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MCU Phase 6 General Discussion Thread

If there is debate for higher Mcu scaling there is also the black hole grenades which i haven't seen a calc on but if i use the black hole page they land around large planet (using the chart) and Thors hammer being stated by Odin as:

"Thor Odinson, my heir, my first-born. So long entrusted with the mighty hammer, Mjølnir. Forged in the heart of a dying star. It's power has no equal as a weapon to destroy, or as a tool to build. It is a fit companion for a king"
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So based on statement this could be used to argue Mjolnir>black hole grenades and possibly Bifrost aswell.

Also taking this into consideration Mjolnir is described as being borned inside a star on more occasions which suggest it was the neutron star at Nidavellir which means it would have to survive the pressue a neutron star holds around 10^33–10^34 pascals which would yield planetary results.
 
Isaacbobanka said:
Also taking this into consideration Mjolnir is described as being borned inside a star on more occasions which suggest it was the neutron star at Nidavellir which means it would have to survive the pressue a neutron star holds around 10^33–10^34 pascals which would yield planetary results.
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I gave it a try and got Pre-Stellar and 5-C, although I don't know if the same method had already been used/proposed before
 
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How strong do y’all think base doom will be ?
 
darkphantom9805 said:
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How strong do y’all think base doom will be ?
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From my point of view, Doom's danger in direct combat not only comes from raw strength but his versality. I expect him to be strong enough to physically fight against some of the heavy hitters and use more esoterical abilities (please tell me he will use both magic and tech please tell me he will use both magic and tech) to deal with the most troublesome.
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
From my point of view, Doom's danger in direct combat not only comes from raw strength but his versality. I expect him to be strong enough to physically fight against some of the heavy hitters and use more esoterical abilities (please tell me he will use both magic and tech please tell me he will use both magic and tech) to deal with the most troublesome.
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I’m expecting Iron Man Endgame+Doctor Strange taken to the nth level in his base. I think the magic+super armor would be cracked, because of one of Strange’s limitations, is that he’s still physically vulnerable to people he’s stronger than.
 
RoTt35 said:
Supposedly it's calc stacking so it's invalid, I was told
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Is the calc stacking part only you using that blog for the surface area of Mjolnir? If that's the case why not just calculate the surface area yourself to make the calc valid.
 
Lacku said:
Is the calc stacking part only you using that blog for the surface area of Mjolnir? If that's the case why not just calculate the surface area yourself to make the calc valid.
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The calc stacking is using the pressure/force that Uru can endure, so neither LS nor AP for Hela are valid, supposedly
 
The Punisher: One Last Kill is now out, getting the honor of being the last new MCU project I watch before I graduate from university next week.

The story doesn't get a ton of time to be developed, and isn't entirely resolved by the end, but the action gets to be a highlight. Frank gets to showcase plenty of skill in both close and ranged combat, and he gets some decent supporting feats that should be in the 9-C to 9-B range. He just keeps managing to walk off all sorts of stuff, including getting set on fire (even while on fire, he smashes through a door and fights people), a fall that causes him to dent in the top of a rooftop HVAC unit, another fall that causes him to break through several wooden boards, plus all the hits he takes from massive number of thugs he has to fight through.
 
Dinobot1996 said:
The Punisher: One Last Kill is now out, getting the honor of being the last new MCU project I watch before I graduate from university next week.

The story doesn't get a ton of time to be developed, and isn't entirely resolved by the end, but the action gets to be a highlight. Frank gets to showcase plenty of skill in both close and ranged combat, and he gets some decent supporting feats that should be in the 9-C to 9-B range. He just keeps managing to walk off all sorts of stuff, including getting set on fire (even while on fire, he smashes through a door and fights people), a fall that causes him to dent in the top of a rooftop HVAC unit, another fall that causes him to break through several wooden boards, plus all the hits he takes from massive number of thugs he has to fight through.
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Well congrats for your work!
 
Dinobot1996 said:
The Punisher: One Last Kill is now out, getting the honor of being the last new MCU project I watch before I graduate from university next week.

The story doesn't get a ton of time to be developed, and isn't entirely resolved by the end, but the action gets to be a highlight. Frank gets to showcase plenty of skill in both close and ranged combat, and he gets some decent supporting feats that should be in the 9-C to 9-B range. He just keeps managing to walk off all sorts of stuff, including getting set on fire (even while on fire, he smashes through a door and fights people), a fall that causes him to dent in the top of a rooftop HVAC unit, another fall that causes him to break through several wooden boards, plus all the hits he takes from massive number of thugs he has to fight through.
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Gotta send my congrats before I forget. Also, I’ve heard people comparing The Punisher: One Last Kill with the Raid, do you think it’s an accurate comparison?
 
