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MASSIVE Tekken Downgrades

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Stronger my ass, Paul before tekken 4 had no trouble with Kuma, yet after tekken 4 we are told he loses to him, let alone in a rematch the fight made him too exhausted to continue, meanwhile his prime is counted as a match for Kazuya and technically won the 3rd tournament in the games

No shit sherlock

They already scale, whether you like it or not, Jack robots were always fodder to Mishimas and comparable characters, aka high tiers and top tiers scale to then and above respectively
1. It's much more reasonable to assume that Kuma became stronger than Paul over time rather than assume that Paul got significantly weaker.

Especially without any hard evidence to support the assertion that Paul got weaker.

2. Tekken 2 Mishima's don't scale to Tekken 6 Jack's.

Jack models have gotten stronger over time.
 
Concrete scaling is the way to go in my opinion.
It is, but it is not the only one way. And well, Panda/Kuma scaling is pretty much concrete cause if they sparred they've fought. Heihachi isn't dumb to make bears who are not even as nearly as strong as other combatants to make them bodyguards.
Assuming that I've been talking about DC this entire time is silly.
Considering that you're trying to say that Panda doesn't scales to feat because Jack-6 did it and Panda didn't, yeah you pretty much have been, no offence.
 
1. Bryan and Feng are mid tiers as well.
Just stop...your way of tiering is horrible af, those two arent mid tiers
2. Who else have the bears fought that justifies them scaling to Jack-6?
Based on what we assume Jack 6 is above bears? A sparring partner has relevance, means the character is worth something, lwt alone by the one who trains them

Panda is also a bodyguard to Xiaoyu, same character that beat Nina in the anime and fought Alisa evenly in the movie, Alisa beat a Jack 6, if Panda was as weak as you imply, she wouldnt be for her a bodyguard to begin with, let alone the other points ollegator and me brought up
 
Just stop...your way of tiering is horrible af, those two arent mid tiers

Based on what we assume Jack 6 is above bears? A sparring partner has relevance, means the character is worth something, lwt alone by the one who trains them

Panda is also a bodyguard to Xiaoyu, same character that beat Nina in the anime and fought Alisa evenly in the movie, Alisa beat a Jack 6, if Panda was as weak as you imply, she wouldnt be for her a bodyguard to begin with, let alone the other points ollegator and me brought up
Jacks are often portrayed as robots who can pretty much beaten by a lot of characters without a big problem anyway in a later chapters.

Like, I won't be surprised at all if in Tekken 8 character will be fodderizing Jack-7s.
 
The fact that Jack-6 has much better feats than the bears should be enough to justify Jack-6 scaling above them.
By this logic no character in dragon ball super besides Beerus and Goku scale to them just cuz they got no feats like their uni punching one, shitty logic as always
 
It is, but it is not the only one way. And well, Panda/Kuma scaling is pretty much concrete cause if they sparred they've fought. Heihachi isn't dumb to make bears who are not even as nearly as strong as other combatants to make them bodyguards.

Considering that you're trying to say that Panda doesn't scales to feat because Jack-6 did it and Panda didn't, yeah you pretty much have been, no offence.
1. The bears being comparable to other combatants doesn't mean they scale to Heihachi though.

2. I didn't say that.

I said that Jack-6 had superior feats to the bears.
 
1. The bears being comparable to other combatants doesn't mean they scale to Heihachi though.
Why would Heihachi need a protection from these bears? If those other combatants weren't a trouble then Heihachi just would've one shot them anyway and if Bears were worthless than he doesn't needs any use in them. The reasoning here is flawed and has no basics.
2. I didn't say that.

I said that Jack-6 had superior feats to the bears.
You just did at this very moment.
 
1. It's much more reasonable to assume that Kuma became stronger than Paul over time rather than assume that Paul got significantly weaker.

