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regardless this scene is wacky and has to be an outlier for either Thor cap or Thanos
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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Agreed, but like, Russoforce Cap can traverse the multiverse and wields the Infinity Stones. HE. IS. AMERICA'S. ASS.
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Fraud watch time
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Surviving an attack doesn't mean he has Thor's stats
Thor remained conscious from multiple punches from 2014 Thanos. Cap was instantly knocked out by 2014 Thanos' punch, and the only reason he isn't dead and a bloody mess on the ground is because Endgame is a PG-13 movie, not The Boys
All of this is headcanon without actual proof
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Cope, Cap just has incredible drip. Thanos should've gone for the chin.
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Lol cope harder you can’t use a PG-13 movie as an excuse super soldier stats cannot survive a hit from thanos who isn’t holding back which literally proves he has Thor stats
Also you do realize fat Thor was literally ko in 1 hit to right so your example of him taking multiple hits doesn’t matter as in the exact same scene he got ko in after he went awakened
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The timeline book clarifies that the branching of Infinity Ultron's universe started in 2015, if I remember correctly one of the reasons why this Captain Marvel calc couldn't be used before was because it was unknown when said branching began
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Regarding the Cap debacle.
Cap is still a human, albeit enhanced, just boosted to have Thor's physicals just like Jane.
Thor is a full on Asgardian, so his physiology might give him more endurance and stamina than both Cap and Jane, even when they're boosted by Thor's powers which is why he can take more punishment than the both of them.
Cap is still a human, albeit enhanced, just boosted to have Thor's physicals just like Jane.
Thor is a full on Asgardian, so his physiology might give him more endurance and stamina than both Cap and Jane, even when they're boosted by Thor's powers which is why he can take more punishment than the both of them.
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Anyone else ever wonder why Ikaris' (outlier) cloud feat uses some gap in the clouds above what is not the Indian Ocean, where the final battle took place. Cloud patterns are also just not the same between shots. There also two other random gaps at the bottom, so it's not like they didn't/couldn't firm on their own.
Like, he gets incinerated by the sun. He's not some cold person. Am I wrong, or shouldn''t his being as warm as any other stuck make his thermal absorption rate or whatever the same as a Holman, making him building level. Him being torn apart could be a different thing, but it was a heat thing. He was burnt beyond a crisp.
The timeline book puts Ikaris' death as being at the same time as the general final battle, and not like afterwards around the time Arishem pops up. Like, why just use him exiting Earth?
Like, he gets incinerated by the sun. He's not some cold person. Am I wrong, or shouldn''t his being as warm as any other stuck make his thermal absorption rate or whatever the same as a Holman, making him building level. Him being torn apart could be a different thing, but it was a heat thing. He was burnt beyond a crisp.
The timeline book puts Ikaris' death as being at the same time as the general final battle, and not like afterwards around the time Arishem pops up. Like, why just use him exiting Earth?
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Ancient one said, right now you are in the mirror dimension, always existing but not being seen. Events here have no effect on the real world outside. But Wanda can attack from within the mirror dimension. What ability is she supposed to get?
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Because it's a circular hole, like what Ikaris made when he flew through the clouds, and there are no other ocular holes in that image as far as I can tell
Ikaris just doesn't have that good heat/fire resistance. The Eternals also fought against the Frost Giants
It's Portal Creation on Wanda's profile
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thank you
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There are two South of South America and one to the North, with none of the cloud formations matching the one we see Ikaris exit from. None of these are where the final battle took place, which was in the Indian Ocean.
I'm not sure what the relevance of this is? Jotuns are naturally a lot colder than humans, and Eternals appear to be as hot as a human. Heat is just fast vibrating molecules, or energy. They're not like Viltrumites, whose Smart Atoms are explicitely vulnerable to high temperatures.
Anyhow, it was only Gilgamesh who fought alongside Asgard against the Jotuns.
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Ikaris flew in a straight line outside of Earth either way, and when the camera was looking at Earth in the same direction as him, we see a distinct hole in the clouds
Because Jotunns are way higher than Building level
No.
Ikaris and the other Eternals still scales to him
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A hole that does not line up with the one we just saw being formed, in the wrong part of the world.
The timeline book says it was Gilgamesh. So, retcon or Gilgamesh was being generous.
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So why don't you make a recalc yourself if you're so adamant?
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Or the timeline book is being inconsistent and contradicting the movies and we shouldn't rely on it anymore
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The book is just a big generalization of events. It just gives the basics of what happened not the exact details.
On another note, Enkidu claims to have known a young Thor, so possibly another point to add that Eternals and Asgardians are somewhat familiar with one another.
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You mean Kingo? Because I do remember him claiming such in the movie
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Oh yeah, got them backwards
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The sun even lines with Ikaris coming out of the Indian Ocean. There are many holes, but Ikaris only came out of one. Then again, don- I'm not going to finish that.
Or the timeline book is being an inconsistent shit again
True, but it's not like the others couldn't have been helping out the hoomans. Though, them helping out in general contradicts their modus operandi until the group splits up in 1521.
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Gilgamesh specifically talks about how the Eternals helped out Odin to defeat Laufey's army
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Frost Giants are being a threat to humans though? Same way how Deviants were being a threat to humans.
They're not meant to help develop mankind or interfere with human against human conflicts, but extraterrestrial attacks against earth should be fair game right?
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So, retconn.
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But what about the Chitauri? That was broadcasted all over the world. Surely Makkari or Ikaris would run over to help out.
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No. Unless a future movie explicitly states it was just Gilgamesh, the primary canon (aka the 2021 Eternals movie) takes precedence
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Does it even matter where in the part of the world the cloud feat happened? Ikaris flew away and caused a hole to appear in a cloud formation, it's just that. He just did it
We don't apply this same logic of "the cloud formation is not accurate to how it is in other parts of the world" to other verses, so why is here any different?
We don't apply this same logic of "the cloud formation is not accurate to how it is in other parts of the world" to other verses, so why is here any different?
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Fair
It matters when calculating the feat. The initial calc, placing it at around 42 gigatons, doesn't line up physically with where the current calc, at 6 teratons, is at.
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They fought the Jotuns, which places them at Asgardian level, but that's better than what they did in the film outside of the cloud feat. Gilgamesh cracked some ice, I think.
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Yeah, in the wrong area, where other holes are visible.
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Makkari and Ikaris have shown no inclination to actively help humans without orders from Ajax.
The only Eternal that ever wanted to interfere directly was Druig.
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non-physical interaction, can attack living and souls, can it be attacked without regard to durability?
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I'm pretty sure it just means she can attack and interact with souls that aren't inside a physical body
