MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread

[darkphantom9805]

I think we should wait until the comic says how this works & apply that and not go with the 2 boxes theory. It's possible it's true, but it's better to wait until Marvel actually comes out with how this all works

Anyways, from a pure writing perspective, I don't think that merging the 2 multiverses is a good idea as you have to come up with so many excuses & bs as to why all of the massive differences in the cosmologies work. Also as a writer, I just think that simpler multiverses are objectively far better than some super complex and detailed multiverse. Your lore & cosmology should be simple enough for a passive viewer & non-mega fan to be able to understand without doing litteral hours of homework to understand it. If a general viewing/reading/whatever audience can't clearly understand your cosmology & lore simply by just passively watching & enjoying your work, you're bad at making stories. I get some people really like complex lore & cosmologies, and that's totally fine, everyone likes different things, but as a writer myself who has made a few of my own multiverse stories, making some super complex cosmology with 10,000 different rules & thousands of different pieces of lore and stuff is boring.

EEAAO Multiverse

Not really if they are 2 separate multiverses but share the same verse then that explains everything and clears up all differences because I don’t know if we will ever get an official explanation on this unless someone asked WoG because they will never feel the need to give one they will just keep doing crossovers over and over again showing they are connected

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Yeah it's obvious at least the creator of Kahhori considers the two universes connected, but I also kind of see dark's point. It's more likely that unless someone directly asked someone of authority in Marvel what's the stance of them being canon to each other, it's more likely they'll just keep making crossovers between the two within the comics, .

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Not really if they are 2 separate multiverses but share the same verse then that explains everything and clears up all differences because I don’t know if we will ever get an official explanation on this unless someone asked WoG because they will never feel the need to give one they will just keep doing crossovers over and over again showing they are connected

Well from a writing perspective that's just lazy. Just don't mix the 2 cosmologies in that case

But, lazy writing aside, the 2 multiverses being shared might be legit depending on what's said in the comic, so ig we should probably start discussions on how this might effect scaling in the verse

 

[darkphantom9805]

But, lazy writing aside, the 2 multiverses being shared might be legit depending on what's said in the comic, so ig we should probably start discussions on how this might effect scaling in the verse

I mean would this change anyone tier besides kevin? If they are 2 different multiverses but same verse

 

[ByAsura]

It's worth noting that you can have Megaverses in Marvel, which will overlap across realities of multiverses. This means two things can be in different multiverses, but still be as closely connected as parallel universes through what's essentially a super-multiverse.

 

[darkphantom9805]

There are a lot of changes to be made then or no

 

[ByAsura]

If you're referring to what I said, I don't think there's any non-superficial changes. Something like Eternity wouldn't need to be Low 1-A/1-A in the MCU if it's a different part of a Megaverse to 616.

 

[darkphantom9805]

If you're referring to what I said, I don't think there's any non-superficial changes. Something like Eternity wouldn't need to be Low 1-A/1-A in the MCU if it's a different part of a Megaverse to 616.

No I’m talking about everything in general not what you said also technically Kevin would be upgraded to1-a or what ever for being above marvel comics

 

[ByAsura]

I've never heard of K.E.V.I.N or She-Hulk. Neither of them exist. The People vs. Emil Blonsky has never existed and never will exist.

 

[darkphantom9805]

When do we get FTL MCU high tiers for reacting to the bifrost

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

When do we get FTL MCU high tiers for reacting to the bifrost

What is this from?

 

[darkphantom9805]

What is this from?

Story board art from L&T where Stormbreaker would shoot the birfrost at Thor its interesting that the writers thought he could react to it show’s intent for his speed or no

 

[Propellus]

These seem like aimdodging

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Story board art from L&T where Stormbreaker would shoot the birfrost at Thor its interesting that the writers thought he could react to it show’s intent for his speed or no

If it didn't happen in the movie, no. It's just storyboards that didn't make it into the film & shouldn't be considered since they are technically deleted scenes and aren't canon

 

[darkphantom9805]

If it didn't happen in the movie, no. It's just storyboards that didn't make it into the film & shouldn't be considered since they are technically deleted scenes and aren't canon

If they thought he could do it in the first place thor speed has to be that tier or they never would’ve come up with that scene as he wouldn’t be able to achieve it also per Loki art book and Miss minutes deleted content are pruned timelines meaning canon with variant scaling or no

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

If it's not canon it's not usable.

