Mashle: Magic and Muscles revisions

[Rogue_Forge]

I'll put this simply

Lance is missing his Third Mark key

Dot is missing his Second Mark key

Both of them would scale to at least around Country level from scaling to or above Levis (Once Dot got his Secondth and Lance got his Thirds they could damage the Invariable Railgun) but they still got easily beaten by Doom so they would be below Continent level

Wahlburg directly scales to Innocent Zero who is directly stated to be the only one who can beat Full power Doom (Moon level)

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AND FINNALY

Mash

The guy who literally has an accepted Continent level feat FOR HIS BASE

And is still only Large Country level

(Also he fought on par with Doom and thus would scale)

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Bump

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Bump

 

[Lilybitdun]

Could you include the scaling for Lance's Third Mark key and Dot's Second Mark key?

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Could you include the scaling for Lance's Third Mark key and Dot's Second Mark key?

uuuh....

I don't know what it would be

At least scales to other Country level characters but gets easily folded by Doom

 

[Lilybitdun]

If you're going to propose a key you gotta figure out what the key has and scales to first

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Bump

 

[Lilybitdun]

Bump

If you're going to propose a key you gotta figure out what the key has and scales to first

are you gonna fix this problem

 

[Rogue_Forge]

are you gonna fix this problem

I already did? they should be at least country level, that's the tier they would scale to

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Never cook again without discussing scaling with the Mashle general thread

I'll put this simply

Lance is missing his Third Mark key

Dot is missing his Second Mark key

Both of them would scale to at least around Country level from scaling to or above Levis (Once Dot got his Secondth and Lance got his Thirds they could damage the Invariable Railgun) but they still got easily beaten by Doom so they would be below Continent level

Lance gets to Continental with his Thirds, Summons and Thirds stack leading Lance to go from 78.6 teratons in base, and 7.86 petatons at his strongest.

Dot gets to High 6-A at his peak, because Epidem bodies a Thirds Lance with just his Summons, and Dot annihilates a Thirds Epidem, so that's another 10x amp.

Wahlburg directly scales to Innocent Zero who is directly stated to be the only one who can beat Full power Doom (Moon level)

Wahlberg doesn't directly scale to IZ actually, because we see him get embarrassed in a straight fight. The only reason Wahlberg would scale to moon level values is because his Summons state is enough to make IZ use his own summons in reaction.

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AND FINNALY

Mash

The guy who literally has an accepted Continent level feat FOR HIS BASE

And is still only Large Country level

(Also he fought on par with Doom and thus would scale)

Because the profiles are outdated, no duh. And for the record, with how we currently scale the verse there's planetary arguments to be found. Both through multiplier scaling and planetary statements + God tiers Transcending magic.

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Never cook again without discussing scaling with the Mashle general thread

Lance gets to Continental with his Thirds, Summons and Thirds stack leading Lance to go from 78.6 teratons in base, and 7.86 petatons at his strongest.

Dot gets to High 6-A at his peak, because Epidem bodies a Thirds Lance with just his Summons, and Dot annihilates a Thirds Epidem, so that's another 10x amp.

Wahlberg doesn't directly scale to IZ actually, because we see him get embarrassed in a straight fight. The only reason Wahlberg would scale to moon level values is because his Summons state is enough to make IZ use his own summons in reaction.

Because the profiles are outdated, no duh. And for the record, with how we currently scale the verse there's planetary arguments to be found. Both through multiplier scaling and planetary statements + God tiers Transcending magic.

Oh wow, I guess I didn't notice this when I was reading the manga but I never thought about any of that

Other than the outdated profiles thing (I was the one who put outdated on their profiles)

 

[Rogue_Forge]

I mean, could Wahlberg maybe downscale IZ? like, if his Thirds summon forces IZ to use his thirds summon could you then downscale the rest of his stuff to 10x lower?

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I mean, could Wahlberg maybe downscale IZ? like, if his Thirds summon forces IZ to use his thirds summon could you then downscale the rest of his stuff to 10x lower?

For their summons, yeah, downscaling would be the answer. For Thirds? Timez Thirds is purely ability based, and Space Thirds is.... honestly hell if I know, would there be AP gotten from the creation of that pocket dimension?

 

[Rogue_Forge]

would there be AP gotten from the creation of that pocket dimension?

Uhhh... probably not

While Thirds are accepted as 10x multipliers, Wahlberg's Thirds is purely hax based and should not scale to his AP

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Uhhh... probably not

That's referring to the explosion, which is apart of his spatial erasing kit. The actual creation of that starry pocket dimension isn't accounted for I'm pretty sure.

 

[Arthur_Nando444]

Wahlburg se equipara diretamente a Innocent Zero, que é explicitamente declarado como o único capaz de derrotar Doom em seu poder máximo (nível lunar).

Wahlberg is in no way comparable to Innocent Zero, as he himself declares himself equal to or weaker than Zero's children.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Wahlberg is in no way comparable to Innocent Zero, as he himself declares himself equal to or weaker than Zero's children.

1. This claim was made by a hideously weakened Wahlberg who was missing an arm and had half of his body nearly twice his actual age, basically mummified. We know wizards can lose magic power based on their injures due to examples from the final arc.

2. By all means, this statement is straight up contradicted by the fact that Innocent Zero felt the need to pull out his own summons in response to Wahlberg doing the same. If UWM Mash couldn't do so despite bodying a maximum Doom, then it means Summons Wahlberg should scale above Maximum Freyja Doom.