Meliodas Vs Akko

[azontr]

Oh by the way, where do y'all stand. Anyone ready to vote?

I already voted for Akko byeeeeeee.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Another mistake I made when I made my argument. I said that Akko's Regen Negation only goes up to Low-High when that actually surpasses Meli's regen of Mid. So, that's not a problem for her.

 

[azontr]

Another mistake I made when I made my argument. I said that Akko's Regen Negation only goes up to Low-High when that actually surpasses Meli's regen of Mid. So, that's not a problem for her.

Glad we cleared that up, cause I was like "what...?" But didn't want to correct you lol.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Glad we cleared that up, cause I was like "what...?" But didn't want to correct you lol.

Yeah it was like 3 AM for me and its a wonder why I thought as well as I did lmao.

 

[azontr]

Yeah it was like 3 AM for me and its a wonder why I thought as well as I did lmao.

I feel you lol.

But yeah, my vote is for Akko, to remind you.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

I feel you lol.

But yeah, my vote is for Akko, to remind you.

Yeah, I already counted your vote.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Akko FRA i guess

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Akko via far higher AP and speed + transmutation FRA.

Edit: I just realized speed got equal.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

That's two votes for Akko.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Akko via far higher AP and speed + transmutation FRA.

isnt speed equal?

 

[DimeUhDozen]

isnt speed equal?

Yes.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

OP haven't equalized speed since beginning, at least that what i known.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Speed became equalized after the speed gap was too huge. So we decided to give Meli more of a chance, but Akko still has the lead with versatility and AP.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

I'll stay with Akko until someone counter my argument.

 

[azontr]

I'll stay with Akko until someone counter my argument.

Nobody wants to counter your argument lol. I'm 99% everybody agrees witch girl makes demon boi cri.

 

[Bernkastelll]

What is the argument?

 

[Jamesthetaker]

The one where i vote Akko above.

 

[Delta333]

Akko FRA

 

[Bernkastelll]

Akko via far higher AP and speed + transmutation FRA.

Edit: I just realized speed got equal.

While the Akko is stronger, she is only 3x stronger than base Meliodas, and the difference is far less with Lostvayne, as Lostvayne is only 2x weaker, and Meliodas 3000 years of combat experience should be able to deal with it, mainly that he has no problem to fight even when he is in a almost dead state, transmutation can be countered with Full Counter, and the speed thing, well, you know

 

[Bernkastelll]

While the Akko is stronger, she is only 3x stronger than base Meliodas, and the difference is far less with Lostvayne, as Lostvayne is only 2x weaker, and Meliodas 3000 years of combat experience should be able to deal with it, mainly that he has no problem to fight even when he is in a almost dead state, transmutation can be countered with Full Counter, and the speed thing, well, you know

Also, there also has Revenge Counter, when Meliodas is almost dead and use the Revenge Counter to deal all the damage that he took to the enemy


I dont think that the current votes to Akko are valid

 

[DimeUhDozen]

While the Akko is stronger, she is only 3x stronger than Meliodas, but Meliodas 3000 years of combat experience should be able to deal with it, mainly that he has no problem to fight even when he is in a almost dead state, transmutation can be countered with Full Counter, and the speed thing, well, you know

The fight could basically equate to Ganondorf tennis since Akko has her own shields of her own to defend against it, mainly Curse Shield. And since Akko can get some good damage in while Meli has a harder time with that due to the AP gap, he'll eventually be forced to go with Wrath to even the odds. However, this'll leave him open to attack and Akko's wincons -- Not to mention telekinesis rag-dolling, paralysis/body puppetry, sleep, the Shiny Rod and others coming into play.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Actually, she is 5x times stronger than Meliodas, not counting Lostvayne. Have he ever reflect attacks way above his tier?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Actually, she is 5x times stronger than Meliodas, not counting Lostvayne. Have he ever reflect attacks way above his tier?

Low 7-B Meliodas was going to use Full Counter in Monspeet, then yeah

 

[Jamesthetaker]

This is Sealed key Meliodas so the feat doesn't applied to his unsealed key.

 

[Bernkastelll]

The fight could basically equate to Ganondorf tennis since Akko has her own shields of her own to defend against it, mainly Curse Shield. And since Akko can get some good damage in while Meli has a harder time with that due to the AP gap, he'll eventually be forced to go with Wrath to even the odds. However, this'll leave him open to attack and Akko's wincons -- Not to mention telekinesis rag-dolling, paralysis/body puppetry, sleep, the Shiny Rod and others coming into play.

