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Super soldiers would die immediately from a non holding back punch by thanos lol he wouldn’t just be ko

Surviving literally proves it it cause if he had his normals stats he’d be splattered
my guy cap proves he still had Thor stats when he survived a non holding back punch to the face by thanos if he was back to regular super soldier he would’ve been splattered
Surviving an attack doesn't mean he has Thor's stats

Thor remained conscious from multiple punches from 2014 Thanos. Cap was instantly knocked out by 2014 Thanos' punch, and the only reason he isn't dead and a bloody mess on the ground is because Endgame is a PG-13 movie, not The Boys
I don't see why he didn't make the spiffy new suit something durable. Not vibranium, but Badassium durable.
All of this is headcanon without actual proof
 
Surviving an attack doesn't mean he has Thor's stats

Thor remained conscious from multiple punches from 2014 Thanos. Cap was instantly knocked out by 2014 Thanos' punch, and the only reason he isn't dead and a bloody mess on the ground is because Endgame is a PG-13 movie, not The Boys

All of this is headcanon without actual proof
Cope, Cap just has incredible drip. Thanos should've gone for the chin.
 
Surviving an attack doesn't mean he has Thor's stats

Thor remained conscious from multiple punches from 2014 Thanos. Cap was instantly knocked out by 2014 Thanos' punch, and the only reason he isn't dead and a bloody mess on the ground is because Endgame is a PG-13 movie, not The Boys

All of this is headcanon without actual proof
Lol cope harder you can’t use a PG-13 movie as an excuse super soldier stats cannot survive a hit from thanos who isn’t holding back which literally proves he has Thor stats

Also you do realize fat Thor was literally ko in 1 hit to right so your example of him taking multiple hits doesn’t matter as in the exact same scene he got ko in after he went awakened
 
Anyone else ever wonder why Ikaris' (outlier) cloud feat uses some gap in the clouds above what is not the Indian Ocean, where the final battle took place. Cloud patterns are also just not the same between shots. There also two other random gaps at the bottom, so it's not like they didn't/couldn't firm on their own.

Like, he gets incinerated by the sun. He's not some cold person. Am I wrong, or shouldn''t his being as warm as any other stuck make his thermal absorption rate or whatever the same as a Holman, making him building level. Him being torn apart could be a different thing, but it was a heat thing. He was burnt beyond a crisp.

The timeline book puts Ikaris' death as being at the same time as the general final battle, and not like afterwards around the time Arishem pops up. Like, why just use him exiting Earth?
 
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Ancient one said, right now you are in the mirror dimension, always existing but not being seen. Events here have no effect on the real world outside. But Wanda can attack from within the mirror dimension. What ability is she supposed to get?
 
Anyone else ever wonder why Ikaris' (outlier) cloud feat uses some gap in the clouds
Because it's a circular hole, like what Ikaris made when he flew through the clouds, and there are no other ocular holes in that image as far as I can tell
Like, he gets incinerated by the sun. He's not some cold person. Am I wrong, or shouldn''t his being as warm as any other stuck make his thermal absorption rate or whatever the same as a Holman, making him building level. Him being torn apart could be a different thing, but it was a heat thing. He was burnt beyond a crisp.
Ikaris just doesn't have that good heat/fire resistance. The Eternals also fought against the Frost Giants


Ancient one said, right now you are in the mirror dimension, always existing but not being seen. Events here have no effect on the real world outside. But Wanda can attack from within the mirror dimension. What ability is she supposed to get?

It's Portal Creation on Wanda's profile
Portal Creation (Could attack sorcerers through reflections and escape the Mirror Dimension[5])
 
Because it's a circular hole, like what Ikaris made when he flew through the clouds, and there are no other ocular holes in that image as far as I can tell

Ikaris just doesn't have that good heat/fire resistance. The Eternals also fought against the Frost Giants

It's Portal Creation on Wanda's profile
There are two South of South America and one to the North, with none of the cloud formations matching the one we see Ikaris exit from. None of these are where the final battle took place, which was in the Indian Ocean.

I'm not sure what the relevance of this is? Jotuns are naturally a lot colder than humans, and Eternals appear to be as hot as a human. Heat is just fast vibrating molecules, or energy. They're not like Viltrumites, whose Smart Atoms are explicitely vulnerable to high temperatures.

Anyhow, it was only Gilgamesh who fought alongside Asgard against the Jotuns.
 
There are two South of South America and one to the North, with none of the cloud formations matching the one we see Ikaris exit from. None of these are where the final battle took place, which was in the Indian Ocean.
Ikaris flew in a straight line outside of Earth either way, and when the camera was looking at Earth in the same direction as him, we see a distinct hole in the clouds
I'm not sure what the relevance of this is? Jotuns are naturally a lot colder than humans, and Eternals appear to be as hot as a human. Heat is just fast vibrating molecules, or energy. They're not like Viltrumites, whose Smart Atoms are explicitely vulnerable to high temperatures.
Because Jotunns are way higher than Building level
making him building level
Anyhow, it was only Gilgamesh who fought alongside Asgard against the Jotuns.
No.
Gilagmesh: Yours is a secret brew Odin taught me as a thank you after we helped defeat Laufey's army in Tønsberg.
Ikaris and the other Eternals still scales to him
 
Ikaris flew in a straight line outside of Earth either way, and when the camera was looking at Earth in the same direction as him, we see a distinct hole in the clouds

Because Jotunns are way higher than Building level



No.

