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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Lacku
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Hulk with a beard goes hard
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I hope it's Maestro
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No joke, I went to see it with a friend in the biggest room of the theater, we were like ten
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We're seeing Prime Odin here. Looks beyond badass (and yes, I'm calling dibs on him, he's MINE)
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Also, more Strange Supreme? Of yeah, that's what we need. Plus looking foward to the new Native American superheroine
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I want to see Odin bro had like nothing in the films
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What happened to this?Not too sure if I jumped the gun with this one but I was recommended to make a CRT about the Jotunheim Shockwave feat that's been avoided for evaluation forever.
[MCU] Possible High 6-A Pre & Post-Awakening Upgrade
I was recommended by @Dalesean027 to make a CRT about this calc. as it has been looked at by a few calc. members and no concrete conclusion has been made on it yet: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:RoTt35/Thor_shatters_a_continental_shelf_and_shakes_Jotunheim_(Shockwave_Edition)...vsbattles.com
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The current calc is better and The Marvels stuff will be given its own CRT
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Hopefully Thanos isn’t a fraud this season
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By L&T it technically made him fodder
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Has nothing to due with what I’m talking about I mean how last season they kept making him die over and over in dumb ways
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Or being reduced to a comical character in Star-Lord episode. At least the Ultron death helped to establish Infinity Ultron's threat and gave us a fantastic villain and episode. Judging by the trailer, he seems he might be a genuine threat once again, though I somehow hope he won't be the main villain (if there is one)
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Oh wait, you're talking about What If, I got confused as you didn't exactly specify
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The new trailer had him struggling with cap and he gets killed by gamora so not looking good
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For the struggling part, if I see correctly, it's more Cap dodging his attacks than anything else (there's also a shot on the Time Stone shining, maybe Cap will get time powers). We also see hone of his variants facing Carter and Kahhori, considering the latter gets her powers from the Tesseract he wil likely go after her to get the Stone. Hopefully this Variant at least will be a greater threat
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Very excited for season 2
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What this confirms is Strange is absolutely useless AF. He should've looked through more possible outcomes.
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Except not. What if establishes that each universe has its own set of Infinity Stones and each one can only work in their own universe with each universe having infinite possibilities for new timelines but said timelines are specific to said universe). So when he looked at all outcomes, he could only see the outcomes and timelines that would appear from them, in his own universe and not alternate universe. Not ot mention that at this point, there was only the Sacred Timeline so there was no other possibility
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Strange only saw 14,000,605 possible outcomes. Said outcomes go beyond the scope of the main universe/timeline. Just as Infinity Ultron can use the stones elsewhere because he amps himself, Strange sees what CAN be, what would branch into alternate universes, by projecting his consciousness through time.
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The fact cap can even do that means he’s struggling endgame thanos had no issue keeping up with him and in the trailer cap is literally dancing around him
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It's not like this isn't Cap at his best, by virtue of being on the run and breaking up terrorist organizations for 2 years. Endgame Cap explicitly let go of things, wanting to move on. Dude was damn near losing to himself with only a bit of Strike team training, after New York. Then again, 2012 Cap put on a new suit, so maybe he got some drugs to spruce himself up.
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But only in his universe. What if establishes each universe has infinite possibilities, each one can have infinities of timelines and the Multiverse as a whole includes all these infinities. That means that, for one universe, there are infinite timelines and possibilities. The Multiverse is a combination of an infinity of universes each one containing infinities of timelines. Plus, remember the Infinity Stones can only work in their universe so it's impossible to use them in another. The Sacred Timeline Thanos couldn't use his Stones in one of the What if universes for example. This means the possibilities Strange saw were limited to his own universe.
And again, at that time, there was only one universe: the Sacred Timeline. The Multiverse was unleashed during Loki's season one, which canonically happens after IW/Endgame and before What if. So at the moment Strange was looking up for outcomes to defeat Thanos, there was no other possibility than the ones in his own universe because there wasn't any other universe to look at period.
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Cap shouldn’t be able to dance around him in either IW or endgame
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Oh, now I see your point. Like, I was focusing on how What If starts out with a new timeline branching from the Sacred Timeline, but not how these branches literally don't exist for more than a second or two before they're pruned.
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Probably more than a second or two but yeah, pretty much.
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Sure, but Thanos was pretty nonchalant when going for Vision. Cap is the guy who goes all out against a guy he learned beat up Hulk, so there's a real difference in effort.
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Timelines are now called realms in mcu
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Tbf, Thanos wasn't shown to be exceptionally fast by himself, yes he can react to attacks from superpowered beings but movement speed and reaction speed are different things. Fragile speedsters dodging attacks from far stronger opponents are not unheard. Of course, we'll have to see the episode. Maybe it's another case of Thanos being arrogant and not putting any strong effort like in the Ultron timeline or Cap was enhanced in some way
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Yeah but this thanos had the full gauntlet
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Thanos when injured reacted to a photon blast from captain marvel and kept up which Thor and worthy cap in close combat
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You mean the one from the trailer or the one from IW? Cause in the movie he didn't have the full Gauntlet, he was going after Vision to get the Mind Stone. Not sure in the trailer but judging from the scenery, I would say this takes place during that specific scene
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The one in the trailer had full gauntlet you can literally see the mind stone in his gauntlet
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Like I said, maybe this Thanos was more full of himself than his Sacred Timeline counterpart. In the Ultron episode, Bryan Andrews confirmed that Ultron killed him so easily less because Ultron was that strong and more because this particular Thanos was more prideful and overconfident than his Sacred Timeline counterpart. As such, he let his guard down and Ultron took advantage of it. Andrews stressed that there were likely many timelines where this wasn't the case and Ultron was the one to die.
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