Hell Barges are SLAVES,and the priests do control them via mind manipulation

The Icon of Sin is now 7-A,his mind manipulation should be able to control titans since he is above the priests.

 

[SpookyShadow]

And it's 2016 Doomguy, not ETERNAL Doomguy.

 

[ThisThingisReallyBroken]

Even so,the guy has been stated to been alive for billions of years in a constant fighting state with no rest whatsoever.Having pushes beyond mortal wounds,he received training from both the Knight Sentienls and the Marine core(since Doomguy and doomslayer are the same).Doomguy definitely wins out on hand to hand and experience.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

That literally doesn't mean anything. Being alive for billions of years doesn't automatically make you a supreme hand-to-hand combatant. I'm pretty sure this guy just ploughs through demons rather than masterfully taking them out.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Those are just statements, no actual feats that come close. He has been stomping fodder for eons, not comparable opponents.

 

[ThisThingisReallyBroken]

7-B Doomguy vs Mereum (Doomguy wins due to sheer power and reactive power level)

7-C versions are used (Mereum is low 7-C while Doomguy from 2016 is still higher and can beat him down)

Doomguy wins

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Ok buddy

 

[ThisThingisReallyBroken]

Well he's defeated a titan with mostly just his hands(even the dev's state it in an interview) and I'm pretty sure he has put that training to use when fighting other larger demons as well.Either way Doomguy wins the strength category.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Strength means nothing to Meruem.

Given that he knows Doomguy's entity arsenal, coupled with his smarts, this places him at an immense advantage. Meruem is extremely pragmatic, almost to the point of paranoia, stemming from plays hours of gungi against Komugi. So much so that as listed earlier, he'll pick up any subconscious traits as the fight goes on. Doomguy will have a hell of a time trying to even hit Meruem, as precog that literally predicts infinite possibilities of attack (different from actual timelines) means that Meruem will always pick the most optimal tactic for victory.

Both have the same range, however Meruem can simply continue bombarding him with AOE Rage Blasts, that get stronger as the fight goes on. He takes on all of Youpi's anatomy, meaning he can construct thousands of eyes, tendrils, weapons, if he so wishes. It's not out of character, because while not a dishonorable fighter, he will do whatever it takes to win. The longer and longer Doomguy takes to kill him means the longer Meruem has to figure out his entire fighting style.

Voting Meruem, 8/10.

 

[DTG499]

Doomguy is going to grow in power at the same rate as mereum so the 2x gap is going to stay there for the remainder of the fight. He was able to beat multiple sentinels a race of people who only live to fight. Doomguy with no hand to hand combat experience was beating the shit out of all of them and mastering their combative techniques in the mist of battle. He wasn't winning by over powering them either, the average sentinel is 9-A and doomguy at the time was 9-B.

Doomguy has fought and killed someone who is able predict all infinite possibilities, the only thing she could see with he cosmic awareness precog is her dying and was unable to predict what he was going to do. So meruems precog is useless here.

Doomguy has had to live for eons dodge a constant barrage of projectiles from a literal countless horde of demons. The weapons mereum will use won't be an issue for him, even when he does get hit it would do any game changing damage because that 2x dura gap is still there.

Mereum is not going to be able to resist the heat of the BFG since it's stated to be hotter than 2 million kelvin, meruems bee core would get vaporized from it. Even if he doesn't get hit by a direct shot the heat from a BFG tendril will make his body and core undergo cell death.

Doomguy in character goes in for the kill he's not going to waste anytime. This fight would not last long.

I vote doomguy

 

[Strawboi]

The only King fra.