I'm a little confused on how we treat timelines. From the Cosmology page it seems like a spacetime continuum would be Low 2-C, and the entire timeline is 2-A. But I recently saw on his page that Dormammu's power was used to split a timeline, but he isn't 2-A either? Curious if I'm missing something.
 
Legion350 said:
I'm a little confused on how we treat timelines. From the Cosmology page it seems like a spacetime continuum would be Low 2-C, and the entire timeline is 2-A. But I recently saw on his page that Dormammu's power was used to split a timeline, but he isn't 2-A either? Curious if I'm missing something.
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That's because Ancient One explicitly states that she split the timeline in two to allow both to occur in one universe, so she split the universal space-time continuum rather than the entire multiversal timeline
 
Hi yall, Im doing some research on Captain Marvel's profile for my own profiles, and I noticed that she has two different ratings for her flight speed (one for regular flight speed and one for space) and I have a few questions.

Why do her space flight and regular (max) flight speed have different ratings? Is there any scientific evidence/backing that ones flight speed in space would be greater than ones normal flight speed on earth? Or was this decided to avoid inconsistencies? Cause I did see that in one of the calcs on her Rel+ justification, it states that she utilized her max flight speed (kind of dubious but w/e), and Thanos outpaced her.
 
Nierre said:
Hi yall, Im doing some research on Captain Marvel's profile for my own profiles, and I noticed that she has two different ratings for her flight speed (one for regular flight speed and one for space) and I have a few questions.

Why do her space flight and regular (max) flight speed have different ratings? Is there any scientific evidence/backing that ones flight speed in space would be greater than ones normal flight speed on earth? Or was this decided to avoid inconsistencies? Cause I did see that in one of the calcs on her Rel+ justification, it states that she utilized her max flight speed (kind of dubious but w/e), and Thanos outpaced her.
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Because we usually separate spaceflight speed in order to have consistency for the character's actual speed
 
And then in the actual movie, Hulk gives him the same treatment Zeus gave him in the comics

Don't know of course but let's not get ahead of ourselves and make assumptions before actually seeing the movie
 
Speaking of Spider-Man, I wanted to bring up a question I had for a while. Do the Asgardians (excluding Thor, Odin, and Hela) have any notable LS feats? Because right now they upscale Spider-Man using these scans but the issue is that none of them refer to Spider-Man, they just say he’s far superior to humans.

There’s no reason to use the statement to argue, Loki is superior to humans mutated by their powers, outside of what he’s already shown. We already don’t take it literally, because then he’d be upscaling Hulk which is obviously false.

Even for characters with statements saying they’re stronger than humans, the wiki treats it differently. Like Skrulls have statements saying they’re 15% stronger than humans. Not sure if it’s a relic of old scaling or if there are other justifications I missed.
 
Legion350 said:
Speaking of Spider-Man, I wanted to bring up a question I had for a while. Do the Asgardians (excluding Thor, Odin, and Hela) have any notable LS feats? Because right now they upscale Spider-Man using these scans but the issue is that none of them refer to Spider-Man, they just say he’s far superior to humans.

There’s no reason to use the statement to argue, Loki is superior to humans mutated by their powers, outside of what he’s already shown. We already don’t take it literally, because then he’d be upscaling Hulk which is obviously false.

Even for characters with statements saying they’re stronger than humans, the wiki treats it differently. Like Skrulls have statements saying they’re 15% stronger than humans. Not sure if it’s a relic of old scaling or if there are other justifications I missed.
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That is a weird scaling justification. I think previously, Asgardians scaled above super soldiers based on Loki's fight with Captain America.
 
Dinobot1996 said:
That is a weird scaling justification. I think previously, Asgardians scaled above super soldiers based on Loki's fight with Captain America.
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He (and the Asgardians) definitely should upscale Cap’s LS considered how Loki overpowered him. I’m not against Asgardians being higher than Spider-Man, my problem is specifically in the justification.

Even in the guidebook scans they only show a scan of Loki catching cap’s punch. So it’s an odd assumption to take them saying Loki is stronger than humans as anything more than evidence of him being superhuman. Doesn’t help that Spidey has barely interacted with any Asgardians before or after the guidebook came out in 2018.
 
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