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Vlad Plasmius Attack Potency Revision (Solid Low 6-B)

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Vlad should be straight up Low 6-B/Small Country level.

Vortex is 3.92256214148 Teratons for his planetary storm feat[/URL] and can withstand his own attacks. Vlad did visible harm to Vortex with his attack, unlike Danny who couldn't even scratch Vortex.

Vlad has no anti-feats either as he regularly stomps Danny with no effort throughout the series. So yeah, Vlad should just back scale from Vortex due to legitimately harming him and surviving one of his attacks albeit with some injuries.

His new ap and dura rating would look like this...

Tier: Low 6-B

Attack Potency: Small Country level (Far superior to Danny Phantom and has casually defeated him on a regular basis, he was visibly capable of harming Vortex with his attack)

Durability: Small Country level (Can easily take attacks from Danny Phantom with no visible injuries and was shown capable of surviving an attack from Vortex although was visibly injured)
 
Eh I kinda don't agree with that because that would make Vlad nearly x100 stronger than Danny and while he is superior to him is not to THAT degree, I remember there were times Danny gave him a fight.
 
Eh I kinda don't agree with that because that would make Vlad nearly x100 stronger than Danny and while he is superior to him is not to THAT degree, I remember there were times Danny gave him a fight.
Agreed. I remember a few times where Danny legitimately beat the hell out of him.
 
Also if he was that strong he wouldn't gotten defeated by Pariah so easily.
 
Eh I kinda don't agree with that because that would make Vlad nearly x100 stronger than Danny and while he is superior to him is not to THAT degree, I remember there were times Danny gave him a fight.
Agreed. I remember a few times where Danny legitimately beat the hell out of him.
Here's the literal history of their confrontations.

Season 1, Episode 7 "Bitter Reunions"

This was the first Danny and Vlad "fought" and Vlad stomped him effortlessly.

Danny then tries to punch Vlad but said punch is stopped by Vlad without effort and Danny gets thrown into a wall and got dazed. Danny then states "Wow, fast. Alright, better stop fooling around" and then charges but Vlad just reachs out and grabs his throat, stopping Danny cold.

After some more talking, Vlad blasts Danny, then blocks all of Danny's energy attacks with an ecto shield, then proceeds to blast his with several duplicates causing serious damage and then beats Danny into unconsciousness with ease.

They then fight one last time, Vlad easily dodges Danny's attack, blocks and absorbs his ghost ray and then Ghost Assault Vehicle takes him down.

So even when Danny stated he wasn't gonna fool around anymore, Vlad still kicked his ass.

Season 1, Episode 17 "Maternal Insticts"

This is the second "fight" Danny and Vlad had.

Vlad blasts Danny with a single energy beam sending him into a wall and visibly damaging him.

Later Danny tricks Vlad and puts the Specter Deflector on him which greatly weakness him. Danny even comments and states it's now a "fair fight", however despite this, Vlad was still capable of reacting to Danny and could harm him with his attacks.

Vlad comments that he's still more powerful than Danny but upon trying to duplicate himself, the Specter Deflector screws with his powers and messes with technique. Danny then beats up Vlad who conceded but still wasn't beaten to the point were he was knocked out of ghost form or had any visible injuries.

Season 1, Episode 19 "The Million Dollar Ghost"

This is the third and final "fight" Danny and Vlad have in season 1.

Vlad surprised Danny, chocks him and then throws him which briefly dazed him. Danny charges Vlad but the later creates a shield and Danny runs right into it, then Vlad creates a construct and knocks Danny away and again, he gets briefly dazed.

Finally, Danny charges Vlad and dodges two ghost rays from the later but upon reaching Vlad and attempting to punch him, Vlad grabs Danny's arm with no difficulty the shocks him while stating "Oh please Daniel, must I actually defeat you with one hand tied behind my back? Before you realized, your outmatched". Danny was about to pass out before Vlad stopped him from changing back then threw him away.

