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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Blame the MCU snd its quality fall off
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I’m sure there’s at least some stuff to talk about
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I sqw an article about how Marvel was gonna focus more on "guaranteed successes", and to not expect stuff like Captain Marvel 3 or Ant-Man 4. Does that count?
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so frickin true...
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It's not MCU related
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Maybe it’s a variant universe or no
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I thought it would at least be an alternate timeline, there are rumors of them showing up in what if s3
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I don't trust rumors for the most part, most rumors are just guesses of people who want clicks. Anyways it doesn't seem like Marvel is really going that way.
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MCU Eternity's profile says it has a "pocket reality"
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Eternity_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)#:~:text=5 References-,Summary,universe, expanding life and creation.
Where is the WoG statement that Thor enters a "pocket reality" instead of standing before the true Eternity itself?
Because the book "The Art of Marvel Studios Thor Love & Thunder" says:
"As Gorr steps through, they all find themselves before the cosmic entity he was seeking: Eternity"
"Eternity, the living embodiment of the universe, was introduced into Marvel Comics as long ago as 1965's Strange Tales #138, from the boundless imagination of Stan Lee and Steve Ditko. In sheer scale, he is the biggest character that Andy Park has translated for the Marvel Cinematic Universe"
"But eventually, Taika went, 'Let's keep it simple and stick with what Eternity looks like in the comics"
Note that VSB has comic book Hank Pym scaling to low outerverse level for ascending to Eternity's plane of existence.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hank_Pym_(Marvel_Comics)
So if there is no WoG statement about Love & Thunder showing Eternity's pocket reality manifestation, the only WoG statements available (which I provide here above) are that L&T showed the actual Eternity, which literally is a universe.
That would mean Stormbreaker can transcend people outside the universe and grow them in physical size to large multi-galactic based on onscreen visuals. And Thor currently possesses Stormbreaker.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Eternity_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)#:~:text=5 References-,Summary,universe, expanding life and creation.
Where is the WoG statement that Thor enters a "pocket reality" instead of standing before the true Eternity itself?
Because the book "The Art of Marvel Studios Thor Love & Thunder" says:
"As Gorr steps through, they all find themselves before the cosmic entity he was seeking: Eternity"
"Eternity, the living embodiment of the universe, was introduced into Marvel Comics as long ago as 1965's Strange Tales #138, from the boundless imagination of Stan Lee and Steve Ditko. In sheer scale, he is the biggest character that Andy Park has translated for the Marvel Cinematic Universe"
"But eventually, Taika went, 'Let's keep it simple and stick with what Eternity looks like in the comics"
Note that VSB has comic book Hank Pym scaling to low outerverse level for ascending to Eternity's plane of existence.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hank_Pym_(Marvel_Comics)
So if there is no WoG statement about Love & Thunder showing Eternity's pocket reality manifestation, the only WoG statements available (which I provide here above) are that L&T showed the actual Eternity, which literally is a universe.
That would mean Stormbreaker can transcend people outside the universe and grow them in physical size to large multi-galactic based on onscreen visuals. And Thor currently possesses Stormbreaker.
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I wonder if that statement about Eternity being the highest scale character would be cause to scale above the Celestials
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Thor already scales above celestial he had them shaking in their boots
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I meant Eternity scaling above Arishem
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Why wouldn’t an abstract scale above a celestial?
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I personally think he would--but before now we didn't really have anything to scale MCU Eternity from
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New MCU Thor CRT:
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2-B MCU Thor & Thanos: WoG Proofs
MCU Thor and Thanos should be upgraded to 2-B because there are WoG statements that Thanos was the most powerful villain shown in the MCU at that point, hence above 2-B Dormammu, and Thor hurled Stormbreaker, which WoG called the "ultimate weapon", and hence above the Gauntlet, through Thanos'...
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Unbelievable y’all actually closed the thread before we could debunk y’all’s arguments
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I don’t even care about the characters the axe is stated numerous times to be that strong has absolutely 0 anti feats has never been damaged or cracked and has on screen feats of negging the gauntlet
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Because I wanted the Stormbreaker upgradeWhy does it even matter if he's Low 1-C with all the stones man
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More specifically the axe she can’t crush the axe lol
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Why doesn't the axe scale to the Infinity Stone tho tbh?
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The CRT just got rejected because WoG have little value unless it's in the movies, also as far as I saw they never said the axe is above the infinity gaunlet they said its above the gaunlet, so Stormbreaker scaling above the gaunlet sure but above the gaunlet with the infinity stones not so much.
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It can’t get rejected because it’s shown in the film the IG got completely negged and has 0 proof could do anything to it outside of hax
You can’t reject numerous wog guide books and on screen feat + intent by the man who literally created the infinity gauntlet
Are you a troll above gauntlet without stones like is that a joke has the be the dumbest thing you’ve ever said
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Most people just did it, why can't you accept the truth of what just happened?
Eitri never made the stones, only the gaunlet.
