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At Least Island Level
At the moment, Captain Marvel is rated as "At Least Island Level." The issue with this is that she doesn't really scale to anything above Island Level. She scales directly to Thanos for grappling with him. Thanos either upscales from the Thor calc or downscales from the IG's 5 gigatons. As this is barely above Baseline Island level and if I'm correct 10x away from Island level+, I fail to see her being At Least 6-C. Basically, her "At Least" needs to be removed ... however there is more to it than just that.
I misremembered "At Least" as meaning the character could be a higher tier (ie 6-C+) and not "Far higher than." Next point still exists as a reason for this though.
Removing Island Level
Captain Marvel really shouldn't be 6-C at all. Her justifications are 1) "Destroyed armored Kree ships when inexperienced.", 2) "Casually put an injured Thanos in a headlock.", 3) "Overpowered Thanos in a brief fight, though Thanos was already in pain from wearing the Nano Gauntlet, forcing him to use the Power Stone to defeat her." I'll next address why these aren't really justification for 6-C.
Well, this isn't entirely a downgrade. Captain Marvel deserves Energy Absorption. In the Marvel Studio: Character Encyclopedia Danvers is said to have a "Body able to absorb energy." On top of this, when Captain Marvel grapples the Nano Gauntlet wearing Thanos. Her aura starts to flare up, while the Infinity Stones stop glowing and the power stops flowing into Thanos. Thus I'm proposing that she starts to absorb the energy and get stronger. Supporting evidence is that she doesn't really put a fight before she gets her hands on the gauntlet.
Proposal
What I'm proposing is a few things. Captain Marvel should at the very least lose her "At Least" in the Island Level. There is no way she is more than 10x stronger than Base Thanos. Beyond that, Danvers should be High 7-A+, 6-C with Energy Absorption.
Counter Arguments
Scarlet Witch is At Least 6-C. She not only clearly stomped Thanos, but also had the power to destroy an Infinity Stone, her at least is justified.
Character Encyclopedia isn't used. Fair, but, Danvers still shouldn't scale to peak Thanos. He is barely 6-C and was already injured to the point of calling a bombardment on his troops.
She took a punch from the Power Stone. The Power Stone varies in power, and is specifically said to. Iron Man also tanked a blast from it, so if anything that's High 7-A+.
I misremembered "At Least" as meaning the character could be a higher tier (ie 6-C+) and not "Far higher than." Next point still exists as a reason for this though.
Removing Island Level
Captain Marvel really shouldn't be 6-C at all. Her justifications are 1) "Destroyed armored Kree ships when inexperienced.", 2) "Casually put an injured Thanos in a headlock.", 3) "Overpowered Thanos in a brief fight, though Thanos was already in pain from wearing the Nano Gauntlet, forcing him to use the Power Stone to defeat her." I'll next address why these aren't really justification for 6-C.
- "Destroyed armored Kree ships when inexperienced." Destroying armored Kree ships isn't 6-C at all. It's At least 8-A, but that's an inexperienced feat so doesn't really matter to her full power.
- "Casually put an injured Thanos in a headlock." This also isn't really a 6-C feat. This was Thanos after he used the stones to destroy the stones, in other words he wasn't injured he was crippled. What's more, we see a High 7-A+ character and a much lower character restrain the same Thanos's arms. So this is at best, an outlier for War Machine and a High 7-A+ feat, or a feat on par with War Machine at worst. Also, I'm fairly certain restraining isn't even an AP feat, but a LS feat.
- "Overpowered Thanos in a brief fight, though Thanos was already in pain from wearing the Nano Gauntlet, forcing him to use the Power Stone to defeat her." This one is most likely the big one that justifies the whole 6-C rating, however this is still rather shaky standing. To start, she has two rounds against Thanos. The first round she gets tossed aside easily. Second round she comes back after Thanos puts on the gauntlet, and thus starts experiencing that 5 gigatons, and starts to overpower him. So once again, she starts overpowering an injured, albeit not as injured, Thanos. What's more, this isn't the same peak Thanos that fought Thor, Cap, and Iron Man at the same time. This is post Scarlet Witch almost crushing him to death. At the point that Captain Marvel attacked Thanos, the second time, he had been beaten on by Mjolnir Cap, Stormbreaker + Mjolnir Thor, Scarlet Witch, and he had put on the Nano Gauntlet. In other words, the Thanos she fought towards the end was an injured, and potentially tired, Thanos. Furthermore, she never really does any damage, only over powering him in terms of pushing him down. There's one more thing to actually note about this feat, which I will get into next.
Well, this isn't entirely a downgrade. Captain Marvel deserves Energy Absorption. In the Marvel Studio: Character Encyclopedia Danvers is said to have a "Body able to absorb energy." On top of this, when Captain Marvel grapples the Nano Gauntlet wearing Thanos. Her aura starts to flare up, while the Infinity Stones stop glowing and the power stops flowing into Thanos. Thus I'm proposing that she starts to absorb the energy and get stronger. Supporting evidence is that she doesn't really put a fight before she gets her hands on the gauntlet.
Proposal
What I'm proposing is a few things. Captain Marvel should at the very least lose her "At Least" in the Island Level. There is no way she is more than 10x stronger than Base Thanos. Beyond that, Danvers should be High 7-A+, 6-C with Energy Absorption.
Counter Arguments
Scarlet Witch is At Least 6-C. She not only clearly stomped Thanos, but also had the power to destroy an Infinity Stone, her at least is justified.
Character Encyclopedia isn't used. Fair, but, Danvers still shouldn't scale to peak Thanos. He is barely 6-C and was already injured to the point of calling a bombardment on his troops.
She took a punch from the Power Stone. The Power Stone varies in power, and is specifically said to. Iron Man also tanked a blast from it, so if anything that's High 7-A+.
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