I mean, Meliodas doesnt really need to go Wrath, he can extend the fight until he uses Revenge Counter, which returns all the damage that he took to the enemy

This is Sealed key Meliodas so the feat doesn't applied to his unsealed key.

I said that because thats the whole purpose of Full Counter, reflecting attacks that doesnt matter the power, it would be a outlier to apply it to all tiers, but the gap between Meliodas and Akko is far less than Meliodas in that key and Monspeet, so yeah, Full Counter will work

 

[DimeUhDozen]

I mean, Meliodas doesnt really need to go Wrath, he can extend the fight until he uses Revenge Counter, which returns all the damage that he took to the enemy

I said that because thats the whole purpose of Full Counter, reflecting attacks that doesnt matter the power, it would be a outlier to apply it to all tiers, but the gap between Meliodas and Akko is far less than Meliodas in that key and Monspeet

Meli has to be conscious enough to activate Full/Revenge Counter though. If Akko ends the fight with a sleep spell then he won't have the chance.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Meli has to be conscious enough to activate Full/Revenge Counter though. If Akko ends the fight with a sleep spell then he won't have the chance.

How likely is Akko tu use the sleep spell? also, can't Meliodas full counter it?

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Character cannot reflect attack above their tier, unless proven otherwise. Sealed key are weaker so the same thing might not apply to every forms.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

How likely is Akko tu use the sleep spell? also, can't Meliodas full counter it?

Very likely. Dream Wind/Sleep is part of her standard arsenal. It would be harder to counter an attack like the standard sleep spell since it's not a wave of energy. It's a puff of smoke that appears around the victim's head.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Character cannot reflect attack above their tier,

Not really how it works, the gap is small, as Meliodas is really far into High 7-C and Akko really weak into Low 7-B, the Gap actually is less than a normal human and a fighter

 

[Bernkastelll]

. It's a puff of smoke that appears around the victim's head.

Fair enough

 

[Bernkastelll]

Not really how it works, the gap is small, as Meliodas is really far into High 7-C and Akko really weak into Low 7-B, the Gap actually is less than a normal human and a fighter

Also, actually, it was the High 7-C Meliodas that was going to use Full Counter in Monspeet (High 7-A), because in the moment that Meliodas become Low 7-B after gaining his powers, he instantly goes to the 10 commandments, and Monspeet case happend way before, so, it was High 7-C meliodas

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Fair enough

Plus IC, Akko would probably try to find a way to incapacitate the enemy rather than kill them. I think this is how she would likely try to finish the fight.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Akko maybe can survived her own attacks and she have other spells as well. Take note that Akko is 5x times stronger than him, nearly into one-shot territory, every of her attacks will caused critical damage to him.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Akko maybe can survived her own attacks and she have other spells as well. Take note that Akko is 5x times stronger than him, nearly into one-shot territory, every of her attacks will caused critical damage to him.

Akko AP is 31 megatons, Meliodas AP is 8,2 megatons The gap is only around 3 times, it is FAR lower than the gap between a normal human and a fighter, but Meliodas is way better fighting than Akko, thats not really a big problem, mainly that the gap between his sword and Akko is only 2 times, thats not even close to one shot territory

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Akko maybe can survived her own attacks and she have other spells as well. Take note that Akko is 5x times stronger than him, nearly into one-shot territory, every of her attacks will caused critical damage to him.

Considering she frequently recovers from her own spells that backfire in her face, this shouldn't be too much of a problem for Akko, not to mention she's taken hits from boss characters like the Time Demon and the Ghost Witch, who can basically attack sponge attacks like Shiny Arc, Akko's signature one-shot move.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Akko AP is 31 megatons, Meliodas AP is 8,2 megatons The gap is only around 3 times, it is FAR lower than the gap between a normal human and a fighter, but Meliodas is way better fighting than Akko, thats not really a big problem, mainly that the gap between his sword and Akko is only 2 times, thats not even close to one shot territory

Where did the 8.2 megatons come from?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Where did the 8.2 megatons come from?

From his page?

 

[Epsilon_R]

From his page?

That's 196 kilotons

 

[Jamesthetaker]

That is High 7-C feat not Low 7-B.