Meliodas VS Ymir Fritz

[Abscoolguy]

Low 7-B forms


Speed Equalised

melodias: 1

ymir: 2

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I mean Meliodas is strong enough to defeat Ymir,but can he sweep all of the titan (million Colossal Titan?) she control?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

They actually shouldnt be too far off in AP and Ymir's Hardening may be enough to stave off damage from Mel's attacks (Given how its consistently shown to be several times more durable than the user's normal durability) and her AoE hardening hives her pretty good battlefield control

Can Mel do anything about being turned into a Titan with a scream?

Also Purgatory shouldnt do much against Ymir's Titan regen as she creates her titan via an outside source

 

[Abscoolguy]

so is it

melodias: 1

ymir: 1

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

What? I'm not voting yet,so does Weekly,we need an good argument for Meliodas side right now.

 

[Abscoolguy]

so its still 0-0

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I don't think Vel voted yet and im waiting for responses before making my vote

 

[Abscoolguy]

ok then

melodias: 0

ymir: 0

 

[Abscoolguy]

bump

 

[Schnee_One]

Mel can't even beat its regen less I remember incorrectly

Also pretty sure there's nothing to stop Ymir for going BLEGH and making him a Titan.

This may or may not be a stomp

 

[RavenSupreme]

Meliodas has regen cancel.

 

[Schnee_One]

What regen can it cancel though? I don't remember it cancelling Mid-High

 

[RavenSupreme]

It managed to prevent Ban, a mid-High regen character, to fully heal the affected body part with a slice. He imbued his sword with demon flames for this.

His demon flames can cover his entire enemy if he so choses however.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

That wont do anything to Ymir given how her titan body works

 

[RavenSupreme]

What do you mean? Meliodas can entirely surround his enemy with Hellblaze, which cancels Regenerationn from Mid-High regenerative characters and continues to burn until he dispells it.

Can you elaborate how that should not work? From what I understood, she also only is scaled to possibly low 7B, whereas Meliodas is comfortably ~3MT at that point in time, meaning he has the means to damage her.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Because her titan body is just a puppet, its not Ymir herself as her titan body operates independantly from her human body. If her titan body is destroyed she can simply create a new one from nothing.

Also Hardening should prevent him from doing a lot of damage

 

[Abscoolguy]

so

melodias: 1

ymir: 2

 

[RavenSupreme]

I dont understand it. Is Ymirs body located elsewhere from her Titan body? From what I underatand the Titanshifters are literally inside the Titans. And simply creating a new body does not work within seconds either. Her entire being engulfed in flames would also not allow that.

Hardening doesnt take away the difference in strenght as well.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes, it's located elsewhere as she has the remote operation ability of the warhammer titan, she's not inside the titan she's somewhere else operating it from a distance. And yes actually recreating actually new body is nigh unstant, this has been shown several times throughout the series.

Hardening actually does actually nods it amps ap ass well

 

[RavenSupreme]

How far away are we talking? Meliodas can sense people from hundreds of miles away.

Was there a multiplier or an implied multiplier for hardening?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

A few hundred meters away.

Hardening consistently makes it so that enemies that can harm you without it cant even scratch you. Using the math from the calcs we have here for regular vs hardening durability the increase is about 12x as a bare minimum

 

[RavenSupreme]

Can you link me those calcs? And on what level would it leave Ymir? She is 7C, so hardening would push her to Low 7B I guess

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The feat all of the non-hardened Shifters scale to, 9.72384e+8 Joules

The feat Hardening scales to, 1.186164e+10 Joules (Specifically because Levi was able to stomp the character who performed said feat but is unable to even scratch Hardening)

Ymir is baseline Low 7-B

 

[RavenSupreme]

Thanks for the feats, so the 1.86+e10 would be additive to the Low 7B scaling from Ymir?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes, Hardening being several times more durable than a Titan's regular durability is consistent throughout the whole series and hasbeen demonstrated to be the case for virtually every character who uses it, which would include Ymir

 

[RavenSupreme]

I dont know the details of that scaling but I can accept it. But it would not be enough to fend off Meliodas in my eyes.

He scales to at least 1.6-3.2 Megatons in that form, which is more than Ymir + Hardening can withstand.

 

[RavenSupreme]

Edit: I just wanted to link the calc but apparently Meliodas doesnt even have a low 7B key anymore. Apparently it starts with 7A now?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ymir without Hardening is 1 Megaton

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Edit: I just wanted to link the calc but apparently Meliodas doesnt even have a low 7B key anymore. Apparently it starts with 7A now?

Aww lol and right when we were getting to the good part

 

[RavenSupreme]

Its 440 Megatons from what I gathered.

Yeha thats a difference from 1-3MT

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Meliodas isn't even Low 7-B anymore, so maybe a stomp now.

 

[RavenSupreme]

Yeha that match definetly is outdated.