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Maybe a upgrade for some demons (DMC)

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Well back to work after a long time gone from VS! this is more a re-scaling of some demons since we did have more feats/statements that put them far higher them we are rn, so lets go into them:


Beastheads was able to shook the Human World when awakened on Earth what makes this a solid Low 2-C is because of him also making the laws that govern reality also shake in the process if was just the planet this would never happens. Should probably scale to 2-C too since he is one of the highest rank in Mundus's army


Baul and Modeus the twins that were Sparda's aprendices before he betrayed Mundus, according to Sid says that Modeus powers could make the entire Demon World temble by how strong he was before trowing his sword away, which would make this a 2-C feat for now maybe higher depending on how some revisions go in the future


Furiataurus is able to turn everything to wind and flames should scale to 2-C by being able to destroy the Human and Demon Worlds


Nefasturris is is a demon that use his minions Nefas Vermis to conduct the energy from the Demon World to make not only make him move, but also to empower him with the power of the Demon World's Nexus himself, which in this case Nefasturris would be considered a 2-C demon thanks to that


Agnus is able to create a artificially Demon World for himself, which would be a 2-C feat for him and should scale above Yamato at full power since he never considered her a impressive devil arm in power different from Devil Sword Sparda who he was terrify of her


Nobody a demon who is considered a failure by demons's standarts, including their own masters, was able to skews a dimension with his own powers and abilities which should be a 2-C feat for him


Trish was sended to kill Dante in DMC1 events along with the others Mundus's generals so she should get a 2-C scaling and was also stated to be the best electricity user of DMC verse and thus, should scale above the likes of Alastor, Nevan, Griffon and her Cavaliere Angelo Self. Was consistently portrayed as able to hold her own against massive demonic invasions which should include various Demon Kings levels beings among them. After awakening to humanity Trish was strong enougth to be able to break free of a spell that bond her to Mundus.


Griffon, Phamtom and Shadow should be superior to Baul, Modeus, Malphas and Beastheads since they were worthy of their title as Mundus's generals among the others under the Demon King's command and should be far superior to their shadow counterparts, including Shadow Nightmare since they are confirmed to be not near as strong as their og versions. Phamtom was stated to be able to push through the dimensional barrier separating the Human World and the Demon World which would make this a Immeasurable Lifting Strength feat for him and should scale above the likes of Urizen who needed the Yamato pass through the seal and also all demons up to untill DMC1 Dante and Sparda Pre-Rebellion TIers since none of them was able to break thougth it by the time of untill DMC5 events like Malphas, The Four Great Demons, Furiataurus, Nefasturis and Nobody.


King Cerberus was handpicked by Urizen to protect the Qliphoth fruit, should be able to protect it from others Demon King level beings and thus, should scale to 2-C
 
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Bro the thread is postponed due to general revision going on.

Like chill dawg but don't worry tho! We will have our Donte stronk. Trust.
Well, i guess i was a bit hurry on the 2-A wank XD

Anyway i gonna change them from 2-A to 2-C since i got my question answered anyway in the server!

Link the thread
Well, Sonic ninja'd me with answer
 
Anyway since I'm here, lemme look what my boy brought in here.

Well back to work after a long time gone from VS! this is more a re-scaling of some demons since we did have more feats/statements that put them far higher them we are rn, so lets go into them:

It's nice to see you back!

Beastheads was able to shook the Human World when awakened on Earth what makes this a solid Low 2-C is because of him also making the laws that govern reality also shake in the process if was just the planet this would never happens. Should probably scale to 2-C too since he is one of the highest rank in Mundus's army

Seems fair enough.

Baul and Modeus the twins that were Sparda's aprendices before he betrayed Mundus, according to Sid says that Modeus powers could make the entire Demon World temble by how strong he was before trowing his sword away, which would make this a 2-C feat for now maybe higher depending on how some revisions go in the future

I wonder if it is talking from literal or figurative sense... Also your scan is not working but I know where it is coming from. You should fix it asap.

Furiataurus is able to turn everything to wind and flames should scale to 2-C by being able to destroy the Human and Demon Worlds

That's figurative ngl.

Nefasturris is is a demon that use his minions Nefas Vermis to conduct the energy from the Demon World to make not only make him move, but also to empower him with the power of the Demon World's Nexus himself, which in this case Nefasturris would be considered a 2-C demon thanks to that

It is just him receiving empowerment from the underworld... How's that 2C?

