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We have no idea how exactly she killed a Strange for that to work, so I'd say no on that partI’d say Unknown but her killing a strange is interesting
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We have no idea how exactly she killed a Strange for that to work, so I'd say no on that partI’d say Unknown but her killing a strange is interesting
That’s why I say interestingWe have no idea how exactly she killed a Strange for that to work, so I'd say no on that part
She did refer to that variant of Strange as an "Amateur Magician", said that she "wore his skin around for four days", and she knows how to properly use a Sling Ring when compared to Ned.We have no idea how exactly she killed a Strange for that to work, so I'd say no on that part
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Deadpool was caught by surprise and he didn't attempt to fight back. Cameos are shocking, I know.Nah iirc she disarmed DP
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I’d say Unknown but her killing a strange is interesting
Or she's just that powerfulThis probably means that variant of Strange was still in training for him to be called an amateur by Cassandra
She just has to have higher TK LS relative to most Stranges' LS in order to incapacitate them, and most Stranges' are physical power housesOr she's just that powerful
Wasn't that always the case with Wanda that her powers get more powerful depending on her mental state? Think of the final battle in AoU, where initially she was having trouble with Ultron Sentries due to doubting and blaming herself, then after Clint gave her a pep talk, she was easily dealing with them, then later Ultron.Snip
That was a discussion that most if not everyone overlooked, IIRC on the basis that "We should only Index Wanda's Magic AP at its most powerful in her profile so as not to make her profile clogged up", and when questioned on "Wouldn't this confuse other forum users who aren't familiar with the intricacies of Wanda's profile", the opposition replied "We would just explain why so and so doesn't scale in the threads"With how much her emotions seem to effect her powers, I feel like an argument could be made that Wanda's AP could be treated similarly to how we currently treat Captain Marvel's AP.
Pretty odd justification ngl at the very least if that was agreed on why wouldn't they put a note on Wanda's profile explaining this?That was a discussion that most if not everyone overlooked, IIRC on the basis that "We should only Index Wanda's Magic AP at its most powerful in her profile so as not to make her profile clogged up", and when questioned on "Wouldn't this confuse other forum users who aren't familiar with the intricacies of Wanda's profile", the opposition replied "We would just explain why so and so doesn't scale in the threads"
IIRC back then they probably didn't know how to or didn't bother, same as how back then we didn't have references nor planned to put references for the profiles. IIRC that's how far back the discussions regarding Wanda's Magic AP ratings werePretty odd justification ngl at the very least if that was agreed on why wouldn't they put a note on Wanda's profile explaining this?
Yeah tbf profiles have got a lot better. Still Wanda's page should get reworked sometime.IIRC back then they probably didn't know how to or didn't bother, same as how back then we didn't have references nor planned to put references for the profiles. IIRC that's how far back the discussions regarding Wanda's Magic AP ratings were
that’s not even how it works Stormbreaker isn’t an avenger it’s a weapon she has no scaling to the weapon nobody does as of right nowOn the topic of Wanda, isn’t she stated to be the strongest Avenger during IW and EG or did I just make that up in my head? If that is a thing then should her magic scale to Stormbreaker?
I mean Stormbreaker is a weapon Thor always has on him. How can Wanda be the strongest Avenger when her magic is thousands of times weaker than Thor’s primary, always accessible weapon? Not to mention Thor already has way better physicals than her as well, so he clears her in every stat.that’s not even how it works Stormbreaker isn’t an avenger it’s a weapon she has no scaling to the weapon nobody does as of right now
And? Thor doesn’t scale to Stormbreaker lol she can’t be the strongest avenger because she isn’t that was only during endgame and pre L&T she has no scaling to prime Thor she has no scaling to the ultimate weapon the greatest weapon ever madeI mean Stormbreaker is a weapon Thor always has on him. How can Wanda be the strongest Avenger when her magic is thousands of times weaker than Thor’s primary, always accessible weapon? Not to mention Thor already has way better physicals than her as well, so he clears her in every stat.
Nope, that got changed awhile agoIf the Watcher exists outside time and space, shouldn't this be Immeasurable Speed?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/SpeedTimeless Voids
Timeless Voids, i.e. areas within a setting that lack time or exist outside of the flow of time, cannot be used to grant Infinite speed. One might be tempted to apply Speed = Distance/Time and say that time equals 0 in this situation, thus moving through this type of void should result in Infinite speed. However, in a Timeless Void, time does not exist, making Time = Not Applicable.
So in short, Time = Nonexistent or Not Applicable and Distance/Time = Undefined and cannot be determined under these conditions.
I’m talking about Endgame Wanda here. I’m not saying she should be 5-A (Thor wasn’t even 5-A when MoM cane out), just that she could arguably be 5-C. Also I never said Thor scales to Stormbreaker???And? Thor doesn’t scale to Stormbreaker lol she can’t be the strongest avenger because she isn’t that was only during endgame and pre L&T she has no scaling to prime Thor she has no scaling to the ultimate weapon the greatest weapon ever made
I'd just scale him below IW Tony and call it a day since he has weird feats in the movie even before getting the Iron Spider, but I ignore that fight with him and Cull for obvious reasons.Btw to bring back the Iron Spider discussion from a couple months back, hypothetically where would he scale if the Doc Ock fight was ignored? The reason I ask is because iirc the suit used against Doc Ock is a different suit made by Peter instead of Tony, so there’s potentially a genuine reason to ignore the Doc Ock fight for the original Iron Spider’s scaling.
First off I think he would definitely be Relativistic speed, since the only fight he’s in that doesn’t have good reasons to ignore is ironically the Thanos fight. For AP there’s the moment where he kicks Thanos a bunch of times, which imo shouldn’t actually scale the Iron Spider to Thanos but could maybe be used to scale him to Hulk or something? There’s also the statements about the Iron Spider being particularly advanced or powerful, but I don’t remember what those statements actually are.
Because it's not consistent, considering how he still gets tagged by other street levelers?Also, I still don't understand why Peter and those who scale to him aren't rated as relativistic. He keeps the box away from Strange, Goblin snatches the box from Strange, and the Lizard tagged Strange and was described by him to be a slippery opponent
Because it's not consistent, considering how he still gets tagged by other street levelers?
Not consistent
Plus I don't think street tier should even scale to the more developed Spider-Man considering how much he ends up being nimble around people way above his power classliterally just listed examples of him and his cast scaling to a relativistic+ character
Everyone in their mom gets tagged by street tiers my guy nothing in the mcu is consistent especially speed logically 90% of the people in the mcu shouldn’t be that fast narratively but they are because the plot of this guy scales to this who scales that who scales this creating massive scaling chainsBecause it's not consistent, considering how he still gets tagged by other street levelers?
Not an excuse for circular scaling.Everyone in their mom gets tagged by street tiers my guy nothing in the mcu is consistent especially speed logically 90% of the people in the mcu shouldn’t be that fast narratively but they are because the plot of this guy scales to this who scales that who scales this creating massive scaling chains
Didn’t understand the point it means you have no argument you have no debunk you can’t go muh he gets tagged those are just feats for the people who tagged him cause even the fastest characters in mcu still get tagged by street tiers that’s just how it works meaning if it’s consistent for the people tagging him they scaleNot an excuse for circular scaling.
Is this not just an unused concept though since we never see that alluded to or shown in the actual movie.This is the statement from the No Way Home artbook that confirms the Iron Spider suit in that movie is supposed to be a new one:
wtf is this kamen rider beltThis is the statement from the No Way Home artbook that confirms the Iron Spider suit in that movie is supposed to be a new one: