Maybe? Bleach High 6-C Upgrade?

[The_Causality]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._a_Falling_City_(hopefully_the_last)_-_Bleach

The low end seem accepted so what's profile change? I suppose High tier Sternriter (Bazz B, Bambietta ect...), And other characters comparable to Toshiro

 

[Schnee_One]

Wasn't that rejected because it was Hax?

 

[The_Causality]

Wasn't that rejected because it was Hax?

according to the comments below the blog, I do not see anyone suggesting this but you have a good points, I expect more response

 

[Soldier_Blue]

This is going to be really controversial.

 

[LordGinSama]

Wasn't that rejected because it was Hax?

No, you'd be thinking of a different calc ( Lillie I believe. ) this is a AP feat. Yes, Sternritter's should scale to this.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

This would be more acceptable if the 6-C end of my Cero Oscuras calc was accepted. It'd possible to get such results for Lanza del Relampago as well (assuming it did fly over to the horizon).

 

[LordGinSama]

This is going to be really controversial.

I doubt it, we all agreed to using Raven's end instead. This should be pretty straightforward.

 

[The_Causality]

This is going to be really controversial.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

@Dodo

Don't leave us!

 

[Dark649]

I remember Bleach was 6-C via Ulquiorra at one point, but downgraded to 7-A due to that feat was unusable and there was more feats on that caliber, the same could be said for this one unless there are two 6-C legit and usable feats done by characters on that level.

 

[LordGinSama]

The same can't be said for this one, this is for by a EoS Toshiro going all out in order to complete the feat. Plus the Uliqorra calc is also usable, it just depends on what we use between Vaporization pulverization. There's multiple 7-A to 7-A+ calcs just in the Karakura War Arc alone. And this is a feat from multiple arcs later where the characters got exponentially stronger than before. Not to mention that Lillie Barro also has a 6-C / High 6-C feat but it's done by hax. It's also consistent with the other feats from this arc.

 

[Dark649]

Soldier: Remember you made this thread.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Yes. I'll have that settled hopefully by next week. I'm currently re-reading the entire Arrancar arc.

 

[KuuIchigo]

Toshiro did not go all out. It was more or less casually. He did the feat when he was exhausted from being thrashed around by Gerard.

In any case... everyone and their mothers (the relevant ones of course) scales to this. Due to Cang Du, one of the fodder Sternritter, being able to steal and handle Toshiro's Bankai which Yhwach stated that you needed to be sufficiently powerful enough to do. He also trained with it. And the other fodder Sternritter, NaNaNa Najahkoop. He was able to survive Yamamoto's flames (who most defintely scales to this feat) and we know that Reiatsu = AP and Durability. But of course Bazz-B mitigated it. It's just to show that the Sternritter are around each other level minus the Elites (and Gremmy and The Love man and The Wind kid).

On another note (sorry for going off-topic), what do you guys think about this and this? Pre-matured Toshiro being able to block attacks from Shikai Kenpachi and God Sized Gerard?

 

[Soldier_Blue]

@KuuIchigo

In the first image, Zaraki knocks Hitsugaya aside for his own good. We later on see that he did block a blow from Zaraki. However, Zaraki says that if he hadn't held back, he would have destroyed Hitsugaya.

As for the second thing: It doesn't look like he blocked an attack from Gerard. It looks like Gerard just destroyed the building he was on.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

With the new size estimates of the Seireitei and Soul King palace, Lille Barro's normal Heilig Pfeil should yield significantly higher results. You know: Where he busts those fake cities.

 

[KuuIchigo]

First one: Makes sense. Kenpachi wanted a one-on-one fight with Gerard so he just knocked Toshiro away. Maybe we could add that in the reasonings but specify that Kenpachi wasn't serious.

Second one: The building wasn't destroyed as Toshiro was still blocking it. But Gerard still wasn't interested in Toshiro so I guess we could, like above, also add this in the reasonings.

Just to solidify his tier.

 

[The_Causality]

So I guess almost every Sternriter scale to this (someone who scale to the China fooder aKa Iron kang du)

 

[Dr.Fix]

Lol two years after the manga ended and fifteen years since the Seretei was introducd along with Yoruichi's statement and people are still changing their minds about how big it is.

Anyway, Yoruichi's statement is invalid here since the calculator is making too many assumptions about it (How fast they walked, how many and how long breaks they took, yoruichi's cat form, Kubo's actually thinking about how fast a person walks, etc).

Honestly if the powers that be actually change seretei's size AGAIN I have no doubt they will do so again in a couple months from now and then again and again and again.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Honestly if the powers that be actually change seretei's size AGAIN I have no doubt they will do so again in a couple months from now and then again and again and again.

^ I was thinking the same this afternoon.

 

[The_Causality]

Bump

 

[Dr.Fix]

@Soldier

 

[The_Causality]

Bimbo

 

[The_Causality]

Bump

 

[The_Causality]

Sooo i suppose that High 6-C have no problem

@Soldier Blue sama tell me if change can be doing

 

[KazuiK]

This would range for all Sterns and captains and ichigo fullbringer bankai, I believe

 

[LordGinSama]

High 6-C is good to use. Now all we need is the Gremmy feat done and then we'll be done with the controversial shit.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

You know, I've been saying that Fullbring Bankai would be High 6-C

 

[Soldier_Blue]

You know, I've been saying that Fullbring Bankai would be High 6-C

Funny thing: Using anime time frame for the cloud dispersal, FUllbring Shikai Ichigo would be 6-C (lower end of Island level). And using impact calculator for Lanza del Relampago, it is possible to get 6-C (Island level+) results. And if the vaporization end of my Cero calc is accepted, Resurreccion Ulquiorra would be 6-C (Island level).

 

[Soldier_Blue]

@Soldier Blue sama tell me if change can be doing

Have at least two calc group members approved?

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Yay

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Has the Gremmy feat been revised ?

 

[KazuiK]

bump

 

[Malikobama1]

So this would scale to all Sternritter via Cang Du being powerful enough to wield Toshiro's Bankai, Royal Guards, Urahara/Yoruichi/Isshin/Base Aizen, Shunsui/Ukitake/Unohana at least right?

Would any Visoreds scale? And what about Starrk for being able to fight Shunsui?

 

[Dr.Fix]

^Pretty sure the only charaters this would scale to are Zaraki, Gerard and maybe other characters who are already way above that.

That said, the scaling for bleach characters on here is pretty messed up so you might be right. :S

 

[Frantzy12]

Indeed they would scale because of Cang Du.

Bleach scaling is quite simple,all you need is enough reiatsu and Cang Du had enough to wield the bankai and enough to take a strike from Haschwalt.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

I just want to ask, how do we know this isn't an outlier?

 

[LordGinSama]

There are 6-C / High 6-C feats in the Espada Arc. So this wouldn't be an outiler and it's consistent. With Toshiro still being weaker than Gremmy in this form.

 

[Dr.Fix]

Indeed they would scale because of Cang Du.
Bleach scaling is quite simple,all you need is enough reiatsu and Cang Du had enough to wield the bankai and enough to take a strike from Haschwalt.

Its simple enough, but outrageously simplified on here to the point of glaring inaccuracy.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

I just want to ask, how do we know this isn't an outlier?

If my 6-C Ulquiorra calc gets approved, then this can't be dismissed as an outlier. 6-C to High 6-C is a reasonable jump in power.