Season 2, Episode 4 - 5 "Reign Storm"

This is the first time, Danny and Vlad "fight" in season 2.

Vlad shows up at Danny's school, Danny blasts Vlad with his ghost ray out of the school, the two land outside, Danny charges Vlad and once again to no one's surprise, Vlad grabs Danny by the throat and stops him cold.

Vlad then states "Calm down Daniel, I didn't come here to fight you, I have more important things to worry about."

Later in the episode the two have a discussion and Vlad admits that he almost "doesn't consider Danny a threat". This angers Danny and his blasts human Vlad with a ghost ray, then Danny transformed and punched human Vlad and sent him several stories into the air and slamming him into a billboard. However this does no damage to Vlad and he actually has a smile on his face...

Danny tackles Vlad to the ground, the later is still smiling, they stand up, Vlad back hands Danny and that ends the "fight".

Season 2, Episode 11 "Secret Weapons"

This was the next encounter Vlad and Danny have.

After Ecto-Skeleton Jazz fake fights Danny, Jazz surprises Vlad and blasts him into the stadium stands yet despite being 100x more powerful than her base which is already comparable to 6-C characters (which would make her Low 6-B), she caused no visible damage and only irritated him.

Now it's not stated she was going all out but she couldn't even damage him and he was in human form!. Danny then appears below him and blasts him in the face with a ghost ray which sends him into the air then down to the ground and the only thing Vlad does is hold his head in irritation but recovers in seconds and received no visible damage...

Season 2, Episode 17 "Kindred Spirits"

This is their third and final encounter in season 2.

Vlad blasts Danny into the ground, the two engage in close combat with Danny dodging three of Vlad's punches but Vlad lands his final punch which sends Danny flying. They then enter a beam collision and to no surprise, Vlad's winning, Danny is visibly seen struggling and even calls out to Dani for help.

Later in the episode, both Danny and Dani hit Vlad with a ghost ray at the same time and seemingly knock him unconscious but in a few seconds he gets back up with no visible injuries. Danny then uses the Ghostly Wail and knocks him down but he gets back up in a few seconds...

It takes them putting the Specter Deflector on him and the Dani could knock him out.

Season 3, Episode 1 "Eye for an Eye"

This is their first "fight" in season 3.

Danny actually starts beating Vlad up and manages to dodge his attacks. Danny even comments about Vlad "losing his edge" but this is all just for show...

Vlad states "Fool, do you really think I'm this weak? I'm more powerful then you'll ever know and even now my power increases, look!"

The screen then moves over to show that Vlad duplicated himself over a dozen freaking times!. Danny then tries to stop the duplicates from overshadowing the people but Vlad flies over and hits him once which knocks him away and caused him pain.

So even after Vlad weakend himself to a massive degree, he was still playing with Danny and the later couldn't even do visible damage.

Later in the episode, Danny fights a duplicate of Vlad and said duplicate states "I'm merely a single duplication and still far more powerful than you!". He then blasts Danny into a wall the proceeds to beat Danny up and for the hundredth time, grab him by the throat and chock him. Danny couldn't even break free from the duplicates grip.

Season 3, Episode 2 "Infinite Realms"

This is their second encounter in season 3.

Danny actually fights Vlad evenly up until the end were Vlad fires several blasts and one hits Danny, causing him pain.

This was the only time they had an even fight yet there is no evidence Vlad was going all out especially given their previous encounters and what happens in their next encounter.

Season 3, Episode 11 "D-Stabilized"

This is their third encounter in season 3.

A duplicate of Vlad hits Danny with a single ghost ray and knocks him unconscious...

That's literally it, Danny gets one hit k.o by a duplicate of Vlad which is weaker than the original which is backed up by the previous time a single duplicate beat Danny easily.

Season 3, Episode 12 - 13 "Phantom Planet"

This is their final "fight" in the series.