Especially without any hard evidence to support the assertion that Paul got weaker.
We literally see Paul end up on streets and not even train anymore till he got in the 4th tournament to prove himself, only to lose to his current rival, let alone even after he trains again, tekken 6 still states he was too tired to continue from their fight, Prime Paul didnt even acknowledge bears as a big deal, its common knowledge Prime Paul > Current Paul
2. Tekken 2 Mishima's don't scale to Tekken 6 Jack's.
Yes they do, by the fact Young Heihachi is displayed to be in the league with those like Feng, which Paul faces off against
Jack models have gotten stronger over time.
And are still counted as fodder to high tiers and top tiers (mishimas), Jack never were ever above Mishimas
 
Just stop...your way of tiering is horrible af, those two arent mid tiers

Based on what we assume Jack 6 is above bears? A sparring partner has relevance, means the character is worth something, lwt alone by the one who trains them

Panda is also a bodyguard to Xiaoyu, same character that beat Nina in the anime and fought Alisa evenly in the movie, Alisa beat a Jack 6, if Panda was as weak as you imply, she wouldnt be for her a bodyguard to begin with, let alone the other points ollegator and me brought up
By this logic no character in dragon ball super besides Beerus and Goku scale to them just cuz they got no feats like their uni punching one, shitty logic as always
1. They are definitely mid tiers.

2. Sparring partners aren't concrete enough evidence to justify Tier 6 scaling.

The Tekken anime isn't canon to the games so any scaling in them is irrelevant.

You should know that bro.

Alisa didn't beat that Jack-6 model.

She temporarily knocked Jack-6 down and then it got back up to then get beaten by Lars in 1 punch.

3. Power-scaling is a case by case thing.

Plenty of characters have fought on par with a serious SSB Goku so they should scale just fine.
 
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Why would Heihachi need a protection from these bears? If those other combatants weren't a trouble then Heihachi just would've one shot them anyway and if Bears were worthless than he doesn't needs any use in them. The reasoning here is flawed and has no basics.

You just did at this very moment.
1. By this logic Heihachi needs protection from every single combatant in every single Tekken tournament since Tekken 2.

Which is absurd.

2. Saying that Jack-6 has better feats isn't the same thing as saying that Panda doesn't scale to Jack-6 because he performed a better feat.

I'm simply using the fact that Jack-6 has better feats to support the idea that he scales above the bears.
 
1. They are definitely mid tiers.
Who they? Nina? Same Nina who directly fought Heihachi, keep in mind. Alisa? Same Alisa that destroys Jacks in story. Xiaoyu? Same girl who beated both Alisa and Nina.
2. Sparring partners are concrete enough evidence to justify Tier 6 scaling.
See? you said it yourself.
The Tekken anime isn't canon to the games so any scaling in them is irrelevant.

You should know that bro.
Was confirmed as canon by its creator.
Alisa didn't beat that Jack-6 model.

She temporarily knocked Jack-6 down and then it got back up to then get beaten by Lars in 1 punch.
And knocking down isn't something that is not direct? Like she wouldn't have done damage at all if she wasn't as strong as Jack-6.
1. By this logic Heihachi needs protection from every single combatant in every single Tekken tournament since Tekken 2.

Which is absurd.
And he had/s. Kuma 1 and Mishima Zaibatsu army in T1-2. As well as Ganryu in Tekken 3 and again, same army.
2. Saying that Jack-6 has better feats isn't the same thing as saying that Panda doesn't scale to Jack-6 because he performed a better feat.

I'm simply using the fact that Jack-6 has better feats to support the idea that he scales above the bears.
Jack-6 has a better feat not better feats. And again, to do so you're comparing each's destructive capacity.
 
We literally see Paul end up on streets and not even train anymore till he got in the 4th tournament to prove himself, only to lose to his current rival, let alone even after he trains again, tekken 6 still states he was too tired to continue from their fight, Prime Paul didnt even acknowledge bears as a big deal, its common knowledge Prime Paul > Current Paul

Yes they do, by the fact Young Heihachi is displayed to be in the league with those like Feng, which Paul faces off against

And are still counted as fodder to high tiers and top tiers (mishimas), Jack never were ever above Mishimas
1. When was it stated that Paul stopped training?

