MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

[sanicspood]

Is there a reason why we’re using that mid moon knight render and we removed type 4 and 8 immortality??

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I think Resistance to Invisibility should just be enhanced senses

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Alrighty thats the last thing that was missing from the profile to add, here it is up now

About the Pseudo-Flight, wasn't Marc able to fly by himself when fighting Harrow, he flew from the Great Pyramid of Giza to outer parts of Cairo? IMO Khonshu either just helped Marc gain a high enough altitude to fly or gave Marc Flight then and there.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Disagree with scaling the eclipse feat to the rest of his stats, unless he performed it physically it should not scale to durability and striking strength

Then something like"At least MK tier/Khonshu own physical tier physically, at least 5-B, likely 4-B+ with powers"?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Then something like"At least MK tier/Khonshu own physical tier physically, at least 5-B, likely 4-B+ with powers"?

What about this?

At Least MK Tier (Insert the justification for being comparable to or above MK), Far Higher or Tier X in Giant Form (Self Explanatory or Usage of Calc). At Least Tier 5 up to Tier 4 with Spatial Manipulation (Insert the justification for both Tiers)

 

[Dalesean027]

Spoiler: New look at Thor and Thor lol

Definitely looks way better here than anywhere else however it could do with less lines going through the suit but the color scheme is fine

 

[Propellus]

Spoiler: New look at Thor and Thor lol

Definitely looks way better here than anywhere else however it could do with less lines going through the suit but the color scheme is fine

Most likely their fight scene is gonna be both of them smashing

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Most likely their fight scene is gonna be both of them smashing

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Spoiler: New look at Thor and Thor lol

Definitely looks way better here than anywhere else however it could do with less lines going through the suit but the color scheme is fine

The armours look really cool imo

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Nothing wrong with a little smashing

 

[Dalesean027]

The armours look really cool imo

They definitely do but I feel like if they just simplified it even a bit more it'd be perfect

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Nothing wrong with a little smashing

Only if it's this kind of smashing

 

[Propellus]

Spoiler: New look at Thor and Thor lol

Definitely looks way better here than anywhere else however it could do with less lines going through the suit but the color scheme is fine

But then again, his suit does look comic accurate, but what bothers me is that, why did MCU Thor never wear the helmet?

 

[Dalesean027]

Only if it's this kind of smashing

Gonna be honest I was not ready seeing this image load top to bottom the bottom text reveal

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

They definitely do but I feel like if they just simplified it even a bit more it'd be perfect

Idk, the lines through the suit make it look complex and modern to me, but I can see how simplifying it could be good

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

But then again, his suit does look comic accurate, but what bothers me is that, why did MCU Thor never wear the helmet?

Well he did once for a short while

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

But then again, his suit does look comic accurate, but what bothers me is that, why did MCU Thor never wear the helmet?

Well he did once for a short while

^This. Plus, the helmet kept falling off when Chris Hemsworth had to do fight scenes, so they just ditched it for the rest of the movie.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I suppose they could've CGI'ed the helmet in, but tbh, it looks kinda goofy imo

 

[Propellus]

^This. Plus, the helmet kept falling off when Chris Hemsworth had to do fight scenes, so they just ditched it for the rest of the movie.

Makes sense, imagine if they just kept that in and continously have him fight and always have his helmet fall off

 

[Lacku]

About the Pseudo-Flight, wasn't Marc able to fly by himself when fighting Harrow, he flew from the Great Pyramid of Giza to outer parts of Cairo? IMO Khonshu either just helped Marc gain a high enough altitude to fly or gave Marc Flight then and there.

So out of those two do we say that Marc can straight up just fly or do we say that he glides sort of like how batman glides

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Speaking of thor

Asgard appears to be equal to the earth in size in this graph.

So as melpelheim or whatever its called (surters planet)

 

[Lacku]

Where's that screenshot from?

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Where's that screenshot from?

Thor the dark world (i have no idea where exactly but i will look for it)

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

So out of those two do we say that Marc can straight up just fly or do we say that he glides sort of like how batman glides

Not sure, in the desert, Khonshu sent him high up in the air and on the pyramid he was high up. But he was also able to sustain that elevation for a long duration beginning in the desert to the pyramid

 

[Lacku]

Not sure, in the desert, Khonshu sent him high up in the air and on the pyramid he was high up. But he was also able to sustain that elevation for a long duration beginning in the desert to the pyramid

I think when he was flying from Ammits tomb to the Pyramid of Giza that was Khonshu using the wind to propel him towards Harrow, and when he and Harrow were kindve flying towards Cairo I think that was Marc gliding, so on his own at the right height with no help from Khonshu he can glide

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Thor the dark world (i have no idea where exactly but i will look for it)

Yeah, so i spent around 40 minutes looking and found pretty much nothing.
There is a total of 4 people on google who have said anything about this image.