Danny dodges several ghost rays from Vlad, Vlad then deflects a ghost ray from Danny but it hit something next to him which stunned him long enough for Danny to freeze him, steal the infi-map, the retreat.

Vlad then breaks free from the ice and chases them but after accidentally hitting his satellite, he stops chasing them and that ends the battles between the two.

Danny didn't even beat Vlad, the fight didn't finish because Danny ran away.

Conclusion

Vlad stomps Danny and the later is nowhere near the other in terms of power.

I don't know were people get this vague idea that Danny could fight Vlad or even harm him but it's the biggest lie about the characters I've ever seen. Vlad casually stomped Danny throughout the entire series to such a degree he comments how easy it is and Danny has never visibly harmed him without aid.

Even Vlad's duplicates are stated to be far stronger than Danny despite being weaker than the real Vlad. We've seen these duplicates casually destroy Danny in combat and even knock him unconscious with a single attack. The stomp is so bad, Vlad duplicated himself over a dozen times and made Danny think he was weak and Danny still couldn't do "visible" harm and said weakened Vlad could still do damage to Danny.

Vlad's always been in a different league than Danny. Danny had to use the Specter Deflector to weaken Vlad and only then did Danny consider it a "fair fight" and even then Vlad was still comparable to Danny in some regard. He's stated he really doesn't consider Danny a threat and even in human form Danny's blows do nothing to him.

So I ask, when throughout the entire series is Danny "consistently" shown capable of fighting Vlad and as some people say "beating the heck out of him" in a fair fight? I'll make it easy for you and tell you that he can't. If Vlad truly wanted Danny dead, he could kill him in one shot. We have direct statement from Vlad himself that he's far more powerful than even Danny knows and given what we've seen, he's not lying. So until you can prove Danny is comparable to Vlad definitively, nothing suggests he can't be around 100x more powerful than Danny.

Too big of a relative increase for only one feat.
This isn't an argument because Vlad has no anti-feats and he stomps every other 6-C character in the verse via showings since everyone is comparable to Danny and Vlad effortlessly stomps Danny. Harming Vortex isn't an outlier for Vlad, it simply help proves he's far above the other characters that he's shown capable of stomping with weaker versions of himself. Vlad even states he's far stronger than we know so there isn't a problem here.
Also if he was that strong he wouldn't gotten defeated by Pariah so easily.
Pariah being able to one shot Vlad doesn't mean anything since base Pariah Dark is far more powerful than Vortex. It's literally stated that base Pariah Dark was so powerful that "only he" could control the power from both the crown and ring.

So this argument that Vlad cannot be Low 6-B because he was stomped by Pariah Dark who's far stronger than Vortex doesn't work.
 
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Here's the literal history of their confrontations.

Season 1, Episode 7 "Bitter Reunions"

This was the first Danny and Vlad "fought" and Vlad stomped him effortlessly.

Danny then tries to punch Vlad but said punch is stopped by Vlad without effort and Danny gets thrown into a wall and got dazed. Danny then states "Wow, fast. Alright, better stop fooling around" and then charges but Vlad just reachs out and grabs his throat, stopping Danny cold.

After some more talking, Vlad blasts Danny, then blocks all of Danny's energy attacks with an ecto shield, then proceeds to blast his with several duplicates causing serious damage and then beats Danny into unconsciousness with ease.

They then fight one last time, Vlad easily dodges Danny's attack, blocks and absorbs his ghost ray and then Ghost Assault Vehicle takes him down.

So even when Danny stated he wasn't gonna fool around anymore, Vlad still kicked his ass.

Season 1, Episode 17 "Maternal Insticts"

This is the second "fight" Danny and Vlad had.

Vlad blasts Danny with a single energy beam sending him into a wall and visibly damaging him.

Later Danny tricks Vlad and puts the Specter Deflector on him which greatly weakness him. Danny even comments and states it's now a "fair fight", however despite this, Vlad was still capable of reacting to Danny and could harm him with his attacks.