2. No they don't.

Young Heihachi fighting Feng Wei makes no sense timeline wise and even if he did Feng Wei is mid tier at best.

3. Tekken 2 characters don't scale to Tekken 6 characters.

That's a time gap of over 20 years.

It's unreasonable to scale them.
 
You get on my nerves again with your ******* surface level knowledge
1. They are definitely mid tiers.
No they arent, mid tiers like Alisa or human/demon Jinpachi, we are explicitely told compared to Mishimas they are match to their power, high tiers either scale to a degree to Mishimas by being told or shown as such, let alone, that same Jinpachi in tekken 5 is as well told as being no match to old Heihachi, meanwhile against Young Heihachi he does actually something to him by comparison
2. Sparring partners are concrete enough evidence to justify Tier 6 scaling.
Glad you agree, as you should be actually
The Tekken anime isn't canon to the games so any scaling in them is irrelevant.

You should know that bro.
You should you clearly have no idea wtf you talking, roundtable for fighting devs michael murray says the anime its kind of a prequel to tekken 3 and were involved in it, when they shown the 1st trailer in that stream

Harada and Murray say in an interview stuff original by anime they wanna use as canon setting, let alone it tells most of the game story in the form of the anime, it is canon, but obviously why would you know such things, when you ARENT even knowledgable on the series besides surface level info
Alisa didn't beat that Jack-6 model.

She temporarily knocked Jack-6 down and then it got back up to then get beaten by Lars in 1 punch.
You have eye problems too, she kicks him, engages him in up close and kills it moments after, with another Jack 6 coming to get grabbed by Lars and do his back throw move
3. Power-scaling is a case by case thing.

Plenty of characters have fought on par with a serious SSB Goku so they should scale just fine.
No dude, cuz by your logic we cant scale anyone besides Beerus to him, they have no uni feats like them, even tho they scale, same goes to tekken by this logic of yours, know the scaling then talk
 
Who they? Nina? Same Nina who directly fought Heihachi, keep in mind. Alisa? Same Alisa that destroys Jacks in story. Xiaoyu? Same girl who beated both Alisa and Nina.

See? you said it yourself.

Was confirmed as canon by its creator.

And knocking down isn't something that is not direct? Like she wouldn't have done damage at all if she wasn't as strong as Jack-6.

And he had/s. Kuma 1 and Mishima Zaibatsu army in T1-2. As well as Ganryu in Tekken 3 and again, same army.

Jack-6 has a better feat not better feats. And again, to do so you're comparing each's destructive capacity.
1. Heihachi easily defeated Nina.

Nina doesn't scale to him.

Alisa never defeated Jack-6.

2. Where did Harada directly state that Tekken Bloodline is canon?

3. No.

Knocking down isn't sufficient for scaling.

4. I'm not following you?

5. Nope.

He has better feats.

Jack-6 has a DC and speed feat in his ending.

Jack-6 having better feats is being used to support the idea that he scales above the bears.
 
1. When was it stated that Paul stopped training?

It is shown that he abandoned his dojo, so he and Law at that point are more busy with debts rather than training people.
2. No they don't.

Young Heihachi fighting Feng Wei makes no sense timeline wise and even if he did Feng Wei is mid tier at best.
The fact that Feng fights Young Heihachi alone is a proof that Feng isn't a mid tier at this point. And TT2 is confirmed as canon in T7
That's a time gap of over 20 years.

It's unreasonable to scale them.
Thing is not just about 20 year gap, thing is also about the fact that Jacks are often narratively fodders in later chapters. If Jack 6 was considered as strong in Tekken 6, he turns into a fodder in Tekken 7, if Jack 4 was strong in T4 events they again, turn into a fodders in Tekken 5. Jacks are pretty much fodders to characters at later points of the game, that thing is consistent on a narrative level.
 
1. Heihachi easily defeated Nina.

Nina doesn't scale to him.

Alisa never defeated Jack-6.
Again, if it was easy he would've done it in one hit, and he didn't

So she does.

