Medaka vs Yogiri Takatou

[Gohanblanco217]

Speed equalized

Both are bloodhusted

Medaka has full knowledge about Yogiri abilities

Medaka has 1 year of prep

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Fatehax + Death = Stomp

 

[Eganergo]

Not if Earl says otherwise!

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Death + Fatehax = Stomp

Medaka has full knowledge over his abilities which means she has the same abilities as him so not a stomp

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Yogiri's fatehax can null other fatehaxes so it doesnt matter

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Yogiri's fatehax can null other fatehaxes so it doesnt matter

Considering Medaka has the the same fate hax ability as Yogiri then I could also say the same for Medaka

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Ok then

>They both think each other way

>Yogiri is later resurrected by an abstract eldritch being

 

[PhantomØ4]

Medaka can’t even copy 2-B abilities, can she? Whats stopping her from going insane due to knowing the nature of a Yogiri (a must if she has knowledge of his abilities)?

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Medaka can’t even copy 2-B abilities, can she? Whats stopping her from going insane due to knowing the nature of a Yogiri (a must if she has knowledge of his abilities)?

Yogiri ability is 2-B only due to it's range so I don't see why she can't copy it(I mean range doest really matters, does it? All Fiction has a universal range yet she was still able to copy it just fine)

 

[PhantomØ4]

No, Instant Death is a smurf ability not only range.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

No, Instant Death is a smurf ability not only range.

what?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Smurf = Higher D stuff

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Smurf = Higher D stuff

OH, but isn't All fiction a 4D ability? If yes then I don't see why she can't copy his 4D death hax and Fate hax

 

[PhantomØ4]

Yeah, in other words it has 2-B potency, not only 2-B range

 

[PhantomØ4]

Well, in any case, how would Medaka not go insane?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

1. I've explained before and I'll maybe make a CRT in the future about this. ID is not 2-B in potency. It's low 2-C in potency. Killing a 2-B dude doesn't give you 2-B death hax. Just baseline 4D.

2. If meda has knowledge, she just AF's him and calls it a day no?

 

[Gohanblanco217]

1. I've explained before and I'll maybe make a CRT in the future about this. ID is not 2-B in potency. It's low 2-C in potency. Killing a 2-B dude doesn't give you 2-B death hax. Just baseline 4D.

2. If meda has knowledge, she just AF's him and calls it a day no?

So ID has only a 2-B range?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

She will die if she tries to AF him.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

1. I've explained before and I'll maybe make a CRT in the future about this. ID is not 2-B in potency. It's low 2-C in potency. Killing a 2-B dude doesn't give you 2-B death hax. Just baseline 4D.

Also, no need to do this. I myself will do a thread about it.

 

[PhantomØ4]

2-A tho

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

2-A tho

Avatar doesnt scale smh

 

[Firephoenixearl]

She will die if she tries to AF him.

Didn't we say that Yogiri can "make" it so that ppl passively die if they show killing intent? Not that he has it on.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Medaka is bloodlusted lol (both are)

Plus, thinking is still his first move when not bloodlusted, so best case they both die

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Exactly, however All Fiction is retroactive so it would win.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

She still needs to think , though

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Yeah but once she thinks "Yogiri was never there to begin with".

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

And she will also die

Plus, he resists causality manip

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Thing is, if Yogiri was never there he never death haxed.

As for resistance to Causality Manip, that doesn't apply to him, that applies to his ID.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

>He never death haxed

But his ability is beyond causality, so it will work

 

[Everything12]

Instant Death has Immeasurable speed and can deal with Retroactive powers.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

What about copying ID would it still work? Considering she has full knowledge about his abilities

 

[ThePirateKing777]

What about copying ID would it still work? Considering she has full knowledge about his abilities

That’s what I was going to say. That if Yogiri Takatou doesn’t kill her before then.

 

[PhantomØ4]

Again, what would stop her from going insane when she learns of the nature of ID to copy it. Btw Yogiri was already attempted to be retroactively erased so that he never existed but it did not work albeit that is in raws but Instant death is beyond cause and effect and does not have a real connection between Yogiri thinking and the opponent dying.

 

[Everything12]

Instant Death is

Spoiler

some sort of Eldritch entity that exists throughout Time and Space and seems to embody the end of everything, and is possibly Yogiri's true form

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Again, what would stop her from going insane when she learns of the nature of ID to copy it. Btw Yogiri was already attempted to be retroactively erased so that he never existed but it did not work albeit that is in raws but Instant death is beyond cause and effect and does not have a real connection between Yogiri thinking and the opponent dying.

Did you just change your name?

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Instant Death is

Spoiler

some sort of Eldritch entity that exists throughout Time and Space and seems to embody the end of everything, and is possibly Yogiri's true form

........

 

[Firephoenixearl]

>He never death haxed

But his ability is beyond causality, so it will work

Fair yes. Inconc then.

 

[PhantomØ4]

I mean, if one would wait a little we could get Yoigiri's page up to date and get the type 9 added like it should be. This should not be an incon

 

[YungManzi]

1. I've explained before and I'll maybe make a CRT in the future about this. ID is not 2-B in potency. It's low 2-C in potency. Killing a 2-B dude doesn't give you 2-B death hax. Just baseline 4D.

This point has been discussed and debunked before. Because there are situations where ID can actually destroy things, so it's hax but not completely. In most situations it's just death hax but at its highest it can destroy entire multiverses of timelines. Which btw, might be getting upgraded, not to 2-A but solid 2-B and higher in the tier.

Other than that, Yogiri stomps.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

He'll probably get 2-A stuff too, but its complicated