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Melzargard split form upgrade

ZillertheBucko

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Remove the unknown from Melzargard's split form, scale them all to 7-C
https://imgur.com/a/aYk9tBI
I would also argue that a 5x multiplier is fitting for his merged form, as he literally has 5 times the mass after merging (basically a black sperm situation but without the contradictory statements), but it doesn't really matter as long as he is "much higher when merged" or something to that effect.
once the speed stuff gets all ironed out this will also mean high hypersonic or whatever for the split form as well, but the speed being higher in merged form isn't necessary either.
 
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ZillertheBucko said:
I would also argue that a 5x multiplier is fitting for his merged form, as he literally has 5 times the mass after merging (basically a black sperm situation but without the contradictory statements), but it doesn't really matter as long as he is "much higher when merged" or something to that effect.
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Not enough for a multiplier, but does work for "higher".
 
What's the reasoning for removing the 'unknown' rating for split Melzargard?

I'm neutral, leaning toward disagreeing with the 5x multiplier.
 
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Multipliers

A multiplier is generally some number a different number is multiplied with to get a new number. For our VS Battles use we more specifically refer to a number as multiplier, if that number is multiplied with some statistic of a character or its attacks to get a new statistic for the character...
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Multipliers come from direct statements instead of being reasoned from something else. That means, for example, that if a verse has powerlevels or statistics, the doubling of a statistic or power level should not be concluded to correspond to the power of the character doubling, unless it is clearly specified to work that way.
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Disagree with the multiplier. Neutral on 7-C Separated Melzargard
 
ImposingTiger said:
He ripped his arm off an instant before.
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In his merged form. Melzargard assumed that because he was able to easily rip off Iaian's arm, that he was weak enough to be beaten by his split form. Because he was able to easily rip off his harm, he has no way to know specifically how much weaker he is compared to his merged form's AP.

To give an example, let's say that merged Melzargard had an AP of 100. To be able to easily take off Iaian's arm, his durability could be anywhere from 0 to lets say 50. This would in turn scale split Melzargard to Iaian's 0 to 50. However, because Melzargard has no way of actually knowing how durable Iaian is due to how easily he took his arm off, we can't say for sure how strong Melzargard's split form is, which is why we currently rate him with 'unknown' AP.
 
Kachon123 said:
In his merged form. Melzargard assumed that because he was able to easily rip off Iaian's arm, that he was weak enough to be beaten by his split form. Because he was able to easily rip off his harm, he has no way to know specifically how much weaker he is compared to his merged form's AP.

To give an example, let's say that merged Melzargard had an AP of 100. To be able to easily take off Iaian's arm, his durability could be anywhere from 0 to lets say 50. This would in turn scale split Melzargard to Iaian's 0 to 50. However, because Melzargard has no way of actually knowing how durable Iaian is due to how easily he took his arm off, we can't say for sure how strong Melzargard's split form is, which is why we currently rate him with 'unknown' AP.
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Him ripping it off easily doesn't mean he has no idea of Iaian's durability. When Melz strikes he is not an unconscious killing machine. He, as everyone else, can actually feel the hardness of the muscle, the density of the bone that the individual he is hitting possesses.
 
ImposingTiger said:
Him ripping it off easily doesn't mean he has no idea of Iaian's durability. When Melz strikes he is not an unconscious killing machine. He, as everyone else, can actually feel the hardness of the muscle, the density of the bone that the individual he is hitting possesses.
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Iaian got hit with the pressure/shockwave of his attack.
 
Kachon123 said:
Iaian got hit with the pressure/shockwave of his attack.
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Did he? I thought that he did get hit by it and that the leftover energy just created that shockwave
but if you're gonna argue that happened, then I could argue "Melz is confident that one of his split forms would be strong enough to kill someone who died to the literal air pressure of an attack from his previous form" which would be reasonable.

Then the split mass form would be 7-C scaling directly to Iaian, while his merged form is far higher given that the shockwave alone was able to destroy his arm.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
Did he? I thought that he did get hit by it and that the leftover energy just created that shockwave
but if you're gonna argue that happened, then I could argue "Melz is confident that one of his split forms would be strong enough to kill someone who died to the literal air pressure of an attack from his previous form" which would be reasonable.

Then the split mass form would be 7-C scaling directly to Iaian, while his merged form is far higher given that the shockwave alone was able to destroy his arm.
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This line of reasoning makes a bit more sense.
 
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