She did
2. Where did Harada directly state that Tekken Bloodline is canon?
Literally in a video I showed as well as what Dark said
3. No.

Knocking down isn't sufficient for scaling.
Try to knock down a guy who's over thousands of times stronger than you I dare you.
4. I'm not following you?
What's so hard here? Heihachi in plot had and has defense in Tekken story. You can't just approach and fight him.
5. Nope.

He has better feats.

Jack-6 has a DC and speed feat in his ending.

Jack-6 having better feats is being used to support the idea that he scales above the bears.
You're not even trying to hide that you do in fact comparing their DC at that point.
 
You get on my nerves again with your ******* surface level knowledge

No they arent, mid tiers like Alisa or human/demon Jinpachi, we are explicitely told compared to Mishimas they are match to their power, high tiers either scale to a degree to Mishimas by being told or shown as such, let alone, that same Jinpachi in tekken 5 is as well told as being no match to old Heihachi, meanwhile against Young Heihachi he does actually something to him by comparison

Glad you agree, as you should be actually

You should you clearly have no idea wtf you talking, roundtable for fighting devs michael murray says the anime its kind of a prequel to tekken 3 and were involved in it, when they shown the 1st trailer in that stream

Harada and Murray say in an interview stuff original by anime they wanna use as canon setting, let alone it tells most of the game story in the form of the anime, it is canon, but obviously why would you know such things, when you ARENT even knowledgable on the series besides surface level info

You have eye problems too, she kicks him, engages him in up close and kills it moments after, with another Jack 6 coming to get grabbed by Lars and do his back throw move

No dude, cuz by your logic we cant scale anyone besides Beerus to him, they have no uni feats like them, even tho they scale, same goes to tekken by this logic of yours, know the scaling then talk
1. I can't quite decipher what you're saying here.

2. I misspoke.

3. Care to provide a link?

4.. That's not what happened.

There was only 1 Jack-6 in that room.

She didn't kill it.

Jack-6 got back up after Alisa's assault and then it got 1 shot by Lars.

6. Your analysis of my logic is flawed.

Going toe to toe with a serious SSB Goku is more than enough to justify Tier 3 scaling.
 
Again, if it was easy he would've done it in one hit, and he didn't

So she does.

She did

Literally in a video I showed as well as what Dark said

Try to knock down a guy who's over thousands of times stronger than you I dare you.

What's so hard here? Heihachi in plot had and has defense in Tekken story. You can't just approach and fight him.

You're not even trying to hide that you do in fact comparing their DC at that point.
1. Heihachi wasn't trying to hurt Nina.

He needed her as an assistant.

Nina doesn't scale to Heihachi.

Alisa didn't beat Jack-6.

2. Harada didn't directly state that Tekken Bloodline is canon in the video you linked.

3. I don't have super strength.

4. I'm only talking about DC in so far as to support the idea that Jack-6 is above the bears.
 
There was only 1 Jack-6 in that room.

She didn't kill it.

Jack-6 got back up after Alisa's assault and then it got 1 shot by Lars.
Funny that you're trying to dismiss that one feat in a scene while also ignoring that Alisa also casually beats up Jacks during story mode outside of cutscenes.
 
1. When was it stated that Paul stopped training?
Show where in your headcanon skull you got we are said he trains anywhere there, after tekken 3 Paul insisted he was the champion last time, since Jin beat Ogre last form of which he was unaware of, people were getting sick of him and dojo runs out of business, we see him literally end on streets like a homeless person in the story of the character, next tournament is announced and he joins like that to prove it, tell me from where is implied he trained anymore, loses to Kuma, then later when we are specifically told he trains he still had it rough with Kuma he had to give up
2. No they don't.

Young Heihachi fighting Feng Wei makes no sense timeline wise and even if he did Feng Wei is mid tier at best.
Tag 2 is fair use, if your only problem is you not liking it, lore and feats dont care of your feelings

And funny how you ignore the other things tjat further shows where Young Heihachi stands up and those comparable, they aint mid tiers normie
3. Tekken 2 characters don't scale to Tekken 6 characters.