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Because the people who did lack common sense like 1 guy thought everyone who scaled to hulk is star level does it make it true the entire point of crt are to change things that people didn’t think of which happens all the time
And? He made a device that could harness all 6 stones also You watched infinity war correct you know the plot of the movie right
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Thanos had 2 infinity stones in the gauntlet he was already to powerful to stop stated by Thor who needed a weapon that could defeat him and his gauntlet which already has infinity stones in it
Like please man I know your smarter then this
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Make things worse is Russo bros did say the infinity gauntlet not just the base gauntlet in one of their wogs
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1 guy thinking doesn't make it true. But that still doesn't change your CRT getting rejected.
So? Still doesn't make the gaunlet scale to the stones, Eitri made Stormbreaker to be stronger than the gaunlet that he created not the stones that Thanos added afterwards.
Eitri doesn't know the infinity stones, nor how powerful they are, he only made what he could, what he could do is create a weapon that can defeat his own creation.
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"How is Stormbreaker able to take the brunt of 6 stones?" (Anthony Russo) "It's the greatest weapon ever made".
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Infinity stones ain't weapons.
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It clearly wasn’t 1 or star level everyone wouldn’t of been made regardless
Also that wasn’t my crt stormbreaker is absolutely that strong you not liking that isn’t my problem
what are you on about the gauntlet was never as strong as the stones themselves doesn’t change the fact it scales above the gauntlet and it’s max capability
My guy you spout random nonsense 24/7 who said eitri made infinity stones lol like no wonder it’s so easy to debunk your arguments because you yourself don’t even know what your talking about half the time
Delusional eitri has to know or he can’t make a device that can harness all 6 my guy obviously he doesn’t know their full capability but he knows some of it or he couldn’t make the gauntlet in the first place
He made a weapon that could defeat the infinity gauntlet congratulations on debunking yourself
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The gauntlet and stones is a weapon I’m not trying to be rude you can’t be this dumb like your 100% trolling I know you are at this point
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It wasn't accepted so... where you getting with this?
That CRT being rejected means the one with the problem is not me is you
The gaunlet was destroyed when the stones where used on a 3-A feat, so obviously the gaunlet can't actually handle the stones full power
I said he din't made it so scaling the Stormbreaker above the stones is your own nonsense
The gaunlet was destroyed when the stones where used on a 3-A feat, so obviously the gaunlet can't actually handle the stones full power
He made a weapon to defeat his previous creation which was a gaunlet not a gaunlet with infinity stones thank you very muchHe made a weapon that could defeat the infinity gauntlet congratulations on debunking yourself
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If I made an axe crt it almost certainly would because my argument has like 6 wog + on screen feat + intent from the guy who literally made the gauntlet
ughh no it doesn’t because if you actually read what I said that wasn’t my crt I don’t care to upgrade what ever character that strong I only care that the axe is being downplayed by this site
He doesn’t have to make it you goof he made the device capable of harnessing all 6 stones then made another the axe capable of defeating the stones and the gauntlet
The gauntlet was fried not destroyed and the gauntlet withstood snapping the universe and destroying the stones obviously it can’t handle maximum output it isn’t ultron or something and this is irrelevant what ever Thanos profile is for the gauntlet is what ever the axe would scale above
thank you very much this proves your trolling because nobody can be this goofy
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Don't you guys think that the future of Marvel Studios is under threat? In terms of, they are now coming out with solid passing projects that earn little cash and receive low grades, so in the future do they decide to stay at the same level of fanservice? Have you noticed that Marvel hasn't been doing anything new and ordinary lately? 3 spider-Man is a solid fanservice. The film itself is wooden, you must agree. If it hadn't been for the old spiders and villains, there wouldn't have been a movie in principle. In the future, they want to add a MILLION old favorite characters to the new parts of the Avengers. What for? And so that the viewer would be led and put a lot of money in his hands. I think that the new Avengers will not represent anything new, cool, like future Marvel projects. They got all the juice out of themselves, apparently, at the Finale, and indeed, the Marvel cinematic universe ended exactly and exactly when Tony made the click. A sequel to the X-Men has now been released... It's cool, definitely, but, again, this is a solid product for fans rather than for new viewers. If earlier I was waiting, of course, absolutely waiting for every Marvel project, now, when I see the news about a new project, I think: "Oh, yes, this is the pipeline again." I am interested in Sony's experiments, for example, with Kraven (it will also be rated R) ... forget about Madame Web. But I don't know if Marvel will provide something of high quality in the near future (I really have already lost hope). I'm waiting for Blade, Thunderbolts and Daredevil, but I'm afraid that my expectations will be spoiled again, because these projects were constantly being reshot, remade (ALTHOUGH WHAT'S DIFFICULT HERE???, to make a carbon copy of old parts or stuff old characters and a villain into the film, who will be humiliated in one film, as it usually happens). I'm sorry that I interrupted your dialogue (it looks like you were discussing completely different topics), but still, what do you think of my words?
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