Meruem vs Ken Kaneki (Grace)

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Who wins and why?

• Speed Equalized
• In character
• Pre-Rose Meruem and Post-Dragon Kaneki are being used
• SBA everything else

VOTES:

• Newborn Genius:
• Emo Kid: 7 (AKM, Velox, Jimboy, Anttron, SladeWilson, Vastolorde, Dragonpentling)
• Inconclusive:

I shall checkmate you soon...


All losses in this world are due to a lack of ability

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Early bump

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Bump

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Bump

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Za Bumpo

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Bump

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Bumop

 

[AKM sama]

Meruem is Low 7-C via being stronger than 8-A characters, while Kaneki is also a tad above baseline Low 7-C, so I don't think anyone here has a considerable AP advantage over the other.

The things goin for Meruem are flight and range via energy projection. Teleportation could also play an important role. But Kaneki has a greater skill set overall. He has Regenerationn negation and reactive power level which can help to some extent. He is also good at reading his opponents.

This is a good match and I'm not sure atm. I'll save my vote for later.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

This key of Meruem doesnt have Flight nor Energy Projection tho

 

[AKM sama]

Oh my bad then, that tips the match in Kaneki's favour.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Bump

 

[StrymULTRA]

I'm gonna say meruem via Fear Aura and Power Mimicry

 

[AKM sama]

Don't see Power Mimicry in his profile, and it won't help because their is nothing to mimic from Kaneki since Meruem doesn't have a kagune.

Fear Manipulation won't help either since it can be overcome by bravery, willpower and courage.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Don't see Power Mimicry in his profile, and it won't help because their is nothing to mimic from Kaneki since Meruem doesn't have a kagune.
Fear Manipulation won't help either since it can be overcome by bravery, willpower and courage.

"Limited Power Absorption (Gains the aura and abilities of anyone that he consumes)"

My bad, i said that wrong

 

[AKM sama]

Kaneki doesn't have an aura and Meruem would need to consume him first.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Bump

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Bump

 

[Anttron224]

Inconclusive for reasons above

 

[AKM sama]

Nobody voted inconclusive and I'm voting Kaneki for my reaons above.

 

[Anttron224]

Y'alls reasons for one or the other winning is why I'm voting inconclusive

 

[AKM sama]

There are no valid reasons for Meruem to win in the "reasons above", yet.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Bump

 

[Anttron224]

Well actually, if he took chunks out of Kaneki's Kagune and ate them he could manifest his own via the mechanics of Ghouls and Rc cells as well as his own power absorption via consumption. Also doesn't Kaneki have hundreds or Kagune at this point? It shouldn't be too difficult for Mereum to eat some or at least parts of some.

 

[AKM sama]

Meruem isn't a ghoul. He can't just eat his kagune and produce his own (even if that's not how it works).

 

[Anttron224]

Power absorption

 

[Anttron224]

The page even states that non ghouls exposed to an excess of Rc cells will develop ghoul like characteristics, let alone some one who already gets powers from consumption

 

[AKM sama]

There's a scientific surgical procedure for ghoulification, which has a very low success rate, needs excessive amounts of RC cells and takes a lot of time before a human can be able to use his new ghoul body to its fullest. You can't just eat RC cells and become a ghoul.

His "power absorption" allows him to gain aura of others which is meaningless here. He needs to consume much of the body of someone to even gain their hatsu. It's not a potent ability which is helping Meruem here.

Scratch it all, a ghoul actually needs to eat another's kakuhou to gain their kagune which Meruem doesn't know about, and he'd need to put Kaneki down first in order to do that.

 

[Anttron224]

He gains both their aura and abilities. To say it's just aura absorption is demonstrably false.

 

[AKM sama]

Already covered when I said - "He needs to consume much of the body of someone to even gain their hatsu/abilities. It's not a potent ability which is helping Meruem here."

And it doesn't refute my point in any way whatsoever.

 

[Anttron224]

Kaneki has hundreds of kagune, Mereum will definitely be able to get enough biomass for consumption.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Kaneki For AKM Reason Above

 

[AKM sama]

Kaneki has hundreds of kagune, Mereum will definitely be able to get enough biomass for consumption.

He doesn't use hundreds of kagune at the same time. And did you not read my previous comment? He would need to consume Kaneki or his kakuhou for it to work. Consuming a part of his kagune isn't enough.

And that's assuming Kaneki will just let him eat his kagune. The moment Meruem gets close, Kaneki gains the offensive advantage.

 

[Dragopentling]

I'm kinda siding with Anttron here, but I still dunno who's more likely to win, exactly.

Also, both sides are in-character, correct?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Also, both sides are in-character, correct?

Yes

 

[AKM sama]

I'm kinda siding with Anttron here, but I still dunno who's more likely to win, exactly.

His argument is objectively wrong and doesn't hold, as I have already explained why.

 

[Dragopentling]

His argument is objectively wrong and doesn't hold, as I have already explained why.

Well, that still doesn't change the fact I haven't picked a side yet. The explanation on Kaneki's case to win is not something I can agreed on unless someone else wants to take the explanation one step further.

 

[AKM sama]

"I'm kinda siding with Anttron here" clearly gives the feeling that you were "siding with Anttron", hence my comment.

Regen negation, higher versatility, reactive power level, the advantage of having a sword and few extra large appendages that can streach, attack, tear, impale, slice and eat your opponent are not good enough reasons? Well surely they don't make it a stomp but they do give a clear advantage to Kaneki and make the match decisive.

 

[Eganergo]

Well Netero's extra limbs and versatility didn't help him win though.

I dunno about this but shouldn't Meureum get Reactive Power Level as well?

I'm not voting for anyone for now.

 

[Dragopentling]

"I'm kinda siding with Anttron here" clearly gives the feeling that you were "siding with Anttron", hence my comment.
Regen negation, higher versatility, reactive power level, the advantage of having a sword and few extra large limbs that can streach, attack, tear, impale, slice and eat your opponent are not good enough reasons? Well surely they don't make it a stomp but they do give a clear advantage to Kaneki and make the match decisive.

okay, but, is the simple phrase "I'm not ready to pick a side yet" not a good enough answer for you?

I hope I'm not being forced to vote at gunpoint here.

 

[AKM sama]

Well Netero's extra limbs and versatility didn't help him win though.

Textbook definition of false analogy.

I dunno about this but shouldn't Meureum get Reactive Power Level as well?

You should make a CRT about it and get it accepted.

I hope I'm not being forced to vote at gunpoint here.

Massive straw man. I never suggested that in any way, shape or form. You are free to not vote if you like.