Ikaris and the other Eternals still scales to him
A hole that does not line up with the one we just saw being formed, in the wrong part of the world.

The timeline book says it was Gilgamesh. So, retcon or Gilgamesh was being generous.
 
A hole that does not line up with the one we just saw being formed, in the wrong part of the world.
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The timeline book says it was Gilgamesh. So, retcon or Gilgamesh was being generous.
Or the timeline book is being inconsistent and contradicting the movies and we shouldn't rely on it anymore
 
Or the timeline book is being inconsistent and contradicting the movies and we shouldn't rely on it anymore

The book is just a big generalization of events. It just gives the basics of what happened not the exact details.

On another note, Enkidu claims to have known a young Thor, so possibly another point to add that Eternals and Asgardians are somewhat familiar with one another.
 
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Or the timeline book is being an inconsistent shit again
The sun even lines with Ikaris coming out of the Indian Ocean. There are many holes, but Ikaris only came out of one. Then again, don- I'm not going to finish that.

True, but it's not like the others couldn't have been helping out the hoomans. Though, them helping out in general contradicts their modus operandi until the group splits up in 1521.
 
True, but it's not like the others couldn't have been helping out the hoomans. Though, them helping out in general contradicts their modus operandi until the group splits up in 1521.
Gilgamesh specifically talks about how the Eternals helped out Odin to defeat Laufey's army
 
Though, them helping out in general contradicts their modus operandi

Frost Giants are being a threat to humans though? Same way how Deviants were being a threat to humans.

They're not meant to help develop mankind or interfere with human against human conflicts, but extraterrestrial attacks against earth should be fair game right?
 
Frost Giants are being a threat to humans though? Same way how Deviants were being a threat to humans.

They're not meant to help develop mankind or interfere with human against human conflicts, but extraterrestrial attacks against earth should be fair game right?
But what about the Chitauri? That was broadcasted all over the world. Surely Makkari or Ikaris would run over to help out.
 
Does it even matter where in the part of the world the cloud feat happened? Ikaris flew away and caused a hole to appear in a cloud formation, it's just that. He just did it
We don't apply this same logic of "the cloud formation is not accurate to how it is in other parts of the world" to other verses, so why is here any different?
 
Also the whole "he died in the sun tho" is just a heat-res feat. Fiction doesn't treat surviving in the sun as a full-on durability feat rather a heat resistance one. Besides I'm pretty sure the Eternals have better feats either way
 
No. Unless a future movie explicitly states it was just Gilgamesh, the primary canon (aka the 2021 Eternals movie) takes precedence
Fair
Does it even matter where in the part of the world the cloud feat happened? Ikaris flew away and caused a hole to appear in a cloud formation, it's just that. He just did it
We don't apply this same logic of "the cloud formation is not accurate to how it is in other parts of the world" to other verses, so why is here any different?
It matters when calculating the feat. The initial calc, placing it at around 42 gigatons, doesn't line up physically with where the current calc, at 6 teratons, is at.
 
It matters when calculating the feat. The initial calc, placing it at around 42 gigatons, doesn't line up physically with where the current calc, at 6 teratons, is at.
The island level calc that got remade cause we have better shots to calculate the feat.
1. The first calc had a big glaring issue: It used the panel height of the white background instead of using the panel height of the main movie frame itself.

2. I chose the full-Earth shot scene because the hole is glaringly visible there and so is the Earth, thus giving us more reliable metrics to use. That and the hole doesn't really expand any further once it gets cut out of the screen where Ikaris flies before briefly stopping to look at the Earth, before resuming his suicide flight into the Sun. The hole is also no longer at an angle unlike the curvature shot so there's that too. The hole is too perfectly circular to be naturally formed in any way, shape or form.
 
Also the whole "he died in the sun tho" is just a heat-res feat. Fiction doesn't treat surviving in the sun as a full-on durability feat rather a heat resistance one. Besides I'm pretty sure the Eternals have better feats either way
They fought the Jotuns, which places them at Asgardian level, but that's better than what they did in the film outside of the cloud feat. Gilgamesh cracked some ice, I think.
 
Two near the tip of South America, and kind of not really one to the North, around Central America. Closer to the where Ikaris would've come from.
 
No not really
The hole that Ikaris made was done by himself. He flied away and a perfect sized hole appeared on the clouds and started to expand while he was going to space
It's clear that it was him doing it
 
But what about the Chitauri? That was broadcasted all over the world. Surely Makkari or Ikaris would run over to help out.

Makkari and Ikaris have shown no inclination to actively help humans without orders from Ajax.

The only Eternal that ever wanted to interfere directly was Druig.
 
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