- 8,051
- 8,528
Good enough reasoning to me
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
- Thread starter Valiant_Abyss
- Start date
- 3,926
- 2,920
- 6,886
- 8,031
Does she have any scaling to them?
- 8,051
- 8,528
I meant scaling above them
- 6,886
- 8,031
But does she have any reason to scale above them? i understand what you mean but idk if She-Hulk being stronger than the street tiers with no evidence would be accepted
- 4,433
- 5,358
Maybe HDE?
- 8,997
- 9,713
Makes sense to me
- 8,997
- 9,713
- 3,815
- 7,625
- 4,433
- 5,358
- 8,997
- 9,713
The Thor script mentions Odin having devastated whole worlds in the exact same dialogue as the Thor junior novel. The latter has further context of Frigga knowing that Odin himself is powerful enough to do so
- 9,763
- 12,666
- 8,997
- 9,713
Another member of the Warriors Three profiled
vsbattles.fandom.com
Also, the Black Order team page
vsbattles.fandom.com
Hogun (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Whoever you were, whatever you've done, surrender now or we will show you no mercy.Hogun to Hela Hogun was a highly respected Vanir warrior, an ally as well as friend of Thor, and a member of the Warriors Three, known for his stern demeanour. Alongside all his fellow warriors, Hogun took part in...
vsbattles.fandom.com
Black Order (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
The Black Order, also known as the Children of Thanos, was an elite team comprised of powerful individuals who used their abilities to serve their adoptive father Thanos. As his vicious generals, they assisted him in his mission to find and harness the power of the Infinity Stones. Tier: 9-B to...
vsbattles.fandom.com
- 3,478
- 5,475
Thoughts?
- 8,766
- 13,427
I...honestly have no idea how that can be handled without being a complete mess anyway but my morbid curiosity is just sitting there looking like Palpatine laughing and saying "Dew it"
- 8,997
- 9,713
- 1,463
- 2,846
The scan appears to be from MARVEL's Avengers: Infinity War: The Cosmic Quest Volume Two
- 8,997
- 9,713
Welp. never mind then. I dunno how usable it is since Erik Selvig and Jane didn't survive the Snap
- 10,196
- 14,963
Wouldn't the Aether still qualify for Perception Manipulation since it was capable of showing Jane visions of what would happen if she stayed on Asgard (A vision of an occupied Asgard by Malekith's forces), then later on it showed her the outcome of what would happen if Malekith succeeded in his plan (A vision of Earth, the Solar System, and the World Tree being consumed by the Aether)
- 8,997
- 9,713
That's currently attributed to Malekith, but looking at the scene, it would make more sense for it to be the Aether
- 8,766
- 13,427
Yeah, it feels more like it's the Aether sort of granting her visions of what's coming
- 8,997
- 9,713
Eitri's page is ready
vsbattles.fandom.com
Eitri (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Eitri is the King of the Dwarves, an ancient race of skilled forgers and blacksmiths who hail from Nidavellir. He was forced by Thanos to forge the Infinity Gauntlet. He later worked with Thor, Rocket and Groot to forge Stormbreaker in order to kill Thanos. Tier: Unknown, possibly at most 7-A...
vsbattles.fandom.com
- 8,997
- 9,713
I'm guessing we just assumed that speed would vary alongside AP and durability
- 4,433
- 5,358
I mean, Mjölnir and Stormbreaker have variable AP because they share Thor's power, but not his speed
- 8,997
- 9,713
I guess that's a fair argument to just make their speed one rating
Though if someone evaluates KLOL's new ends, it won't make much of a difference
- 1,463
- 2,846
Some concept art from the new Multiverse of Madness artbook has been circulating:
Valiant_Abyss
He/Him- 4,967
- 6,030
- Thread starter
- #3,070
We should've gotten that Wanda look.
- 6,886
- 8,031
I like the 1st and 3rd designs for Reed
- 8,766
- 13,427
Bruh that Scarlet Witch design is so awesome
- 1,463
- 2,846
Some more Multiverse of Madness artbook stuff:
- 4,433
- 5,358
That page states that Scarlet Witch is the most powerful being in the universeSome more Multiverse of Madness artbook stuff:
Lacku
He/Him- 3,250
- 4,508
Would that be enough for an upgrade or do we need more evidence?
- 4,433
- 5,358
Idk, but being the most powerful in the universe would put her above the strongest gods (5-A/4-C), Celestials (3-C), Arishem (3-A), and possibly Eternity (Low 2-C). Perhaps the statement about her being able to annihilate the cosmos and her feat of erasing the Darkhold in every universes which was considered as hax could be used as support,
Lacku
He/Him- 3,250
- 4,508
I mean what strong counter arguments or anti-feats are there that could be used to stop her getting upgraded
- 1,463
- 2,846
A preview from the upcoming MCU timeline book seems to confirm that Ego is considered an actual Celestial despite being formed differently.
Last edited:
Lacku
He/Him- 3,250
- 4,508
Even back before we got to see actual Celestials in the MCU I always thought Ego being labelled as one was weird, I’d be really surprised if we get to see any other outlier Celestials like him in future phases tbhA preview from the upcoming MCU timeline book seems to confirm that Ego is considered an actual Celestial despite being formed differently.
- 8,766
- 13,427
Lack of actual feats (off-screen or on-screen) to support that (probably the most egregious as such an upgrade generally requires blatant and impossible-to-deny displays of power), saying that's simply hyperbole to hype her character and power (like with Carol repeatedly called the strongest heroine to hype her up before Endgame or with Thanos being called the strongest being in the universe even without a Stone by Korath when Celestials and beings like Surtur exist), saying the characters calling her that don't know about higher beings like Celestials or only have a limited understanding of what they can do and are, saying this is just the level to which she can potentially grow one day but hasn't reached yet so there's no point at putting her at a hypothetical level she might never get to since she could disappear or die before, etc
All of these are more or less strong enough to deny such an upgrade, with the lack of on-screen feats on that level being the strongest