Vlad comments that he's still more powerful than Danny but upon trying to duplicate himself, the Specter Deflector screws with his powers and messes with technique. Danny then beats up Vlad who conceded but still wasn't beaten to the point were he was knocked out of ghost form or had any visible injuries.

Season 1, Episode 19 "The Million Dollar Ghost"

This is the third and final "fight" Danny and Vlad have in season 1.

Vlad surprised Danny, chocks him and then throws him which briefly dazed him. Danny charges Vlad but the later creates a shield and Danny runs right into it, then Vlad creates a construct and knocks Danny away and again, he gets briefly dazed.

Finally, Danny charges Vlad and dodges two ghost rays from the later but upon reaching Vlad and attempting to punch him, Vlad grabs Danny's arm with no difficulty the shocks him while stating "Oh please Daniel, must I actually defeat you with one hand tied behind my back? Before you realized, your outmatched". Danny was about to pass out before Vlad stopped him from changing back then threw him away.

Season 2, Episode 4 - 5 "Reign Storm"

This is the first time, Danny and Vlad "fight" in season 2.

Vlad shows up at Danny's school, Danny blasts Vlad with his ghost ray out of the school, the two land outside, Danny charges Vlad and once again to no one's surprise, Vlad grabs Danny by the throat and stops him cold.

Vlad then states "Calm down Daniel, I didn't come here to fight you, I have more important things to worry about."

Later in the episode the two have a discussion and Vlad admits that he almost "doesn't consider Danny a threat". This angers Danny and his blasts human Vlad with a ghost ray, then Danny transformed and punched human Vlad and sent him several stories into the air and slamming him into a billboard. However this does no damage to Vlad and he actually has a smile on his face...

Danny tackles Vlad to the ground, the later is still smiling, they stand up, Vlad back hands Danny and that ends the "fight".

Season 2, Episode 11 "Secret Weapons"

This was the next encounter Vlad and Danny have.

After Ecto-Skeleton Jazz fake fights Danny, Jazz surprises Vlad and blasts him into the stadium stands yet despite being 100x more powerful than her base which is already comparable to 6-C characters (which would make her Low 6-B), she caused no visible damage and only irritated him.

Now it's not stated she was going all out but she couldn't even damage him and he was in human form!. Danny then appears below him and blasts him in the face with a ghost ray which sends him into the air then down to the ground and the only thing Vlad does is hold his head in irritation but recovers in seconds and received no visible damage...

Season 2, Episode 17 "Kindred Spirits"

This is their third and final encounter in season 2.

Vlad blasts Danny into the ground, the two engage in close combat with Danny dodging three of Vlad's punches but Vlad lands his final punch which sends Danny flying. They then enter a beam collision and to no surprise, Vlad's winning, Danny is visibly seen struggling and even calls out to Dani for help.

Later in the episode, both Danny and Dani hit Vlad with a ghost ray at the same time and seemingly knock him unconscious but in a few seconds he gets back up with no visible injuries. Danny then uses the Ghostly Wail and knocks him down but he gets back up in a few seconds...

It takes them putting the Specter Deflector on him and the Dani could knock him out.

Season 3, Episode 1 "Eye for an Eye"

This is their first "fight" in season 3.

Danny actually starts beating Vlad up and manages to dodge his attacks. Danny even comments about Vlad "losing his edge" but this is all just for show...

Vlad states "Fool, do you really think I'm this weak? I'm more powerful then you'll ever know and even now my power increases, look!"

The screen then moves over to show that Vlad duplicated himself over a dozen freaking times!. Danny then tries to stop the duplicates from overshadowing the people but Vlad flies over and hits him once which knocks him away and caused him pain.

So even after Vlad weakend himself to a massive degree, he was still playing with Danny and the later couldn't even do visible damage.

