Excellence616
He/Him- 5,992
- 4,301
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
- Thread starter Valiant_Abyss
- Start date
Excellence616
He/Him- 5,992
- 4,301
Excellence616
He/Him- 5,992
- 4,301
Lacku
He/Him- 3,314
- 4,583
- 8,413
- 10,656
Hulk with a beard goes hard
Excellence616
He/Him- 5,992
- 4,301
I hope it's Maestro
- 4,112
- 8,390
- 9,120
- 13,729
No joke, I went to see it with a friend in the biggest room of the theater, we were like ten
- 9,120
- 13,729
We're seeing Prime Odin here. Looks beyond badass (and yes, I'm calling dibs on him, he's MINE)
- 9,120
- 13,729
Also, more Strange Supreme? Of yeah, that's what we need. Plus looking foward to the new Native American superheroine
- 2,575
- 617
I want to see Odin bro had like nothing in the films
Excellence616
He/Him- 5,992
- 4,301
What happened to this?Not too sure if I jumped the gun with this one but I was recommended to make a CRT about the Jotunheim Shockwave feat that's been avoided for evaluation forever.
[MCU] Possible High 6-A Pre & Post-Awakening Upgrade
I was recommended by @Dalesean027 to make a CRT about this calc. as it has been looked at by a few calc. members and no concrete conclusion has been made on it yet: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:RoTt35/Thor_shatters_a_continental_shelf_and_shakes_Jotunheim_(Shockwave_Edition)...vsbattles.com
- 8,997
- 9,718
The current calc is better and The Marvels stuff will be given its own CRT
- 2,575
- 617
Hopefully Thanos isn’t a fraud this season
- 8,355
- 8,846
By L&T it technically made him fodder
- 2,575
- 617
Has nothing to due with what I’m talking about I mean how last season they kept making him die over and over in dumb ways
- 9,120
- 13,729
Or being reduced to a comical character in Star-Lord episode. At least the Ultron death helped to establish Infinity Ultron's threat and gave us a fantastic villain and episode. Judging by the trailer, he seems he might be a genuine threat once again, though I somehow hope he won't be the main villain (if there is one)
- 8,355
- 8,846
Oh wait, you're talking about What If, I got confused as you didn't exactly specify
- 2,575
- 617
The new trailer had him struggling with cap and he gets killed by gamora so not looking good
- 9,120
- 13,729
For the struggling part, if I see correctly, it's more Cap dodging his attacks than anything else (there's also a shot on the Time Stone shining, maybe Cap will get time powers). We also see hone of his variants facing Carter and Kahhori, considering the latter gets her powers from the Tesseract he wil likely go after her to get the Stone. Hopefully this Variant at least will be a greater threat
- 668
- 732
Very excited for season 2
- 418
- 147
What this confirms is Strange is absolutely useless AF. He should've looked through more possible outcomes.
- 9,120
- 13,729
Except not. What if establishes that each universe has its own set of Infinity Stones and each one can only work in their own universe with each universe having infinite possibilities for new timelines but said timelines are specific to said universe). So when he looked at all outcomes, he could only see the outcomes and timelines that would appear from them, in his own universe and not alternate universe. Not ot mention that at this point, there was only the Sacred Timeline so there was no other possibility
- 418
- 147
Strange only saw 14,000,605 possible outcomes. Said outcomes go beyond the scope of the main universe/timeline. Just as Infinity Ultron can use the stones elsewhere because he amps himself, Strange sees what CAN be, what would branch into alternate universes, by projecting his consciousness through time.
- 2,575
- 617
The fact cap can even do that means he’s struggling endgame thanos had no issue keeping up with him and in the trailer cap is literally dancing around him
- 8,997
- 9,718
- 418
- 147
It's not like this isn't Cap at his best, by virtue of being on the run and breaking up terrorist organizations for 2 years. Endgame Cap explicitly let go of things, wanting to move on. Dude was damn near losing to himself with only a bit of Strike team training, after New York. Then again, 2012 Cap put on a new suit, so maybe he got some drugs to spruce himself up.
- 9,120
- 13,729
But only in his universe. What if establishes each universe has infinite possibilities, each one can have infinities of timelines and the Multiverse as a whole includes all these infinities. That means that, for one universe, there are infinite timelines and possibilities. The Multiverse is a combination of an infinity of universes each one containing infinities of timelines. Plus, remember the Infinity Stones can only work in their universe so it's impossible to use them in another. The Sacred Timeline Thanos couldn't use his Stones in one of the What if universes for example. This means the possibilities Strange saw were limited to his own universe.
And again, at that time, there was only one universe: the Sacred Timeline. The Multiverse was unleashed during Loki's season one, which canonically happens after IW/Endgame and before What if. So at the moment Strange was looking up for outcomes to defeat Thanos, there was no other possibility than the ones in his own universe because there wasn't any other universe to look at period.
- 2,575
- 617
Cap shouldn’t be able to dance around him in either IW or endgame
- 418
- 147
Oh, now I see your point. Like, I was focusing on how What If starts out with a new timeline branching from the Sacred Timeline, but not how these branches literally don't exist for more than a second or two before they're pruned.
- 9,120
- 13,729
Probably more than a second or two but yeah, pretty much.
- 418
- 147
Sure, but Thanos was pretty nonchalant when going for Vision. Cap is the guy who goes all out against a guy he learned beat up Hulk, so there's a real difference in effort.
- 2,575
- 617
Timelines are now called realms in mcu
- 9,120
- 13,729
Tbf, Thanos wasn't shown to be exceptionally fast by himself, yes he can react to attacks from superpowered beings but movement speed and reaction speed are different things. Fragile speedsters dodging attacks from far stronger opponents are not unheard. Of course, we'll have to see the episode. Maybe it's another case of Thanos being arrogant and not putting any strong effort like in the Ultron timeline or Cap was enhanced in some way
- 2,575
- 617
Yeah but this thanos had the full gauntlet
- 2,575
- 617
Thanos when injured reacted to a photon blast from captain marvel and kept up which Thor and worthy cap in close combat
- 9,120
- 13,729
You mean the one from the trailer or the one from IW? Cause in the movie he didn't have the full Gauntlet, he was going after Vision to get the Mind Stone. Not sure in the trailer but judging from the scenery, I would say this takes place during that specific scene
- 2,575
- 617
The one in the trailer had full gauntlet you can literally see the mind stone in his gauntlet
- 9,120
- 13,729
Like I said, maybe this Thanos was more full of himself than his Sacred Timeline counterpart. In the Ultron episode, Bryan Andrews confirmed that Ultron killed him so easily less because Ultron was that strong and more because this particular Thanos was more prideful and overconfident than his Sacred Timeline counterpart. As such, he let his guard down and Ultron took advantage of it. Andrews stressed that there were likely many timelines where this wasn't the case and Ultron was the one to die.
