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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Well yeah, of course.
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I already really like MCU Kamala but I don't think she'd work for me as much if it wasn't for Iman's performance.
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Iman is definitely the reason why this character works. The series definitely wasn't for me, too Disney Channel teenage movie-like but her performance was really good and brought a lot of energy and life to the character. Without that, Kamala would just be super bland. I really don't have a lot of expectations for The Marvels (not even in terms of good feats and that is the best I expect from that movie) so I hope at least Kamala will be as good as she is in the series
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bro how come carol gets all the good visuals why can’t Thor get some of that action it’s like Thor visuals gets worse with every movie
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There's only one thing to say about it: bruh
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Sersi (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Sersi is a member of the community of genetically engineered Eternals who came to Earth. She was created alongside the other Eternals by the Celestials, and sent by Arishem the Judge to Earth in 5000 BC to protect the humans from the Deviants. While on her mission, she grew a close relationship...
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Phastos (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Phastos is the inventor of the community of genetically engineered Eternals. Created by the Celestials in the World Forge, Phastos was sent to Earth in 5,000 BC to progress the planet's societal development, and protect it from the Deviants. Phastos guided and progressed many technological...
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Stature (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Cassandra Eleanor "Cassie" Lang is the daughter of Scott Lang and Maggie Lang. Fascinated by the Quantum Realm, Lang invented the Quantum Satellite, which resulted in her, her father and the van Dyne family being shrunken deep into the Realm, being trapped in Axia. Wishing to aid the Freedom...
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Crisis at Marvel: Jonathan Majors Back-Up Plans, ‘The Marvels’ Reshoots, Reviving Original Avengers and More Issues Revealed
Marvel has enjoyed a nearly uninterrupted string of hits ever since it started independently producing its movies with 2008’s “Iron Man.”
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TLDR: They’re lost. They’re considering moving away from Kang’s importance, they’re swapping movie deadlines suddenly, movies are being fatally restarted, delayed, and recast.
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Moving away from Kang after all the set-up in Loki and Quantumania just seems stupid
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Literally just recast. People like Kang again after Season 2 of Loki
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I can handle Jonathan Majors being recast. As long as they don't jump the gun and replace him before he's deemed innocent or sth, and the next actor's performance isn't a complete shitshow and actually a good substitute, I'll only be minorly upset at worst. Mark Ruffalo and Don Cheadle are right there
But moving away from the a character whose name is literally in the title of an Avengers movie just seems downright stupid
I expect Iman Vellani to carry the movie
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According to the IW Official Movie Special, Eson was apparently corrupted by the Power Stone. The book also has other statements like the Nine Realms being realities/dimensions and the Infinity Gauntlet granting infinite power over reality
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"power does most certainly corrupt" sounds a lot more like akin to Thanos' "The Stones served no purpose beyond temptation" rather than literal Corruption
Interesting
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It's only an actor statement, but it at least seems worth mentioning that the Captain Marvel Movie Special apparently has a statement from Jude Law that Carol Danvers was brought back to life with the Kree blood transfusion, suggesting that she was actually dead for a little while:
This is, coincidentally or not, consistent with the effects Kree blood had on humans in Agents of SHIELD (though Coulson being alive post-Avengers was still referenced in the Wakanda Files book)
This is, coincidentally or not, consistent with the effects Kree blood had on humans in Agents of SHIELD (though Coulson being alive post-Avengers was still referenced in the Wakanda Files book)
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Kinda stupid that objects that exist in every universe surpass the otherwise most powerful being in the multiverse at their fullest
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how was thanos planning on surviving after he destroyed the universe
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Not everyone can use them to their fullest ultron stated that he evolved
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Why do you think I specified "at their full power"
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not what I mean lol I mean how was he planning on surviving the universe wiping attack that he was about to do
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Probably cuz it was gonna be via deconstruction hax
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Would Low 1c Thanos even be combat applicable
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Very unlikely, unless he's bloodlusted, since using that much power should essentially be a suicide attack and the best that Thanos is known to be capable of with the Stones is 3-A
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Can’t he just use it and amp himself like ultron did to survive
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Out-of-character
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I mean he can technically do it or no
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Well, he has the ability to amp himself, but whether he can use the Stones to power himself like Ultron, I dunno
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What did the watcher and ultron mean when they stated he evolved
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The way I saw it, was that What If Ultron made his suit of armor specifically to safely channel the power of the Infinity Stones through his whole body without having to do a lot of gestures, unlike the Infinity Gauntlet which always needs gestures to activate, and seems to concentrate all its power into the arm wielding it.
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Also, think of this. The Nano Gauntlet vs the Mark 85.
Prof. Hulk, despite being more well suited to handle the power of the Infinity Stones, was still in immense pain when using the Nano Gauntlet.
Whereas, Tony, despite dying afterwards, was able to endure the pain better than Prof. Hulk did when using the Mark 85 in place of the Nano Gauntlet.
It's also applicable to the last episode of What If S1, when Zola and Killmonger were fighting over the stones.
When Zola was taking the stones away from Killmonger, he was also trying to deconstruct and transfer Infinity Ultron's Armor to him.
Same as how Killmonger used an Ultron Sentry head to deconstruct and transfer Infinity Ultron's Armor and the Infinity Stones to himself, then channel their power without any repercussions.
Prof. Hulk, despite being more well suited to handle the power of the Infinity Stones, was still in immense pain when using the Nano Gauntlet.
Whereas, Tony, despite dying afterwards, was able to endure the pain better than Prof. Hulk did when using the Mark 85 in place of the Nano Gauntlet.
It's also applicable to the last episode of What If S1, when Zola and Killmonger were fighting over the stones.
When Zola was taking the stones away from Killmonger, he was also trying to deconstruct and transfer Infinity Ultron's Armor to him.
Same as how Killmonger used an Ultron Sentry head to deconstruct and transfer Infinity Ultron's Armor and the Infinity Stones to himself, then channel their power without any repercussions.
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From what I understand, IU didn't make the armor for that. The reason why he could channel the Stones safely is because he's a machine and thus isn't affected by the gamma radiation of the Stones like an organic being would be. The armor is just there to hold the Stones and keep them with him, it's more useful and enables him to get around the whole need a gesture thing but I was always under the impression he didn't need it to channel the Stones
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I think they're kind of panicking honestly. For a decade the MCU was a total success and they thought it would be easy to follow Endgame and they could make tons and tons of series and movies. Unfortunately, the success isn't as big, their series get more and more criticism and people are more and more open about the fact they're starting to be tired of superhero stuff being everywhere, especially Marvel. The MCU formula is getting weaker. To me, they clearly didn't expect things to turn out like this, they thought they were safe and could use the same formula but it's not really working. They're tried to ignore it but they simply can't now. I mean, look at how they reacted to Ant-Man 3's release, apparently they thought this would be a big hit no matter what and they were surprised when it wasn't.
They had everything planned thinking this was a sure success but now they see they're starting to losing viewers, fans and money. They didn't expect that. And now the actor playing their next big Thanos-scale villain is under fire.
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