Later in the episode, Danny fights a duplicate of Vlad and said duplicate states "I'm merely a single duplication and still far more powerful than you!". He then blasts Danny into a wall the proceeds to beat Danny up and for the hundredth time, grab him by the throat and chock him. Danny couldn't even break free from the duplicates grip.

Season 3, Episode 2 "Infinite Realms"

This is their second encounter in season 3.

Danny actually fights Vlad evenly up until the end were Vlad fires several blasts and one hits Danny, causing him pain.

This was the only time they had an even fight yet there is no evidence Vlad was going all out especially given their previous encounters and what happens in their next encounter.

Season 3, Episode 11 "D-Stabilized"

This is their third encounter in season 3.

A duplicate of Vlad hits Danny with a single ghost ray and knocks him unconscious...

That's literally it, Danny gets one hit k.o by a duplicate of Vlad which is weaker than the original which is backed up by the previous time a single duplicate beat Danny easily.

Season 3, Episode 12 - 13 "Phantom Planet"

This is their final "fight" in the series.

Danny dodges several ghost rays from Vlad, Vlad then deflects a ghost ray from Danny but it hit something next to him which stunned him long enough for Danny to freeze him, steal the infi-map, the retreat.

Vlad then breaks free from the ice and chases them but after accidentally hitting his satellite, he stops chasing them and that ends the battles between the two.

Danny didn't even beat Vlad, the fight didn't finish because Danny ran away.

Conclusion

Vlad stomps Danny and the later is nowhere near the other in terms of power.

I don't know were people get this vague idea that Danny could fight Vlad or even harm him but it's the biggest lie about the characters I've ever seen. Vlad casually stomped Danny throughout the entire series to such a degree he comments how easy it is and Danny has never visibly harmed him without aid.

Even Vlad's duplicates are stated to be far stronger than Danny despite being weaker than the real Vlad. We've seen these duplicates casually destroy Danny in combat and even knock him unconscious with a single attack. The stomp is so bad, Vlad duplicated himself over a dozen times and made Danny think he was weak and Danny still couldn't do "visible" harm and said weakened Vlad could still do damage to Danny.

Vlad's always been in a different league than Danny. Danny had to use the Specter Deflector to weaken Vlad and only then did Danny consider it a "fair fight" and even then Vlad was still comparable to Danny in some regard. He's stated he really doesn't consider Danny a threat and even in human form Danny's blows do nothing to him.

So I ask, when throughout the entire series is Danny "consistently" shown capable of fighting Vlad and as some people say "beating the heck out of him" in a fair fight? I'll make it easy for you and tell you that he can't. If Vlad truly wanted Danny dead, he could kill him in one shot. We have direct statement from Vlad himself that he's far more powerful than even Danny knows and given what we've seen, he's not lying. So until you can prove Danny is comparable to Vlad definitively, nothing suggests he can't be around 100x more powerful than Danny.


This isn't an argument because Vlad has no anti-feats and he stomps every other 6-C character in the verse via showings since everyone is comparable to Danny and Vlad effortlessly stomps Danny. Harming Vortex isn't an outlier for Vlad, it simply help proves he's far above the other characters that he's shown capable of stomping with weaker versions of himself. Vlad even states he's far stronger than we know so there isn't a problem here.

Pariah being able to one shot Vlad doesn't mean anything since base Pariah Dark is far more powerful than Vortex. It's literally stated that base Pariah Dark was so powerful that "only he" could control the power from both the crown and ring.

So this argument that Vlad cannot be Low 6-B because he was stomped by Pariah Dark who's far stronger than Vortex doesn't work.
Well… holy shit I agree seems pretty clear cut.

That was very convincing
 
I probably need to rewatch the episodes but...

Reign Storm

They're shown somewhat even and Human Vlad not taking damage isn't a big deal because both Human and Ghost form should be on the same level (you argued for that remember), even then he was send flying by Human Danny Ecto Blast and even after he knocked Danny away he still got up no worse for the wear.

