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Good enough reasoning to me
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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Does she have any scaling to them?
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I meant scaling above them
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But does she have any reason to scale above them? i understand what you mean but idk if She-Hulk being stronger than the street tiers with no evidence would be accepted
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Maybe HDE?
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Makes sense to me
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The Thor script mentions Odin having devastated whole worlds in the exact same dialogue as the Thor junior novel. The latter has further context of Frigga knowing that Odin himself is powerful enough to do so
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Another member of the Warriors Three profiled
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Also, the Black Order team page
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Hogun (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Hogun was a highly respected Vanir warrior, an ally as well as friend of Thor, and a member of the Warriors Three, known for his stern demeanour. Alongside all his fellow warriors, Hogun took part in a poorly considered strike against all the Frost Giants, which soon resulted in Odin punishing...
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Black Order (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
The Black Order, also known as the Children of Thanos, was an elite team comprised of powerful individuals who used their abilities to serve their adoptive father Thanos. As his vicious generals, they assisted him in his mission to find and harness the power of the Infinity Stones. Tier: 9-B to...
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Thoughts?
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I...honestly have no idea how that can be handled without being a complete mess anyway but my morbid curiosity is just sitting there looking like Palpatine laughing and saying "Dew it"
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The scan appears to be from MARVEL's Avengers: Infinity War: The Cosmic Quest Volume Two
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Welp. never mind then. I dunno how usable it is since Erik Selvig and Jane didn't survive the Snap
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Wouldn't the Aether still qualify for Perception Manipulation since it was capable of showing Jane visions of what would happen if she stayed on Asgard (A vision of an occupied Asgard by Malekith's forces), then later on it showed her the outcome of what would happen if Malekith succeeded in his plan (A vision of Earth, the Solar System, and the World Tree being consumed by the Aether)
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That's currently attributed to Malekith, but looking at the scene, it would make more sense for it to be the Aether
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Yeah, it feels more like it's the Aether sort of granting her visions of what's coming
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Eitri's page is ready
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Eitri (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Three hundred Dwarves lived on this ring. I thought if I did what he asked, they'd be safe. I made what he wanted. A device capable of harnessing the power of the Stones. Then he killed everyone anyway. All except me. "Your life is yours," he said. "But your hands... your hands are mine...
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I'm guessing we just assumed that speed would vary alongside AP and durability
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I mean, Mjölnir and Stormbreaker have variable AP because they share Thor's power, but not his speed
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I guess that's a fair argument to just make their speed one rating
Though if someone evaluates KLOL's new ends, it won't make much of a difference
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Some concept art from the new Multiverse of Madness artbook has been circulating:
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We should've gotten that Wanda look.
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I like the 1st and 3rd designs for Reed
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Bruh that Scarlet Witch design is so awesome
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Some more Multiverse of Madness artbook stuff:
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That page states that Scarlet Witch is the most powerful being in the universeSome more Multiverse of Madness artbook stuff:
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Would that be enough for an upgrade or do we need more evidence?
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Idk, but being the most powerful in the universe would put her above the strongest gods (5-A/4-C), Celestials (3-C), Arishem (3-A), and possibly Eternity (Low 2-C). Perhaps the statement about her being able to annihilate the cosmos and her feat of erasing the Darkhold in every universes which was considered as hax could be used as support,
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I mean what strong counter arguments or anti-feats are there that could be used to stop her getting upgraded
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A preview from the upcoming MCU timeline book seems to confirm that Ego is considered an actual Celestial despite being formed differently.
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Even back before we got to see actual Celestials in the MCU I always thought Ego being labelled as one was weird, I’d be really surprised if we get to see any other outlier Celestials like him in future phases tbhA preview from the upcoming MCU timeline book seems to confirm that Ego is considered an actual Celestial despite being formed differently.
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Lack of actual feats (off-screen or on-screen) to support that (probably the most egregious as such an upgrade generally requires blatant and impossible-to-deny displays of power), saying that's simply hyperbole to hype her character and power (like with Carol repeatedly called the strongest heroine to hype her up before Endgame or with Thanos being called the strongest being in the universe even without a Stone by Korath when Celestials and beings like Surtur exist), saying the characters calling her that don't know about higher beings like Celestials or only have a limited understanding of what they can do and are, saying this is just the level to which she can potentially grow one day but hasn't reached yet so there's no point at putting her at a hypothetical level she might never get to since she could disappear or die before, etc
All of these are more or less strong enough to deny such an upgrade, with the lack of on-screen feats on that level being the strongest
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