MCU Tier 6 Upgrades?

[Emirp sumitpo]

Tier 4 is certainly not happening lol

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Tier 4 is certainly not happening lol

A man can dream

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Tier 4 MCU

Spoiler

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

A man can dream

How dare you show some semblance of optimism on this site

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

That could be explained away as the gauntlet took most of the power surge

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I wouldn’t mind scaling it above the Hadron Enforcer, but scaling it to supernovas and quasars definitely won’t be accepted

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I wouldn’t mind scaling it above the Hadron Enforcer, but scaling it to supernovas and quasars definitely won’t be accepted

No, it won't, too big of an upgrade based on a quote and simple logic and nothing to back it up unfortunately

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Since we're at it, do you think it's possible to at least make some Eternals profiles, more precisely fighters like Thena (drafts are ready except for Kingo so I can make at least Thena and Gilgamesh right now)?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

No, it won't, too big of an upgrade based on a quote and simple logic and nothing to back it up unfortunately

I guess. I’m just voicing my thoughts. There is Rocket’s statement on Nidavellir weapons too tho

Since we're at it, do you think it's possible to at least make some Eternals profiles, more precisely fighters like Thena (drafts are ready except for Kingo so I can make at least Thena and Gilgamesh right now)?

Yeah. I don’t see why not

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Thena and Gilgamesh are done people. 3 Eternals out of 10 (nine if we aren't planning on making a profile for Ajak)

I also have drafts for Druig, Phastos, Sersi and Sprite (haven't made some for Kingo, Makkari and Ajak though) so as soon as we agree on their tier, I can make them

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Some stuff I've red on the MCU wiki

"They can survive the vacuum of space without any protection or breathing gear, compared to most organics who would rupture blood vessels and suffocate shortly after exposure. Because they are artificial and not biological, they do not qualify as part of “life in existence,” allowing them to survive spells or events that specifically target living beings, such as the Snap."

"The Eternals are fueled by infinite cosmic energy, imbued upon them by Arishem during their creation. They use this energy to keep their bodies regenerating indefinitely."

Don't know if we can use that for other Eternals, like giving them all Regeneration, self-sustenance and resistance to Magic, Bio Manip and even death but it's still good to note, Chloe Zhao also confirmed the Eternals survived the Snap because they're synthetic. I think we can also make a common profile for the Eternals like we did with the Celestials (so not a team profile but a "species" profile)

 

[ArkhamDC06]

He is

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Is that overall speed or just combat/reaction speed? Because I think the only Eternals that should have overall Rel Speed would be Ikaris and Makkari

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Is that overall speed or just combat/reaction speed? Because I think the only Eternals that should have overall Rel Speed would be Ikaris and Makkari

It's combat and reaction speed. Only Makkari has overall Relativistic speed

 

[Lacku]

On the subject of the Eternals, I'm not sure if the "thinkers" of the group should all scale to Low 6-B, like Druig should probably scale since Ikaris tried to kill him and he survived but members like Ajak opt to use weapons like a shotgun to defend herself from deviants, which makes me believe she might below 9-C ap wise, as well as Sprite who gets knocked out by getting bonked on the head by a rock

 

[Lacku]

not sure if this has already been discussed on here already

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

like Druig should probably scale since Ikaris tried to kill him and he survived

Wasn't there an argument about Joker not scaling because he was amped by the unimind or something?

 

[ArkhamDC06]

On the subject of the Eternals, I'm not sure if the "thinkers" of the group should all scale to Low 6-B, like Druig should probably scale since Ikaris tried to kill him and he survived but members like Ajak opt to use weapons like a shotgun to defend herself from deviants, which makes me believe she might below 9-C ap wise, as well as Sprite who gets knocked out by getting bonked on the head by a rock

Sprite was also seen harming a Deviant who could harm Kingo with her knife, wich is a very simple one, and Sersi was also able to harm another ith a branch turned into a normal metal bar. There's also Phastos who endured no visible damages after being shot directly by Ikari's optic beams while attacking the Domo and from the destruction of the Domo itself

 

[ArkhamDC06]

not sure if this has already been discussed on here already

Still in discussion

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

and Sersi was also able to harm another ith a branch turned into a normal metal bar.

Didn't all she do was make a tree fall while at the same time make it metal to impale the deviant?

 

[ArkhamDC06]

That was something else, she does both

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Bump

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

We STILL need to talk about the meteor and CM missile feat instead of derailing with extreme outliers

 

[ArkhamDC06]

We STILL need to talk about the meteor and CM missile feat instead of derailing with extreme outliers

Definitely

 

[ArkhamDC06]

But do we have an idea for the thinkers Eternals tier?

 

[Lacku]

I'm certain that Ajak has to scale either to Wall level since she survived a large fall from a cliff or below Street level since she would rather use a shotgun to fight deviants than her own strength, maybe Wall level durability with at most Street level ap on her own?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

ouch

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I'm certain that Ajak has to scale either to Wall level since she survived a large fall from a cliff or below Street level since she would rather use a shotgun to fight deviants than her own strength, maybe Wall level durability with at most Street level ap on her own?

Druig seems to be in the same boat, he preferred to use a rifle rather than his own physicals against the Deviant in his village but he did knock out Sprite who has arguments for her and Sersi scaling to Tier 6 for harming Deviants.

 

[Lacku]

yeah with the other thinkers it gets way more complicated

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Druig seems to be in the same boat, he preferred to use a rifle rather than his own physicals against the Deviant in his village but he did knock out Sprite who has arguments for her and Sersi scaling to Tier 6 for harming Deviants.

At most 9-C, possibly Low 6-B?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

For Kingo, does he have any durability feats?

His AP should be Tier X, higher with charged blasts.

LS and SS not sure Tbh

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

At most 9-C, possibly Low 6-B?

Better to go with just unknown if they have no good feats.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

For Kingo, does he have any durability feats?

His AP should be Tier X

Dura automatically scales to AP.

 

[RoTt35]

Ajak hadn't endured a slice from a bloodlusted Thena?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Dura automatically scales to AP.

Are you sure about that? There's term thing called Glass Cannons

And if you mean this portion from the Durability page:

Logically, characters capable of physically achieving a certain degree of energy output, must be able to at least withstand a comparable amount of damage, or their bodies would break apart from the strain and automatic counterforce, whenever they exert themselves.

I don't think this applies to Kingo

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Ajak hadn't endured a slice from a bloodlusted Thena?

yeah but she was heavily breathing and healed herself as quick as possibel so it was clearly deadly

 

[ArkhamDC06]

At most 9-C, possibly Low 6-B?

I would rather say At least 9-C, possibly Low 6-B

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I'm certain that Ajak has to scale either to Wall level since she survived a large fall from a cliff or below Street level since she would rather use a shotgun to fight deviants than her own strength, maybe Wall level durability with at most Street level ap on her own?

I don't know if Ajak will even get a profile honestly, she's the Eternal with the weakest number of feats, wich amount to healing herself and others and easily endure a large fall (wich would be 9-B at best) honestly, the other Thinkers all have some good showing of hurting people and Deviants that have arguments to scale to tier 6 and most of all interesting showings of durability like enduring powerful strikes from Deviants that can harm Gilgamesh and Ikaris

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Dura automatically scales to AP.

Basically this Q&A

https://vsbattles.com/threads/is-ap-automatically-equal-to-to-durability-so-far-the-user-doesnt-break-down-from-the-usage-of-the-attack.119365/

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

don't think this applies to Kingo

What's the evidence of him being a glass cannon?