Medaka vs Karna, Medaka tries to take on another Nasuverse top tier Servant

[Walking_Strawman]

The Lancer of Red Who Resists Everything vs Intentional Marry Sue

Gil lost, but I think Karna stands a better chance since he resists most of Medaka's abilities. His defensive hax makes him a good counter to many characters with massive hax arsenals. lets see how this goes

Both at their strongest. Both sides are blood lusted. Speed is Equalised. The Hero is resitricted, because Karna is weak to getting plot'd out of his wins kek


Karna Throws his Spear


Hold her back


(May God have Mercy on Our Souls)

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Gilgamesh resists everything Karna resists. I don't see how Karna has a better chance at defeating her.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Alright, let's roll with this. First question, what's Vasavi Shakti's level of destruction? Can it damage spirit form Heroic Spirits? And let's try to avoid wanking either character. Please?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Imma say Medaka since she already won against Gil.

 

[Walking_Strawman]

Alright, let's roll with this. First question, what's Vasavi Shakti's level of destruction? Can it damage spirit form Heroic Spirits? And let's try to avoid wanking either character. Please?

At least large planet level, possibly higher. At its highest, Solar System level. Does it matter if it can? i am unsure.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

The easiest way to perma-kill Medaka is Soul Destruction.

 

[Walking_Strawman]

Oh that? yes, he can indeed purge souls, if that is your question

 

[Schnee_One]

Imma say Medaka since she already won against Gil.

Gil is only slightly stronger, and doesn't have beat as many resistances or skill.

Also can't Karna just kill with conceptual erase from his NP or did that get debunked?

 

[Walking_Strawman]

I'm pretty sure both can put the other down somehow, but the question is who does it first and with what difficulty

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

So it seems Lancer's only/best method of putting down Medaka is Super Death Spear. Problem is, Super Death Spear comes out at the cost of his Super Hax Armor, which is resisting most of Medaka's best stuff. Both are Bloodlusted, which is different from Medaka vs Gilgamesh. I'm gonna say inconclusive. Bloodlusted means Lancer will probably pull out his SDS, which means losing SHA. Bloodlusted Medaka will definantly go for All Fiction straight off.

Yeah, Inconclusive. If Gilgamesh had been Bloodlusted I could see it being Inconclusive there too.

 

[Walking_Strawman]

Medaka: 0 (the arguments that based Karna losing because Gil lost have been sufficiently debunked imo)

Karna: 0

Incon: 1

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Full power Gilgamesh doesn't need to be bloodlusted because he doesn't job.

As for this, I'll wait for more input.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Well resist most stuff, that's ok. Will it resist Encounter doe? I mean u know Encounter can insta-kill using underhanded methods. My fav way: She stabs herself or uses any killing hax on herself then pushes the death onto Lancer. It doesn't count as Death Inducement btw.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

No one ever used Encounter to push damage onto other people. And Medaka wouldn't be underhanded like that anyway.

 

[Walking_Strawman]

Vasavi Shakti bypasses defensive hax and abilities my guy. It will pretty much just ignore Encounter as far as i can see. This of it like Book Maker in that regard.

Also, I don't think Medaka would ever need to do that. Karna has enough regen that even spawning conceptual spikes inside of him to shred his organs he just kinda shrugged off. I don't think there is anything Medaka would do with just some self made Voodoo like that

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Yeah, my points still stand. While Bloodlusted this is a whoever hits first fight.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

No kidding, I thought this thread is Veloxt doing.

 

[Walking_Strawman]

Yeah, my points still stand. While Bloodlusted this is a whoever hits first fight.

i was replying to Fire, I agree with your sentiments.

This really does come down to who kills with hax first.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

I was just reiterating in general, not at anyone in particular.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Btw what's the proof that All Fiction can't come back from soul hax? Or is it just a thing that "since it hasn't been shown we can't apply it"?

 

[Walking_Strawman]

Low Key, If we assume the statements in Ajimu's hax spam aren't to be taken seriously, then there is some evidence that souls do not exist in Medaka Box. A thread might need to be made about it

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Low Key, If we assume the statements in Ajimu's hax spam aren't to be taken seriously, then there is some evidence that souls do not exist in Medaka Box. A thread might need to be made about it

Shall i make a thread about it, or do u want the pleasure?

 

[Walking_Strawman]

Please go ahead. Make sure you take the Kumagawa regaining All Fiction scene into account. Along with, there not being an after life in Medaka Box, The 'dream world' (which is reached by a time travel skill if anything) only exists because of Ajimu and dies with her, and anything close to a soul is more close to a general conciousness

also, tell them that iapitus supports it

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

My Reaction

 

[Walking_Strawman]

@Vel

this thread or the soul stuff? lol

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

This thread lol,why do you did this for meh!!?

 

[Walking_Strawman]

Because a bunch of Medaka spam is going on and Karna needs more matches lol

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

But this is not what i expecting for Karna match!!

This MB spam......


It's time to Stop!!!

 

[Walking_Strawman]

I mean I'm just happy its getting noticed. I don't care about who wins or loses so long as it isn't extremely bent towards losses and it gets well known

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I actually want to make a waifu battle now. Rias Vs Medaka, Let the best waifu win.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Medaka had only faced with a few of heavy hitters, which pretty much she was either lose or get stomped.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Medaka had only faced with a few of heavy hitters, which pretty much she was either lose or get stomped.

Define "heavy hitters".

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

You know...

...Some characters that have hax or resistance beyond their own tier like this dude or this drago.

Hell, even people like this thing, this fodder or even him would be too much for Medaka.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

You know...
...Some characters that have hax or resistance beyond their own tier like this dude or this drago.

Hell, even people like this thing, this fodder or even him would be too much for Medaka.

Methuselah and Golden King are too much for Medaka? And it depends on which reinhard we take tbh. Though i don't know much on these guys.

 

[GalaxianAegis]

I don't see why the Encounter wouldn't work on Vavasi Shakti. Is there a specific moment where Karna was capable of overcoming Attack Reflection like that? I don't recall any such instance happening.

 

[Kami95]

I think Medaka has a pretty good chance to win with Bookmaker, since sealing Ajimu for 3 years should be well beyond what BB can do so his resistance to power null would likely be insufficient, but I'm a filthy secondary who only watches Fate animes so Idk ovo

Medaka > Sieg > Karna.

 

[Walking_Strawman]

I'll take Kami as a vote for Medaka, but does anyone else have a vote to place?

Medaka: 1

Karna: 0

Incon: 1

 

[Kami95]

It's not a vote, I don't know enough about the level of Karna's resistance, I'll just wait and see.

 

[Walking_Strawman]

oh i see

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Medaka > Sieg > Karna.