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It sucks when you half to downgrade your favorite characters. Anyway, let's get this over with. Damn environmental destruction and everything it stands for!!!
Environmental Destruction
So I was discussing the of the feats off site and apparently the current one's we use aren't usable for scaling the characters reliable.
This is due to Environmental Destruction which makes it so we can't simply just scale things like storm feats, to characters standard statistics such as normal Attack Potency and Striking Strength without sufficient evidence it scales that way.
I decided to go over the current feats again to see if they could scale to the characters statistics all around and sadly, they don't.
Soul Shredder's Planetary Storm
This feat is already treated as environmental destruction but still was used as supporting evidence for Low 6-B scaling. In the episode "Fright Night", the Fright Knight's sword, the Soul Shredder created an ecto storm in the sky and said storm was stated by the Fright Knight to eventually cover the Earth.
Fright Knight: And once this ecto storm touches every corner of this globe, all these transformations will be permanent, and this shall be my new domain!
Fright Knight: Listen to the sound of your doom! Soon my storm shall consume this planet, the world will be forever transformed, and no one can stop me.
Creating a planetary storm is Low 6-B but the storm wasn't gonna do it in a matter of moments though, it was spreading slowly. Given it's over time and nothing implies the sword can hit with that amount of force, we can't scale this feat to the Crown of Fire and Ring of Rage despite them being the most powerful objects in the verse because while they both are ectoplasmic objects, the Soul Shredder's ectoplasmic storm is overtime and environmental destruction thus cannot be scaled.
Vortex's Planetary Storm
Vortex also created a planetary storm which is Low 6-B but it pretty much shares the same problem as the Soul Shredder's feat. During the episode "Torrent of Terror", Vortex created a planetary storm but it was over a short time. After he left Amity Park, the characters watch the weather news and it's stated the storm covered the globe...
"Severe weather conditions with faces are now in effect on all four corners of the globe. Our accu-matronic 4000 rader indicates another major storm front rapidly approaching Venice Italy."
So Vortex did create a planetary storm but he didn't make one large storm, he created multiple storms with various effects across parts of the Earth with his last stop being Italy. People even comment on this later in the episode stating...
Tucker: I don't think we'll be able to stop him, the weather is catastrophic all over the world!
Vortex: I have succeeded in disrupting weather patterns all over the globe. I am the perfect storm!
Vortex: What!, surely your mistaken. My power, reaches the ends of the Earth.
So yeah, Vortex can create a planetary storm but he does so over time by disrupting weather patterns on various points around the planetary until he eventually gets the whole planet.
Vortex does have a statement made by the Observants that he's wiped out entire cities...
"For centuries, the prisoner has plagued the planet Earth with horrible and unpredictable meteorological events. Cities have been wiped out, countless lives have been in danger."
However when stating this, it shows that he's causing weather effects in the cities so it's clear he's destroying them over time and not in one attack especially given they are talking about his weather powers.
It seems his weather power is more of a special ability that he can't channel into a single attack given the way his powers work and thus should be treated as Environmental Destruction and thus unusable for scaling. While he himself is the storm and we directly see his face in the clouds, it containing his essence doesn't mean he can add it into one attack. It's similar to how Danny's Ghostly Wail doesn't scale to his natural statistics despite being made from his ectoplasmic energy.
Dorathea's Feat
Dorathea's Fire Breath
This casual High 7-A feat is done by dragon Dorathea, is used as supporting evidence for characters being 6-C. However, this feat cannot apply to the characters statistics because it's a possible form of Weather Manipulation.
This was actually brought up before but not really debated but if you look at the feat, Dorathea breaths fire and hits the cloud formation and after a few seconds, the clouds start to split. It's possible this wasn't sheer force from her fire breath given the time it takes for the clouds to actually start to split.
However the main problem is now that the Tier 6 feats no longer apply to the stronger characters, Dorathea's feat has become an outlier. It's a casual feat that even characters far stronger than her haven't displayed and the characters comparable to her only have tier 8 feats at most which is obviously far lower than High 7-A. So either this is weather manipulation feat that doesn't scale to her normal statistics or It's just an outlier.
New Scaling
So apparently the two pervious 8-A calcs for Danny's meat crater and his ghost ray aren't usable because despite seemingly being vaporization, there isn't enough evidence that suggests full on vaporization for sure. One of our calc members explained this to me.
So I'm tired of asking the calc members who created the calcs to constantly revise them since the blogs previous comments that agree with the results are from like 2 years ago. With that stated, I'm gonna post the two feats that need to be calculated using "pulverization" not vaporization and must use soil instead of rock due to all the feats destroying dirt.
1. Danny creates a massive crater (Here is the original calc that uses vaporization)
This feat needs to be recalculated using pulverization of soil, not vaporization.
2. Danny blasts a golf course using his ghost ray (Here is the original calc that uses vaporization)
This feat needs to be recalculated using pulverization of soil, not vaporization.
For the people who attempt these calcs, Soil is comprised of 45% rock, 25% water, 25% air, and 5% organic materials.
I'd rather completely new calcs be made for the meat crater and ghost ray since the comments in the blogs are referring to the older method and it would be confusing when people see members agreeing with different results in the same blog.