That's a time gap of over 20 years.
Already debunked previously a couple times, get better arguments besides your surface level info
 

It is shown that he abandoned his dojo, so he and Law at that point are more busy with debts rather than training people.

The fact that Feng fights Young Heihachi alone is a proof that Feng isn't a mid tier at this point. And TT2 is confirmed as canon in T7

Thing is not just about 20 year gap, thing is also about the fact that Jacks are often narratively fodders in later chapters. If Jack 6 was considered as strong in Tekken 6, he turns into a fodder in Tekken 7, if Jack 4 was strong in T4 events they again, turn into a fodders in Tekken 5. Jacks are pretty much fodders to characters at later points of the game, that thing is consistent on a narrative level.

1. It's stated that Paul's dojo went out of business due to lack of people.

Not that he abandoned it.

Nothing in your video suggests that Paul stopped training.

2. Feng fighting Young Heihachi doesn't make Feng a high tier.

3. Jack's aren't considered fodders to every single character in the games.
 
Show where in your headcanon skull you got we are said he trains anywhere there, after tekken 3 Paul insisted he was the champion last time, since Jin beat Ogre last form of which he was unaware of, people were getting sick of him and dojo runs out of business, we see him literally end on streets like a homeless person in the story of the character, next tournament is announced and he joins like that to prove it, tell me from where is implied he trained anymore, loses to Kuma, then later when we are specifically told he trains he still had it rough with Kuma he had to give up

Tag 2 is fair use, if your only problem is you not liking it, lore and feats dont care of your feelings

And funny how you ignore the other things tjat further shows where Young Heihachi stands up and those comparable, they aint mid tiers normie

Already debunked previously a couple times, get better arguments besides your surface level info
1. You stated that Paul stopped training so the burden of proof is on you to support that claim.

2. Tag 2 has timeline inconsistencies.

It's only partially canon.

3. They are mid tiers.

4. Nothing was debunked.
 
1. I can't quite decipher what you're saying here.
Aka you dont know the verse therefore your right to debate on the scaling where each is tiered doesnt exist, multiple people here and outside the thread said i know this series better then anyone, your opinion with "no" responses means 0
2. I misspoke.
The unconsciousness knows the truth deep inside unlike you normally
3. Care to provide a link?
I will go get them soon
4.. That's not what happened.
You are legit blind then
6. Your analysis of my logic is flawed.

Going toe to toe with a serious SSB Goku is more than enough to justify Tier 3 scaling.
No, its exactly how it goes by your 💩 logic, scaling proves the characters get the rating, yet you deny it just cuz "has shown a better feat" i cant even begin to describe how pathetically laughable this is, when bears have scaling to show that they scale above, yet you go against it by your surface level info, a character having a better feat then someone means nothing unless the power scaling further suggests they dont scale
 
1. Heihachi wasn't trying to hurt Nina.

He needed her as an assistant.

Nina doesn't scale to Heihachi.

Alisa didn't beat Jack-6.
He previously had an other assistant back in anime. He's from a company that has enough money to do WW3, it's no big deal to hire an other assistant (or assassin or maybe even make one cause Mishima Zaibatsu also can and did that pretty frequently). And if he does indeed needs Nina then Nina has a value, Nina is far more stronger than normal people for his defense.
At what other point in the scenario campaign does Alisa fight Jack-6's?

Like this level happens seconds after that cutscene how do you miss that?
2. Harada didn't directly state that Tekken Bloodline is canon in the video you linked.
And we need direct statement? Anime doesn't contradicts and for a most parts only supports Tekken lore, why it won't be canon when it's heavily implied to be?
3. I don't have super strength.
And by your implication nor does Alisa. But she does have enough to take Jack down
4. I'm only talking about DC in so far as to support the idea that Jack-6 is above the bears.
Aka, literally comparing them in DC.
1. It's stated that Paul's dojo went out of business due to lack of people.

Not that he abandoned it.

