KingEzran
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So, I happened to be looking through Groot's page today, and I found something odd. Apparently his lifting strength was listed at Class 100, which wasn't something I would normally disagree with, but the only justification was "Should be stronger than his teenage form". Now, the only issue with this justification is that Teenage Groot is simply Peak Human, which means that justification makes nowhere near as much sense. Even if they provided a character that Groot scaled to that would be preferable, but looking through the Guardians...I don't really think any of them should be Class 100.
Star-Lord:
This is the one member of the Guardians that I don't have an issue with in terms of their Class 100, because it's only with his gadgets, and restraining Spider-Man as well as temporarily restraining Bleeding Edge Iron Man definitely qualifies him for this. But, this doesn't help anyone else on the guardians out because from my knowledge of the MCU (Note: I've watched GotG Vols. 1-2, Infinity War, and Endgame), considering we haven't really seen anyone else having to deal with Star-Lord's gadgets in this way.
(If anyone was gonna use Star-Lord's energy restraint in GotG to compare this to the other Guardians, no. Even if you were to assume this is the same kind of restraint he uses on Spider-Man, Gamora clearly slides it down rather than breaking out of it.)
Drax:
He supposedly scales to Cap and Bucky in terms of LS, but there's really not enough in the MCU to say that he does. But there's really nothing in the MCU that gives enough evidence for this claim, especially not in scaling of Lifting Strength. In fact, there's more to say otherwise, he couldn't even get up from the Cloak of Levitation's hold for over 30 seconds, which doesn't really have any big feats on its own. By far, the cloak's most impressive feat is keeping Thanos' hand open, but there are two issues with this. The first is that it only kept Thanos' hand open, which shouldn't scale anywhere near Thanos' full lifting strength, and the other thing is that the only reason he struggled to get it off was because he didn't get much of a chance with Spider-Man hitting him. Once he slammed Spider-Man, he took it off with one hand easily.
Groot:
As I've stated, his justification just says he's stronger than Peak Human.
My personal conclusion is that you could put them at Class 5 for scaling to Gamora or Class 1 considering Groot has plenty of feats that scale there. Now, to be clear, I am not explicitly saying these justifications are wrong. I am saying that I personally haven't found any justifications that explain these ratings and that if they are, they need to be put on the sheets.
Star-Lord:
This is the one member of the Guardians that I don't have an issue with in terms of their Class 100, because it's only with his gadgets, and restraining Spider-Man as well as temporarily restraining Bleeding Edge Iron Man definitely qualifies him for this. But, this doesn't help anyone else on the guardians out because from my knowledge of the MCU (Note: I've watched GotG Vols. 1-2, Infinity War, and Endgame), considering we haven't really seen anyone else having to deal with Star-Lord's gadgets in this way.
(If anyone was gonna use Star-Lord's energy restraint in GotG to compare this to the other Guardians, no. Even if you were to assume this is the same kind of restraint he uses on Spider-Man, Gamora clearly slides it down rather than breaking out of it.)
Drax:
He supposedly scales to Cap and Bucky in terms of LS, but there's really not enough in the MCU to say that he does. But there's really nothing in the MCU that gives enough evidence for this claim, especially not in scaling of Lifting Strength. In fact, there's more to say otherwise, he couldn't even get up from the Cloak of Levitation's hold for over 30 seconds, which doesn't really have any big feats on its own. By far, the cloak's most impressive feat is keeping Thanos' hand open, but there are two issues with this. The first is that it only kept Thanos' hand open, which shouldn't scale anywhere near Thanos' full lifting strength, and the other thing is that the only reason he struggled to get it off was because he didn't get much of a chance with Spider-Man hitting him. Once he slammed Spider-Man, he took it off with one hand easily.
Groot:
As I've stated, his justification just says he's stronger than Peak Human.
My personal conclusion is that you could put them at Class 5 for scaling to Gamora or Class 1 considering Groot has plenty of feats that scale there. Now, to be clear, I am not explicitly saying these justifications are wrong. I am saying that I personally haven't found any justifications that explain these ratings and that if they are, they need to be put on the sheets.