Edit: Seems vaporization is preferred so the 8-A versions of Danny Phantom's two feats will be used.
Environmental Destruction
So I was discussing the of the feats off site and apparently the current one's we use aren't usable for scaling the characters reliable.
This is due to Environmental Destruction which makes it so we can't simply just scale things like storm feats, to characters standard statistics such as normal Attack Potency and Striking Strength without sufficient evidence it scales that way.
I decided to go over the current feats again to see if they could scale to the characters statistics all around and sadly, they don't.
Soul Shredder's Planetary Storm
This feat is already treated as environmental destruction but still was used as supporting evidence for Low 6-B scaling. In the episode "Fright Night", the Fright Knight's sword, the Soul Shredder created an ecto storm in the sky and said storm was stated by the Fright Knight to eventually cover the Earth.
Fright Knight: And once this ecto storm touches every corner of this globe, all these transformations will be permanent, and this shall be my new domain!
Fright Knight: Listen to the sound of your doom! Soon my storm shall consume this planet, the world will be forever transformed, and no one can stop me.
Creating a planetary storm is Low 6-B but the storm wasn't gonna do it in a matter of moments though, it was spreading slowly. Given it's over time and nothing implies the sword can hit with that amount of force, we can't scale this feat to the Crown of Fire and Ring of Rage despite them being the most powerful objects in the verse because while they both are ectoplasmic objects, the Soul Shredder's ectoplasmic storm is overtime and environmental destruction thus cannot be scaled.
Vortex's Planetary Storm
Vortex also created a planetary storm which is Low 6-B but it pretty much shares the same problem as the Soul Shredder's feat. During the episode "Torrent of Terror", Vortex created a planetary storm but it was over a short time. After he left Amity Park, the characters watch the weather news and it's stated the storm covered the globe...
"Severe weather conditions with faces are now in effect on all four corners of the globe. Our accu-matronic 4000 rader indicates another major storm front rapidly approaching Venice Italy."
So Vortex did create a planetary storm but he didn't make one large storm, he created multiple storms with various effects across parts of the Earth with his last stop being Italy. People even comment on this later in the episode stating...
Tucker: I don't think we'll be able to stop him, the weather is catastrophic all over the world!
Vortex: I have succeeded in disrupting weather patterns all over the globe. I am the perfect storm!
Vortex: What!, surely your mistaken. My power, reaches the ends of the Earth.
So yeah, Vortex can create a planetary storm but he does so over time by disrupting weather patterns on various points around the planetary until he eventually gets the whole planet.
Vortex does have a statement made by the Observants that he's wiped out entire cities...
"For centuries, the prisoner has plagued the planet Earth with horrible and unpredictable meteorological events. Cities have been wiped out, countless lives have been in danger."
However when stating this, it shows that he's causing weather effects in the cities so it's clear he's destroying them over time and not in one attack especially given they are talking about his weather powers.
It seems his weather power is more of a special ability that he can't channel into a single attack given the way his powers work and thus should be treated as Environmental Destruction and thus unusable for scaling. While he himself is the storm and we directly see his face in the clouds, it containing his essence doesn't mean he can add it into one attack. It's similar to how Danny's Ghostly Wail doesn't scale to his natural statistics despite being made from his ectoplasmic energy.
Dorathea's Feat
Dorathea's Fire Breath
This casual High 7-A feat is done by dragon Dorathea, is used as supporting evidence for characters being 6-C. However, this feat cannot apply to the characters statistics because it's a possible form of Weather Manipulation.
This was actually brought up before but not really debated but if you look at the feat, Dorathea breaths fire and hits the cloud formation and after a few seconds, the clouds start to split. It's possible this wasn't sheer force from her fire breath given the time it takes for the clouds to actually start to split.
However the main problem is now that the Tier 6 feats no longer apply to the stronger characters, Dorathea's feat has become an outlier. It's a casual feat that even characters far stronger than her haven't displayed and the characters comparable to her only have tier 8 feats at most which is obviously far lower than High 7-A. So either this is weather manipulation feat that doesn't scale to her normal statistics or It's just an outlier.
New Scaling
So apparently the two pervious 8-A calcs for Danny's meat crater and his ghost ray aren't usable because despite seemingly being vaporization, there isn't enough evidence that suggests full on vaporization for sure. One of our calc members explained this to me.
So I'm tired of asking the calc members who created the calcs to constantly revise them since the blogs previous comments that agree with the results are from like 2 years ago. With that stated, I'm gonna post the two feats that need to be calculated using "pulverization" not vaporization and must use soil instead of rock due to all the feats destroying dirt.
1. Danny creates a massive crater (Here is the original calc that uses vaporization)
This feat needs to be recalculated using pulverization of soil, not vaporization.
2. Danny blasts a golf course using his ghost ray (Here is the original calc that uses vaporization)
This feat needs to be recalculated using pulverization of soil, not vaporization.
For the people who attempt these calcs, Soil is comprised of 45% rock, 25% water, 25% air, and 5% organic materials.
I'd rather completely new calcs be made for the meat crater and ghost ray since the comments in the blogs are referring to the older method and it would be confusing when people see members agreeing with different results in the same blog.
Edit: Seems vaporization is preferred so the 8-A versions of Danny Phantom's two feats will be used.
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