Also not sure if it counts but earlier on Danny managed to transform and throw an Ecto Blast faster than Vlad could react given his expression.

Kindred Spirits

Vlad wasn't holding back on Danny, he even said "Funny joke around Vlad isn't here anymore" and yet he still had to put effort in the beam struggle, if he was truly that much stronger than Danny his blast would have immediately overpowered his (and maybe i'm remembering wrong but he was gritting his teeth during it).

Him tanking the Ghostly Wail should be an outlier since Danny did far more harm to people way stronger than Vlad (Dan is who i'm referring to), I think I remember you saying a while a go that Danny didn't use the Ghostly Wail full power because he didn't want to kill Vlad.

Eye for an Eye

Just because a duplicate landed one punch doesn't mean much since Danny was surprised and even then he got up like nothing afterwards, plus the fight was cut off so for all we know Danny could still knock him around (even beforehand he wasn't going all out, he was taking the piss out of Vlad).

Not sure if it counts for anything but later one Danny could overshadow a duplicate of Vlad with ease, again not sure if it counts for anything but I think that's still something compared to what happened in the Dan timeline.

Infinite Map and Phantom Planet.

Haven't watch the former but even you admitted that Danny put up a decent fight there, he did the same in Phantom Planet (even before the episode started giving they been chasing Vlad) and he didn't seem to take the fight seriously either.

Not gonna argue anything in Season 1 because yeah, Danny is much weaker than Vlad there.

Just in case I agree Vlad is stronger than Danny, just not to the degree you're implying here.
 
Doesn’t Jack legitimately beat up Vlad singlehandedly in that MDG episode.

He has a better performance than Danny in S1, that feels weird.
 
He was amped by the Ghost Gloves and TBF he was training to hunt Ghost for far longer than Danny
 
I probably need to rewatch the episodes but...

Reign Storm

They're shown somewhat even and Human Vlad not taking damage isn't a big deal because both Human and Ghost form should be on the same level (you argued for that remember), even then he was send flying by Human Danny Ecto Blast and even after he knocked Danny away he still got up no worse for the wear.

Also not sure if it counts but earlier on Danny managed to transform and throw an Ecto Blast faster than Vlad could react given his expression.
I'm mentioning him being in human form because I'm explaining the events accurately and yes, I argued their human forms are comparable to their ghost forms because they have the feats bit that has nothing to do with my argument which is, Danny literally doing no visible damage to Vlad so them being "somewhat even" as you claim is completely false. Also, Danny getting back up means nothing because Vlad's hit was a simple back hand, a casual slap that wasn't meant to do anything unlike Danny who used a ghost ray and physically punched him above the buildings yet Vlad only smiled and wasn't damaged.

You're second point is irrelevant because in the very next scene with the two of them, Danny charges Vlad but before he could even react, Vlad grabbed him right out off the air and stated he wasn't even there to fight him so Vlad wasn't trying and that very scene plus the later outright debunk your claim that they are "somewhat even" .
Kindred Spirits

Vlad wasn't holding back on Danny, he even said "Funny joke around Vlad isn't here anymore" and yet he still had to put effort in the beam struggle, if he was truly that much stronger than Danny his blast would have immediately overpowered his (and maybe i'm remembering wrong but he was gritting his teeth during it).

Him tanking the Ghostly Wail should be an outlier since Danny did far more harm to people way stronger than Vlad (Dan is who i'm referring to), I think I remember you saying a while a go that Danny didn't use the Ghostly Wail full power because he didn't want to kill Vlad.
That statement proves nothing, all it does is show he's not going to bother joking with him and no, nothing showed Vlad "putting effort" into the beam struggle, it only shows Danny struggling so this argument is false. Vlad still easily beat him and given their previous encounters and future encounters, nothing suggests Vlad isn't holding back. Note joking around =/= actually trying.