Nothing in your video suggests that Paul stopped training.
He lost basically everything, including dojo where he was training. It'll take a lot of assumptions that Paul with no motivation to go on left would actually train.
2. Feng fighting Young Heihachi doesn't make Feng a high tier.
Oh so Heihachi would make himseда young to make himself weaker? Don't see logic here.
3. Jack's aren't considered fodders to every single character in the games.
Depends. In later parts earlier models are.
Tag 2 has timeline inconsistencies.

It's only partially canon.
Such as...? Don't stop there.
 
At this point i will just request you to get banned from tekken talks, i have no patience with a normie that is hard headed

Imagine even admitting you dont know as much asthe other yet still have audacity to debate
 
Aka you dont know the verse therefore your right to debate on the scaling where each is tiered doesnt exist, multiple people here and outside the thread said i know this series better then anyone, your opinion with "no" responses means 0

The unconsciousness knows the truth deep inside unlike you normally

I will go get them soon

You are legit blind then

No, its exactly how it goes by your 💩 logic, scaling proves the characters get the rating, yet you deny it just cuz "has shown a better feat" i cant even begin to describe how pathetically laughable this is, when bears have scaling to show that they scale above, yet you go against it by your surface level info, a character having a better feat then someone means nothing unless the power scaling further suggests they dont scale
1. Meh.

2. Heh.

3. Good to know.

4. I'm definitely not blind.

5. I'm not basing my scaling entirely on feats.
 
1. You stated that Paul stopped training so the burden of proof is on you to support that claim.
No its not and you were already shown he has no training in tekken 4, tekken 5 literally tells us he actually trains or is shown visually like with tekken 1, why we assume he did when the character gone through rough times with no motivation, the tournament is what got him fired up again
2. Tag 2 has timeline inconsistencies.

It's only partially canon.
At this point, shut up, simply shut up
3. They are mid tiers.
No they arent, either you bring evidence as to why or zip it
4. Nothing was debunked.
Here goes the denial attitude again
 
He previously had an other assistant back in anime. He's from a company that has enough money to do WW3, it's no big deal to hire an other assistant (or assassin or maybe even make one cause Mishima Zaibatsu also can and did that pretty frequently). And if he does indeed needs Nina then Nina has a value, Nina is far more stronger than normal people for his defense.


Like this level happens seconds after that cutscene how do you miss that?

And we need direct statement? Anime doesn't contradicts and for a most parts only supports Tekken lore, why it won't be canon when it's heavily implied to be?

And by your implication nor does Alisa. But she does have enough to take Jack down

Aka, literally comparing them in DC.

He lost basically everything, including dojo where he was training. It'll take a lot of assumptions that Paul with no motivation to go on left would actually train.

Oh so Heihachi would make himseда young to make himself weaker? Don't see logic here.

Depends. In later parts earlier models are.

Such as...? Don't stop there.

1. Heihachi isn't going to be able to find an assistant that knows the ins and outs of the Mishima Zaibatsu on short notice.

He has no reason to injure Nina.

2. Can you tell me the timestamp?

3. It's best to get a direct statement or reference of Tekken Bloodline's canonical nature rather than assume it's canon.

4. You need some form of concrete proof to prove that Paul stopped training.

5. That's not true.

6. For example, Jinpachi is alive in Tag 2 even though he disintegrated in Tekken 5.
 
No its not and you were already shown he has no training in tekken 4, tekken 5 literally tells us he actually trains or is shown visually like with tekken 1, why we assume he did when the character gone through rough times with no motivation, the tournament is what got him fired up again

At this point, shut up, simply shut up

No they arent, either you bring evidence as to why or zip it

Here goes the denial attitude again
1. No evidence that Paul stopped training.

2. No argument.

3. You're the only person in denial here.
 
1. Heihachi isn't going to be able to find an assistant that knows the ins and outs of the Mishima Zaibatsu on short notice.