 

[darkphantom9805]

If it's not canon it's not usable.

per Loki art book and mis minutes they are canon but continuity errors which get pruned or no

 

[ByAsura]

Miss minutes deleted content are pruned timelines meaning canon with variant scaling or no

Can you post a scan of this?

 

[darkphantom9805]

Can you post a scan of this?

Concept art is labeled under the pruned timelines section in the book meaning concept art is canon to the overall MCU Multiverse Miss minutes calls this stuff Continuity errors which normally gets pruned and aren’t supposed to be the main canon of that timeline pretty sure another thing says they are continuations of their stories meaning things that could happen

 

[ByAsura]

That really doesn't seem like it codifies all deleted storyboards into useable canon. For now, I'd only stick to storyboards which are hinted at and shown to have occurred in some form.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

If it didn't happen in the movie, no. It's just storyboards that didn't make it into the film & shouldn't be considered since they are technically deleted scenes and aren't canon

Same as the Zeus scene where he shows up at the hospital and displays more power with Thunderbolt.



SERIOUSLY, WHY DID THEY CUT THAT SCENE AGAIN?!

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I've never heard of K.E.V.I.N or She-Hulk. Neither of them exist. The People vs. Emil Blonsky has never existed and never will exist.

K.E.V.I.N was actually good. The rest...to quote a lovely man who likes flowers "Go die in a ditch somewhere.".

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I know this isn't MCU stuff but since from what I know there's no thread dedicated to the show, I made a blog for Thor in the Twilight of the Gods series and I wanted to know what you think about it guys

Thor (Twilight of the Gods)

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Trailers are out, wanna see Bob doing some fixing

 

[Heoj]

that new trailer was sick af for some captain america feats, that sonic boom delay blast was sick as ****

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

This movie looks so ******* ugly. Also Taskmaster basically ******

 

[Lacku]

This movie looks so ******* ugly. Also Taskmaster basically ******

I actually think the cinematography and colour grading is looking pretty good

 

[Yokoahh5743]

I noticed several more the watchers. Is that a reference to another multiverse?

 

[Dinobot1996]

I noticed several more the watchers. Is that a reference to another multiverse?

It could also technically be this group of Watchers.

The presence of both Kahhori and a Frost Giant Loki makes me wonder if one of the episodes will end up being a prequel to the new Kahhori comic, where Kahhori references a previous encounter with Frost Giant King Loki:

 

[Yokoahh5743]

It could also technically be this group of Watchers.

The presence of both Kahhori and a Frost Giant Loki makes me wonder if one of the episodes will end up being a prequel to the new Kahhori comic, where Kahhori references a previous encounter with Frost Giant King Loki:

Does that mean they will connect comic universe to the mcu?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Does that mean they will connect comic universe to the mcu?

If they do there would be literally no way to deny it because it'd be a two-way canon

 

[Yokoahh5743]

If they do there would be literally no way to deny it because it'd be a two-way canon

Will there be big changes if it happens?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

It depends on how they're connected. If phantom is right and they're just two separate multiverses that occasionally travel to one another, it wouldn't affect anything. If they are revealed to have the same multiverse however, then there would be major changes to the MCU side of things.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

This movie looks so ******* ugly. Also Taskmaster basically ******

Okay, am I the only one who has zero expectation for this movie? Like, technically it doesn't look bad, the actions scenes seem fun and the actors are good but but I have no interest whatsoever in this.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Oh yeah, and this dropped out



Trailer there is much more exciting than Thunderbolts and much better looking. It almost makes me interested in this. Also, props to MCCU writers, for remembering there's a fossilized, unborn cosmic god casually standing in the middle of the ocean

 

[Dinobot1996]

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Dormammu showing up again
Storm Goddess of Thunder

 

[Yokoahh5743]

Dormammu showing up again
Storm Goddess of Thunder

If he was called eleven-dimensional being, will he anything change?

 

[ByArrow]

If he was called eleven-dimensional being, will he anything change?

Nothing will change.

 

[Yokoahh5743]

Nothing will change.

Is there a reason?