Agnus is able to create a artificially Demon World for himself, which would be a 2-C feat for him and should scale above Yamato at full power since he never considered her a impressive devil arm in power different from Devil Sword Sparda who he was terrify of her

Interesting... Yeah this could probably work out ig.

Nobody a demon who is considered a failure by demons's standarts, including their own masters, was able to skews a dimension with his own powers and abilities which should be a 2-C feat for him

Another interesting stuff... I'm not sure but I do think this should scale to their ability specifics?

Trish was sended to kill Dante in DMC1 events along with the others Mundus's generals so she should get a 2-C scaling and was also stated to be the best electricity user of DMC verse and thus, should scale above the likes of Alastor, Nevan, Griffon and her Cavaliere Angelo Self. Was consistently portrayed as able to hold her own against massive demonic invasions which should include various Demon Kings levels beings among them. After awakening to humanity Trish was strong enougth to be able to break free of a spell that bond her to Mundus.

Okay this one makes sense actually, because it is proven that human's positive emotions gives them power as shown in this scan which is the same case with Sparda who woke to justice and soloed the entire Demon World on his own as we all know so nice catch there.

Griffon, Phamtom and Shadow should be superior to Baul, Modeus, Malphas and Beastheads since they were worthy of their title as Mundus's generals among the others under the Demon King's command and should be far superior to their shadow counterparts, including Shadow Nightmare since they are confirmed to be not near as strong as their og versions. Phamtom was stated to be able to push through the dimensional barrier separating the Human World and the Demon World which would make this a Immeasurable Lifting Strength feat for him and should scale above the likes of Urizen who needed the Yamato pass through the seal and also all demons up to untill DMC1 Dante and Sparda Pre-Rebellion TIers since none of them was able to break thougth it by the time of untill DMC5 events like Malphas, The Four Great Demons, Furiataurus, Nefasturis and Nobody.

Problem with pushing through the dimensional wall is it later states that the barrier was weakened which allowed him to push through so I'm not sure... Other stuff is fine however it seems.

King Cerberus was handpicked by Urizen to protect the Qliphoth fruit, should be able to protect it from others Demon King level beings and thus, should scale to 2-C

Makes sense.
 
Anyway since I'm here, lemme look what my boy brought in here.



It's nice to see you back!
Yo thanks! Nice to see you are still working on DMC too!
I wonder if it is talking from literal or figurative sense... Also your scan is not working but I know where it is coming from. You should fix it asap.
Really? Strange is working form me, well, gonna change just in case them!

Well, Modeus is a hell lord and was Sparda's apprentice so i won't' discard completely the ideia of being true! He is equal of his brother Baul who is waiting for a worthy challenge for a long time and still did not anybody worth of it untill he decide to wait for Sparda come back but he never did, so he found Dante was the only being worth of his time and who was strong enougth to macth Sparda as stated by him in the anime!
That's figurative ngl.
Are you sure? They said in the scan that you need someone like on Dante level to be able to beat him, should that count?
It is just him receiving empowerment from the underworld... How's that 2C?
Well, they said he received power from the depths of the DW himself (Demon World's Nexus?) pretty sure receiving power from it would grant a huge power up since as show in novel 2 as the close you get to the DWN, the close you are from being paralized and unable to continue going further inside there! Unless you are a very powerfull Demon King level being of course.
Another interesting stuff... I'm not sure but I do think this should scale to their ability specifics?
Well, we do accept AP=Hax rn, so i think it would count as a AP feat for him because of the stronger you are the stronger you abilities are too
Okay this one makes sense actually, because it is proven that human's positive emotions gives them power as shown in this scan which is the same case with Sparda who woke to justice and soloed the entire Demon World on his own as we all know so nice catch there.
Thanks! And yeah humans emotions are op, should have included in my op ngl
Problem with pushing through the dimensional wall is it later states that the barrier was weakened which allowed him to push through so I'm not sure... Other stuff is fine however it seems.
Well, yeah but since even more them 20 years later in DMC5 events, the seal was far weaker them in DMC1 events, demons was still unable to pass thougth it like Malphas, The Four Great Demons, the Shadows versions of Mundus's generals, including Shadow Nightmare and Nobody are not unable to pass though it only when the barrier was down as stated in Nico's profile in Sin section!

So i think it would still count as a feat for Phamtom, but a weaker one of course. Only True Forms Mundus, Argosax, Abigail, Sparda and everibody that scale comparable or above them get the feat as breaking the seal as it full potential!
 