He has no reason to injure Nina.
Nina wasnt taken by knowing things, but by her capabilitaties as a fighter and skills, Heihachi has no need for people that arent capable of doing their job
3. It's best to get a direct statement or reference of Tekken Bloodline's canonical nature rather than assume it's canon.
Word of god has it stated as canonical, as well as two other details that explains stuff from the games, dont go throw out whats canon and not out of your ass

- 2:04:44

- 4:55

What i talked about earlier
4. You need some form of concrete proof to prove that Paul stopped training.
You are denying it and keep being stubborn
6. For example, Jinpachi is alive in Tag 2 even though he disintegrated in Tekken 5.
Tag 2 has no story therefore no such thing as Jinpachi being alive goes against the canon and what ifs are fair game, which was already talked about way back
 
1. Heihachi isn't going to be able to find an assistant that knows the ins and outs of the Mishima Zaibatsu on short notice.

He has no reason to injure Nina.
He has, he's taking Mishima Zaibatsu back and for that he needs to beat the shit out of its current leader who technically was Nina while Jin was in desert.
2. Can you tell me the timestamp?
I literally time stamped the video
3. It's best to get a direct statement or reference of Tekken Bloodline's canonical nature rather than assume it's canon.
Idek what are you asking here.
4. You need some form of concrete proof to prove that Paul stopped training.
You need some form of concrete proof to prove that Paul trained. Evidence tells he did not. Show not assume.
5. That's not true.
It is true. You're lying if you're trying to say it's not.
6. For example, Jinpachi is alive in Tag 2 even though he disintegrated in Tekken 5.
And that's only like, 1 contradiction and even then. Like Dark said earlier what ifs is a fair game for Tekken.
Like I said earlier I'm talking about DC to support the scaling.
Or in other words comparing them in DC, there's nothing else you doing.
 
1. No evidence that Paul stopped training.
Evidence was given you are just a hard headed normie
2. No argument.
You have no argument and had none in this whole thread, left and right you get debunked and proven unfit to run your mouth in the verse
3. You're the only person in denial here.
Uno card reply how original, you are simply a horrible debater and in denial at it too, get my knowledge then we talking, you have 0 rights to argue the verse when you dont know at least enough to argue back properly, let alone vs debating terms and knowledge to begin with
 
Nina wasnt taken by knowing things, but by her capabilitaties as a fighter and skills, Heihachi has no need for people that arent capable of doing their job

Word of god has it stated as canonical, as well as two other details that explains stuff from the games, dont go throw out whats canon and not out of your ass

- 2:04:44

- 4:55

What i talked about earlier

You are denying it and keep being stubborn

Tag 2 has no story therefore no such thing as Jinpachi being alive goes against the canon and what ifs are fair game, which was already talked about way back

Evidence was given you are just a hard headed normie

You have no argument and had none in this whole thread, left and right you get debunked and proven unfit to run your mouth in the verse

Uno card reply how original, you are simply a horrible debater and in denial at it too, get my knowledge then we talking, you have 0 rights to argue the verse when you dont know at least enough to argue back properly, let alone vs debating terms and knowledge to begin with
1. Heihachi definitely needed Nina for more than just her fighting ability.

2. Huh.

I guess Tekken Bloodline is canon.

I didn't know that until now.

3. I'm not being stubborn.

I just need hard evidence that Paul stopped training.

4. Tag 2 definitely has a story.

Unless you're trying to say that any fighting game without a story mode also doesn't have a story.
 
He has, he's taking Mishima Zaibatsu back and for that he needs to beat the shit out of its current leader who technically was Nina while Jin was in desert.

I literally time stamped the video

Idek what are you asking here.

You need some form of concrete proof to prove that Paul trained. Evidence tells he did not. Show not assume.

It is true. You're lying if you're trying to say it's not.

And that's only like, 1 contradiction and even then. Like Dark said earlier what ifs is a fair game for Tekken.

Or in other words comparing them in DC, there's nothing else you doing.
1. I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

2. The video doesn't work on my phone.

3. You still haven't provided any solid evidence that Paul stopped training.

4. It's definitely true.

5. It's a massive contradiction that breaks the story.
 
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