But I will say this, it definitely comes from one of malekiths ships. Because they have the same blue holograph

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I think when he was flying from Ammits tomb to the Pyramid of Giza that was Khonshu using the wind to propel him towards Harrow, and when he and Harrow were kindve flying towards Cairo I think that was Marc gliding, so on his own at the right height with no help from Khonshu he can glide

We could check again. I slowed the video to 0.25x speed and saw Marc do weird things mid air not sure how to describe it.

 

[Lacku]

Yeah, so i spent around 40 minutes looking and found pretty much nothing.
There is a total of 4 people on google who have said anything about this image.

But I will say this, it definitely comes from one of malekiths ships. Because they have the same blue holograph

If it does end up being from the movie (which I think it is but it's a prob a blink and you'll miss it moment) what do we plan to use it for? Possible upgrades?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

If it does end up being from the movie (which I think it is but it's a prob a blink and you'll miss it moment) what do we plan to use it for? Possible upgrades?

Surtr AP and Odin travel speed from the top of my head.

 

[Lacku]

We could check again. I slowed the video to 0.25x speed and saw Marc do weird things mid air not sure how to describe it.

Yeah I know what you mean, but I think the unorthodox shape of Moon Knights cape is probably the cause when he's gliding by himself

 

[Lacku]

Surtr AP and Odin travel speed from the top of my head.

Wasn't there a lot of debate over whether Surtr destroying Asgard scaled to his AP iirc?

 

[Propellus]

Is Asgard a planet or just a country? Because I've heard a lot of rumors saying that it isn't

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Yeah I know what you mean, but I think the unorthodox shape of Moon Knights cape is probably the cause when he's gliding by himself

In the beginning portion of his flight to Cairo his cape wasn't opened up and how about when he turns around mid air and rises up to Harrow's elevation?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Wasn't there a lot of debate over whether Surtr destroying Asgard scaled to his AP iirc?

Technically wouldn't it still be an upgrade since if Asgard has the diameter of earth Surtr destroyed chunks of it at a time before his suicide? And it'd also affect Surtr's final size?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Also Surtur destroying Asgard is used as an anti-feat as it killed him, so the yield being higher would make the characters being at a higher tier more reasonable

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Is Asgard a planet or just a country?

"Asgard is a small, planetary body that serves as home to the Asgardians, a race of beings recognized by humans on Earth as the deities of Norse mythology, such as Thor and Odin. It is not round like the Earth, does not spin on its axis, and does not revolve around a star. It is a flat, asteroid-like mass that has a top surface with a gravitational pull, similar to that of the Earth, in order to keep the citizens and their cities from floating into the void."

 

[Lacku]

In the beginning portion of his flight to Cairo his cape wasn't opened up and how about when he turns around mid air and rises up to Harrow's elevation?

The thing about Moon Knights cape is (and I'm not 100% certain about this) I think the way its shaped it catches air so when Steven switched to Marc it was almost like a parachute reaction

 

[Dalesean027]

"Asgard is a small, planetary body that serves as home to the Asgardians, a race of beings recognized by humans on Earth as the deities of Norse mythology, such as Thor and Odin. It is not round like the Earth, does not spin on its axis, and does not revolve around a star. It is a flat, asteroid-like mass that has a top surface with a gravitational pull, similar to that of the Earth, in order to keep the citizens and their cities from floating into the void."

So essentially a sandwich shop?

In that case I'd like musphelheim special with Eitri's fresh flatbread toasted with Hushallsost cheese and a cut of Toothgnasher meat

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Nah man, it's literally a body.

There's a reason why people visit Asgard for its giant cake

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

The thing about Moon Knights cape is (and I'm not 100% certain about this) I think the way its shaped it catches air so when Steven switched to Marc it was almost like a parachute reaction

But what about the turning around and rising up part at the 20 sec mark in the video? It happens after the cape opens up, stops Mark then he turns around, and rises up with the cape no longer catching air? I slowed it down to 0.25x speed to see it more clearly.