Yo thanks! Nice to see you are still working on DMC too!

Always a pleasure to help the squad 🗿

Really? Strange is working form me, well, gonna change just in case them!

This one is working, dunno why it didn't back then but meh.

Well, Modeus is a hell lord and was Sparda's apprentice so i won't' discard completely the ideia of being true! He is equal of his brother Baul who is waiting for a worthy challenge for a long time and still did not anybody worth of it untill he decide to wait for Sparda come back but he never did, so he found Dante was the only being worth of his time and who was strong enougth to macth Sparda as stated by him in the anime!

Taking another look... The shaking sentence feel more like a display of feat but it can also be taken as figurative speech so I'm not sure... I think it can act as a supporting evidence I suppose?

Are you sure? They said in the scan that you need someone like on Dante level to be able to beat him, should that count?

I can tell by just looking at the manner of speaking here... It is not literally him consuming everything in flame and shit; it's just a figurative speech.

Well, they said he received power from the depths of the DW himself (Demon World's Nexus?) pretty sure receiving power from it would grant a huge power up since as show in novel 2 as the close you get to the DWN, the close you are from being paralized and unable to continue going further inside there! Unless you are a very powerfull Demon King level being of course.

Nah that's not how it works... He can receive the power from Demon World to fuel himself but that doesn't mean he would be 2C just like that... You need more solid evidence for this one.

Well, we do accept AP=Hax rn, so i think it would count as a AP feat for him because of the stronger you are the stronger you abilities are too

Yeah but it's quite speculative at the same time... The safest bet here is to make it ability specific.

Thanks! And yeah humans emotions are op, should have included in my op ngl

Np.

Well, yeah but since even more them 20 years later in DMC5 events, the seal was far weaker them in DMC1 events, demons was still unable to pass thougth it like Malphas, The Four Great Demons, the Shadows versions of Mundus's generals, including Shadow Nightmare and Nobody are not unable to pass though it only when the barrier was down as stated in Nico's profile in Sin section!
So i think it would still count as a feat for Phamtom, but a weaker one of course. Only True Forms Mundus, Argosax, Abigail, Sparda and everibody that scale comparable or above them get the feat as breaking the seal as it full potential!

I'm honestly not sure about this one... At the same time the barrier is strong enough to keep two worlds apart with one of them bring infinite in comparison to it, you probably could still scale to it but I'm kind of conflicted here. What do you think? @Huesito88
 
Trish was sended to kill Dante in DMC1 events along with the others Mundus's generals so she should get a 2-C scaling and was also stated to be the best electricity user of DMC verse and thus, should scale above the likes of Alastor, Nevan, Griffon and her Cavaliere Angelo Self. Was consistently portrayed as able to hold her own against massive demonic invasions which should include various Demon Kings levels beings among them. After awakening to humanity Trish was strong enougth to be able to break free of a spell that bond her to Mundus.
This is contradicted by dmc5, she gets bodied by griffon who is weakened go shit
Her cavaliere Angelo being included in the statamamebt doesn't make sense cuz it's electricity powers comes from Trish.

Mundus has no reason fo use strong stuff on someone who gets bodied by generals, her scaling to dmc1 dante doesn't work unless you say mundus immensely underestimated that version of dante, dmc3 vergil can kill dmc3 mumdus who is above all lf his generals


Griffon, Phamtom and Shadow should be superior to Baul, Modeus, Malphas and Beastheads since they were worthy of their title as Mundus's generals among the others under the Demon King's command and should be far superior to their shadow counterparts, including Shadow Nightmare since they are confirmed to be not near as strong as their og versions. Phamtom was stated to be able to push through the dimensional barrier separating the Human World and the Demon World which would make this a Immeasurable Lifting Strength feat for him and should scale above the likes of Urizen who needed the Yamato pass through the seal and also all demons up to untill DMC1 Dante and Sparda Pre-Rebellion TIers since none of them was able to break thougth it by the time of untill DMC5 events like Malphas, The Four Great Demons, Furiataurus, Nefasturis and Nobody
The Baul and modeus we seen are from sparda army so doesn't really matter, phantom suddenly. Ulscaling urizen is just, no? Dante seal powers are stronger than spardas to begin and spardas is what's pushed in dmc1
King Cerberus was handpicked by Urizen to protect the Qliphoth fruit, should be able to protect it from others Demon King level beings and thus, should scale to 2-C
Then why he wasn't strong enough to become one then? You can just kill the current Demon king to become the new one
 
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