MCU: Minor, very simple buffs to some Characters

[Sir_Ovens]

Yeah, those two were outlined in the revision here right? Since it's just one page and 2 small changes, it should be fine.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Yeah, those two were outlined in the revision here right? Since it's just one page and 2 small changes, it should be fine.

Yup, it's the 5-A with the space stone and removing illusion negation

 

[Newendigo]

> Large Planet Level with the Space Stone (Threw half of a moon's surface at Massively Hypersonic+ speeds)

But he didn't.

He assumes that half a moon surface was launched at MHS+ when only some really minor rocks that put up together won't even encompass 2% of the mass of half moon crust that Therefir is calcing.

Same goes for the E Class, both shouldn't have been accepted...

 

[Antvasima]

@Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Eficiente @GyroNutz @The_Impress @Sir_Ovens

Newendigo seems to have a point. What do you think?

 

[GyroNutz]

I disagree with the notion Soul Stone can be used to "negate illusions", that was a very hyper specific scenario where Strange makes multiple of himself but Thanos recognizes the one who had a soul i.e. the original Doctor Strange.

If anything it is Strange's illusion's weakness there rather than Thanos' competence.

Honestly I don't see the problem with illusion negation here. He was able to get rid of all the illusions, and illusionary copies don't have souls by default assumption anyway.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Bump
Can some staff give input on Newendigo's view???

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump
Can some staff give input on Newendigo's view???

Yeah, same? That's a pretty big thing he brought up.

 

[Antvasima]

@Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Eficiente @GyroNutz @The_Impress @Sir_Ovens

Some input regarding Newendigo's comment would be appreciated.

 

[Newendigo]

I don't think anything can be debated over this, Therefir assume something that is clear-cut wrong, as anyone can see in the very video that the OP posted, we don't use the calc, simple as that.

Now on other things

• The statement of Odin being stronger than Surtur must be shown.
• I don't think Surtur caused the first shockwave, but rather the core of asgard before processing to fully wipe the realm. Albeit he did tanked it so is still scalable, I think.
• I do agree with Thanos having a variable range with each stone. But disagree with the notion of Soul Stone directly negating the illusions, rather than just simply working as a radar.

 

[Antvasima]

Newendigo:

You should probably write yourself down as a knowledgeable member.

 

[Newendigo]

Done

 

[The_Impress]

Can someone contact Therefir at least to tell him that :V

 

[Antvasima]

@Therefir

You should preferably read the posts from Newendigo in this thread.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I don't think anything can be debated over this, Therefir assume something that is clear-cut wrong, as anyone can see in the very video that the OP posted, we don't use the calc, simple as that.

Now on other things

• The statement of Odin being stronger than Surtur must be shown.
• I don't think Surtur caused the first shockwave, but rather the core of asgard before processing to fully wipe the realm. Albeit he did tanked it so is still scalable, I think.
• I do agree with Thanos having a variable range with each stone. But disagree with the notion of Soul Stone directly negating the illusions, rather than just simply working as a radar.

Admittedly, the moon in a later scene does looks radically different from right after Thanos threw the meteors, as shown here.

 

[Newendigo]

Fragments of the of the crust seems to be separeting from the main body, but they are still close to the orbit of the moon. While only negligible pieces are falling, likely an after effect of the TK-ed meteors (As they appear way after Thanos makes the move).

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Bump.
Need some staff input please

 

[Antvasima]

@Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Eficiente @GyroNutz @Sir_Ovens @Therefir

Anyone?

 

[GyroNutz]

"I do agree with Thanos having a variable range with each stone. But disagree with the notion of Soul Stone directly negating the illusions, rather than just simply working as a radar."

But he was also shown to get rid of each of the illusions though. He detected which one was the real Strange and then got rid of every other illusion.

I haven't got anything else to add regarding the moon surface stuff.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.

If somebody writes a summary of the current issues that need to be evaluated, I can send notifications to some staff members who are not overly well-informed about this verse to help us out afterwards.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Okay. No problem.

If somebody writes a summary of the current issues that need to be evaluated, I can send notifications to some staff members who are not overly well-informed about this verse to help us out afterwards.

It's the opposite, we need knowledgable staff members to help us out, as they know the MCU and would have the best input for it (Other staff input are perfectly fine, but call knowledgable staff 1st). I can apply the results to the issues on the profiles.

The final issues:

1. A bit more input for the Moon Feat (Should the feat be removed???)
2. Should Illusion Negation be added???

 

[Therefir]

Thanos certainly affected a large part of the Moon's surface, but it seems he didn't throw all the rocks, so I guess my Space Stone calc can't be used.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I have already informed most of them, but I try again.

@The_real_cal_howard @Eficiente @Colonel_Krukov @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @LordGriffin1000 @Sir_Ovens @Starter_Pack

We seem to be stuck here, and need help to reach conclusions.

@Matthew_Schroeder @AKM sama

Are you able to help as well?

 

[Antvasima]

Thanos certainly affected a large part of the Moon's surface, but it seems he didn't throw all the rocks, so I guess my Space Stone calc can't be used.

Thank you for the input. That makes sense to me.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I could’ve sworn I responded...

 

[Antvasima]

Well, there are some new issues to evaluate here.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I agree with Newendigo. If that's the case, then I guess it should be probably be removed, doubly so if the original calcer agrees as well.

I agree with Newendigo and Impress on removing the soul stone ability. Perhaps it's more of an enhanced senses thing?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I could’ve sworn I responded...

We have some new problems which need input

 

[Antvasima]

So should we go with Newendigo's and Impress' interpretations then?

However, I am not sure what the profile pages currently say, and what needs to be changed.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

So should we go with Newendigo's and Impress' interpretations then?

However, I am not sure what the profile pages currently say, and what needs to be changed.

I think we could, 2 staff agreed with Newendigo (Who's also a very knowledgable member)
I can change what's needed, don't worry

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, but what, if any, statistics need to be changed?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Okay, but what, if any, statistics need to be changed?

The changes are:
1. remove Thanos's 5-A and class E.
2. Remove from the Infinity Gauntlet's profile Illusion negation

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That is probably fine then.

However, please remember to update the tier categories at the bottoms of the profile pages.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Okay. That is probably fine then.

However, please remember to update the tier categories at the bottoms of the profile pages.

I changed what was supposed to be changed on both profiles, this can be closed

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you.