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I disagree with that being your core argument for making this thread, that's all.
No opinion on the rest.
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MCU Hulk should be High 7-A+
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No opinion on the rest.
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Hulk got notably staggered by both blows and had to take time to shake off those hits
Getting stomped into the ground so hard that the Hulk stops wanting to be used by Banner is not a durability feat.
This reminds me of Hulk's old justification
Where it goes something like "Got stomped by Thor, Moved Surtur sorta until he was stomped. Staggered Thanos with a surprise hit then got demolished"
Personally its probably better to like, make him something like "Likely High 7-A" or "at most 6-C" rather than just 6-C. Hulk just honestly hasn't done enough to Thanos to get that rating. Even Iron Man did more and Iron is garbage compared to Thanos.
But if we are going with 6-C it would solely be with rainbow bridge scaling (which is sorta suspect since Thor's 7-A feat was with a charged lightning amped mjolnir strike). Even then he wouldn't be 10x Thor's AP since you don't need to have 10x power of something to replicate the damage of ten strikes since energy doesn't scale linearly like that.
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Noted. Updated OP.
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I’m pretty much in agreement with Qawsdef here, if Hulk is upgraded, he should be “At most 6-C.”
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There's reasons why that wasn't used long before this lmao
Coolboy6
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It was literally cracked so I don’t see why it wouldn’t be used. I said slightly cracking not outright staggering.
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In all seriousness, it's pretty okay justification for "At most 6-C"
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@Qawsedf234 Should I put you in agreement cuz 'at most 6-C' or nah?
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Coolboy6
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Or plain 6-C since Surtur does massively upscale from 6-C
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Tis is probably fine I suppose but considering the 6-C value Hulk downscales from is basically baseline, it'd be better if he was High 7-A+ rather than At most 6-C due to how miniscule that gap is.
Also I'd say Thor should receive a new key for being able to hold his gown against post sakaar Hulk. It being High 7-A+ as well.
Also I'd say Thor should receive a new key for being able to hold his gown against post sakaar Hulk. It being High 7-A+ as well.
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If it's post sakaar then its awakened Thor since that's what's immediately afterwards
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I'm talking about early Ragnarok Thor before he started awakening
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I suppose so it's just a weird point where he'd very briefly be 7-A+
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WDYM?
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There's no need for a High 7-A+ momentary Awakened Thor when 6-C already works for him obliterating Post-Sakaar Hulk, who is already at most 6-C
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Huh?? Are you not talking about a 7-A+ key for Thor pre-awakening on sakaar? That would only last from the beginning of Ragnarok until his awakening since there's no note of him being stronger than before in his previous appearance beforehand. That's why I said it'd be a very brief 7-A+ key if we make a new one for that time frame
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Actually nvm I just got what he said
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Although I don't know if it should be a new key or should just be put on to the already existing base Thor
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Is Thor noted as being stronger than he was before even disregarding his awakening?
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All I'm saying is that early Ragnarok Thor should gain a key and should be High 7-A+ for contending with Hulk. That's all. Pre Ragnarok Thor doesn't need to have changes
Not really. But it seems odd that a 7-A could briefly overpower an High7-A+
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I changed it to High 7-A+ since Hulk downscales from what's basically a baseline value
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That works. Restricted Surtur gets updated too because he contended equally with Early Ragnarok Thor.
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My badOkay I thought so, that's what I said at first
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Currently 9 agreement with 1 staff and 2 neutral with 1 staff as well. Can this thread go anywhere else?
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Probably one more staff agree for good measure.
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I suppose I should agree was well for 7-A+ since I haven't already
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man if only we had a 6-C-
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I'm honestly not sure. I share the same opinion as Qawsedf234. I guess Likely '''Large Mountain level+''' works.
Scottycj256
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Island level Minus
i guess something in between Large Mountain level+ and Island level
Large Mountain level+ by technicality is Island level minus
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That's 2 administrators in agree and 1 in neutral, also with quite a number of agrees and only 1 other neutral. Is it acceptable now?
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I suppose so.
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Don't forget that the Fire Dragon would also scale to Early Ragnarok Thor.
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Waiting for a staff member to say something again
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IMO a lot of the justifications can't really be used
Mainly that. He was clearly overpowered by both. Especially post-awakening thor who was already at least his equal pre-awakening. Scaling characters because they survived even though they were easily overpowered just doesn't work.
He caused minor damages to the bridge. Thor destroyed the bridge on several dozens of meters, both times. Also, pre awakening thor easily scales to the hulk, which is definitively a problem here.
Banner had no way of knowing if hulk was stronger than either of them. Could work as a supporting feat though.
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Agree with High 7-A+ Hulk
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If the points brought up by TypeOU can be properly addressed, then I could probably agree to Likely High 7-A for Hulk.
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