No, we established Danny can control how much power he puts behind the wail, but he obviously had to put more power that his normal strength otherwise it wouldn't have mattered. I'm not saying Danny put all his power into it, I'm just using it as evidence that supports my valid argument. It doesn't even matter since right before that he took a ghost ray from Danny and Dani and got right back up with no visible injury. So again, nothing suggests Vlad I'm going all out and nothing suggests Danny is comparable to Vlad in any regard.
Eye for an Eye

Just because a duplicate landed one punch doesn't mean much since Danny was surprised and even then he got up like nothing afterwards, plus the fight was cut off so for all we know Danny could still knock him around (even beforehand he wasn't going all out, he was taking the piss out of Vlad).

Not sure if it counts for anything but later one Danny could overshadow a duplicate of Vlad with ease, again not sure if it counts for anything but I think that's still something compared to what happened in the Dan timeline.
Did you literally ignore everything I just said! Vlad duplicated himself over a dozen times and Danny still did no visible damage. He directly states Danny is a fool for thinking he was that weak and states he's far stronger than Danny realizes. How in earth are you gonna try to use the argument that Danny as you claim "beat the piss out of Vlad", when the entire "fight" was with a incredibly weak Vlad who Danny still couldn't damage and the second Vlad hit him he was harmed? And after that, Danny screams in fear as Vlad was coming down on him from above!

Later in the episode a duplicate literally manhandled Danny throughout the entire fight and wasn't even as strong as the real Vlad and Danny is shouting for him to let go because he was to weak. So you're entire argument is debunked as that "fight" only proved Vlad is vastly stronger than Danny and he did no visible damage to the weakened Vlad.

Danny overshadowing the duplicate means absolutely nothing because Possession has nothing to due with power especially since we just saw said duplicate easily beating up Danny.
Infinite Map and Phantom Planet.

Haven't watch the former but even you admitted that Danny put up a decent fight there, he did the same in Phantom Planet (even before the episode started giving they been chasing Vlad) and he didn't seem to take the fight seriously either.
Yeah, Danny put up a good fight but what evidence is there that suggests Vlad was going all out?. Same with Phantom Planet, the fight never finished and Danny always makes jokes against his enemies despite them outright beating him. It's just how his character is written.

Regardless nothing here supports Danny is comparable to Vlad
Not gonna argue anything in Season 1 because yeah, Danny is much weaker than Vlad there.

Just in case I agree Vlad is stronger than Danny, just not to the degree you're implying here.
We don't separate the season keys because the characters aren't that much more powerful from each season, so Vlad remained vastly superior throughout the entire series. Your using minor moments that are contradicted throughout the entire series and even in the exact episodes.

Vlad has be proven capable of stomping Danny with ease consistently and states multiple time throughout the series that he's far stronger than Danny and that he's even more powerful than Danny knows. His duplicates, which are stated to be weaker than the real Vlad, have not only stomped Danny, they've been shown capable of hitting him once and knocking him unconscious!. Danny had to put the Specter Deflector on Vlad and only then did he call it a "fair fight" and Vlad was still capable of fighting him.

Danny hasn't even been capable of doing any visible damage to Vlad throughout the series even when he's weak or a duplicate and the argument that Danny isn't trying to kill Vlad doesn't work because Vlad isn't trying to kill Danny. Vlad legitimately doesn't consider Danny a threat and given what we've seen, he's clearly proven Danny isn't a threat in combat.

I'm not gonna continue debating the topic of Danny vs Vlad as I've said my peace. Everyone can decide what they prefer, I'll add in who agrees and disagrees with the revision.
 
You didn't need to be that aggressive.

Anyways, I don't really care, whatever it ends up as is left to the others
 
You didn't need to be that aggressive.

Anyways, I don't really care, whatever it ends up as is left to the others
I apologize. I didn't mean to be aggressive or sound like an ass, it wasn't my intention. I respect your opinion on the matter and do understand what you're trying to say. Again my apologies.
 
It's ok, I should probably gave them a rewatch instead of arguing from memory.
 
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